Posted on Aug 15, 2016
Vets Who Accept Separation Pay Can’t Receive VA Compensation
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Service members who retire must pay back their voluntary or involuntary separation pay SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL. The government can collect back 40% of incoming retirement pay per month until the debt is paid in full.
When I was initial rated as disabled veteran in 2008, the VA took all of my 70% disability pay. I contacted my congressman in 2010 and his office straightened out the matter. The VA has taken out the equivalent of 10% disability pay because that is the amount of VA disability I incurred before I was involuntary separated as an Army Captain in October 1992. I chose to join the USAR and was eventually promoted to LTC. The VA has collected $10,000 and sent it to Army and I still owe about $45,000 or so which they will take out of my retired back at 40% of my retired pay per month until the debt is paid in full.
The law passed in the mid-1990s required service members who retired to pay back the separation pay but not those who didn't retire.
Anybody who does not retire that was involuntarily separated needs to contact their congressman to get their assistance if they are disabled veterans and are losing their disability pay to pay back a debt.
When I went to the pre-retirement briefing in March I learned the breakpoint for retired soldiers who are receiving VA disability compensation is 50%. If you are retired military and have 50% or less disability, the government reduces your taxable military retired pay by the amount of the disability pay. Since disability pay is not taxable you get a little more net pay that you would for just straight military retirement.
If you have higher than 50% disability you get both your retired military pay and your disability income.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. LTC Thomas Tennant MAJ Ken LandgrenCapt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT1stSgt Eugene HarlessSSG Leo Bell SSgt (Join to see) Sgt Joe LaBranche SGT (Join to see) SGT Forrest Stewart SrA Christopher Wright PO3 Steven Sherrill PO1 John Miller Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM SPC Margaret Higgins
When I was initial rated as disabled veteran in 2008, the VA took all of my 70% disability pay. I contacted my congressman in 2010 and his office straightened out the matter. The VA has taken out the equivalent of 10% disability pay because that is the amount of VA disability I incurred before I was involuntary separated as an Army Captain in October 1992. I chose to join the USAR and was eventually promoted to LTC. The VA has collected $10,000 and sent it to Army and I still owe about $45,000 or so which they will take out of my retired back at 40% of my retired pay per month until the debt is paid in full.
The law passed in the mid-1990s required service members who retired to pay back the separation pay but not those who didn't retire.
Anybody who does not retire that was involuntarily separated needs to contact their congressman to get their assistance if they are disabled veterans and are losing their disability pay to pay back a debt.
When I went to the pre-retirement briefing in March I learned the breakpoint for retired soldiers who are receiving VA disability compensation is 50%. If you are retired military and have 50% or less disability, the government reduces your taxable military retired pay by the amount of the disability pay. Since disability pay is not taxable you get a little more net pay that you would for just straight military retirement.
If you have higher than 50% disability you get both your retired military pay and your disability income.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. LTC Thomas Tennant MAJ Ken LandgrenCapt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT1stSgt Eugene HarlessSSG Leo Bell SSgt (Join to see) Sgt Joe LaBranche SGT (Join to see) SGT Forrest Stewart SrA Christopher Wright PO3 Steven Sherrill PO1 John Miller Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM SPC Margaret Higgins
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PO1 John Miller
LTC Stephen F.
I am rated at 60% service-connected disabled, so I get my full disability and pension from the Navy.
I am rated at 60% service-connected disabled, so I get my full disability and pension from the Navy.
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LTC Stephen F.
PO1 John Miller - I am glad to learn that you get your full Navy retirement pension and VA disability income.
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PO1 John Miller
LTC Stephen F.
Although I really do need to file a couple of new claims, and get my existing claims reevaluated!
Although I really do need to file a couple of new claims, and get my existing claims reevaluated!
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The military seems to be the only place where a disabled employee is forced to pay their own disability (under 50%). Or pay back a severance package. This is asinine.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL - Could you imagine the shit storm if Boeing or GM did this to their employees? They'd be evil corporations, profiting off the hard work and injuries of their employees.
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No argument on the odd things the VA considers a disability. I agree diabetes, HBP, etc., are genetic and shouldn't be paid for. There is a ton of fraud and abuse in the system and it could be easily fixed but I believe you missed my point. No where else does anyone pay their own disability. If you worked for a civilian company and were injured on the job they wouldn't be allowed to take your income insurance to pay your worker's compensation. Or your 401K to pay sour SSI.
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Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM
The civilian sector also must repay from social security! We pay for workers compensation from our checks if we use it or not. If we use it WE MUST repay, every penny or no other job.
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If I leave my job before I am vested for retirement or for "the betterment of the company" and I cash out my 401K or receive a severance package from my company, and later start having health issues tied to my last job, and go the SSA to look into SSI disability, they aren't going to demand my 401K or my severance package before they give me disability. Are they? This is what I'm getting from the story. Soldier was involuntarily separated from active duty and given a separations package. He goes to the VA for his service connected rating and they recoup his separations package before they'll give him disability.
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