Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Elizabeth Warren: What Apple Teaches Us About Taxes
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Warren is a hypocrite on the Wall Street thing and her support for Hillary that gets millions from Wall Street. Her business acumen when comes to taxes and business wouldn't fill a thimble. Why does she suppose the big corporations run mostly by liberals move off-shore?
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SPC James Harsh
If you notice my comment, I didn't know this until today, that Warren campaign was backed by Soros directly.
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Great post SPC James Harsh multinational or transnational companies are an issue on several fronts in my opinion. the Senator touches on tax issues, she doesn't discuss is security and foreign influence issues. Take a global company working in some third world country that suddenly finds itself in a pinch because of changes in the local politics. The big companies (Google, Apple, Intel, Shell Oil, etc) have got paid lobbyist to help them in DC. What is the USA's responsibility or obligation to these entities beyond a NEO to get the US Citizens out of a hostile environment?
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SPC James Harsh
There should be an assessment done and accountability from the local Embassy. That is Hillary's forte.
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I never turn my back on someone who is dangerous. This is why I read things attributed to Elizabeth Warren. Yes, she is dangerous because she has no rational concept of economics. She actually believes that a fictional person (as in the legal fiction of a corporation) is the same as a real person. That this "person" is living like Scrooge McDuck, swimming in a vast vault of money. Thus, she chortles at every occasion when a corporation is attacked by the taxman. But, who is really paying those taxes? The corporation's customers. Whose income is being diminished? The shareholder who pays taxes on his earnings. (Yes, governments double dip by taxing "corporate income" and then taxing shareholder income) BTW, many of those shareholders are cash-strapped pensioners and pension accounts. Now, Warren's ignorance would not be dangerous except that she sits in a seat of authority. Every decision emanating from the Senate is colored by it.
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SPC James Harsh
We've already been set back as a country. Wall Street was intended as a way for the common man to purchase stock in a company and that the investment would accrue interest. Things are so damaged now that making money on Wall Street involves devaluation. People like Elizabeth Warren and her stubborn Liberalist Ideals are not even attached to liberty.
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MCPO Roger Collins
SPC James Harsh - Wall Street was very good to me, until the last eight years, now I am just treading water.
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LTJG (Join to see)
Not sure if Elizabeth Warren "actually believes that a fictional person (as in the legal fiction of a corporation) is the same as a real person." In fact, I think she's spoken extensively in opposition to the modern trend towards expanding corporate personhood. If I am mistaken please advise.
Also, with regards to your assertion that corporate taxes are paid by the customer...I contend that the reality is more complex (or at least not directly related). For example, for tax purposes, Apple is headquartered in Ireland with a tax rate lower than the US. However, did prices drop significantly when Apple moved their HQ from the US? Now that Ireland is requesting back taxes be paid, will the prices go up? Are Iphones cheaper in Ireland where the tax is paid, China where the product is assembled, or the US where the product is developed? Will Apple begin to pay the raised tax rate from their record profits (largest in history of world if memory serves) or will they force the customers to foot the bill?
And since the platform is based on Gov't funded technology; may I, as a taxpayer, expect some return on my investment?
Lastly, if higher US tax rates are such a scourge to American business, why do the CEOs remain here despite offshoring the tax liability?
Also, with regards to your assertion that corporate taxes are paid by the customer...I contend that the reality is more complex (or at least not directly related). For example, for tax purposes, Apple is headquartered in Ireland with a tax rate lower than the US. However, did prices drop significantly when Apple moved their HQ from the US? Now that Ireland is requesting back taxes be paid, will the prices go up? Are Iphones cheaper in Ireland where the tax is paid, China where the product is assembled, or the US where the product is developed? Will Apple begin to pay the raised tax rate from their record profits (largest in history of world if memory serves) or will they force the customers to foot the bill?
And since the platform is based on Gov't funded technology; may I, as a taxpayer, expect some return on my investment?
Lastly, if higher US tax rates are such a scourge to American business, why do the CEOs remain here despite offshoring the tax liability?
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CPT Jack Durish
LTJG (Join to see) - It's hard to respond since I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Please explain. Yes, Elizabeth Warren has spoken against treating corporation as "legal persons". And? She obviously doesn't understand the necessity for doing this. Do you?
Every cost of business is borne by the customer. Every cost including taxes. The price of every product or service includes every cost.
What "platform" are you referring to? You want a return on investment? Don't you enjoy some material advantage? Isn't it of value to you?
Lastly, I'm totally confused about your reference to "higher US tax rates"? What would you do differently?
Every cost of business is borne by the customer. Every cost including taxes. The price of every product or service includes every cost.
What "platform" are you referring to? You want a return on investment? Don't you enjoy some material advantage? Isn't it of value to you?
Lastly, I'm totally confused about your reference to "higher US tax rates"? What would you do differently?
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