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Posted on Mar 19, 2015
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Wish was closer ....Id happily give up the time required.
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SCPO Morris Ramsey
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In my day they were called APC’s
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SSG Warren Swan
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The mentality has to change, but it has to be TOP driven. Until the CoS and SMA start bringing the pain down to the lower levels in regards to troop care and accountability, this will continue, and more troops will suffer the consequences. Also knowing the answers to questions upon redeployment screening, doesn't help with identifying those with issues until it's too late. Everyone wants to be in the game; problem is leaders need to ID quickly and substitute those that cannot be in the game, and give them time to heal. How much of this current mentality of "suck it up" is costing troops lives? The Army needs to be hard, but there's a THIN line between HOOAH and Stupidity. Both will get you messed up pretty quick.
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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Troops need to be “bullet proofed” from the chain of command when they report an injury!
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
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One of the advantages (I guess) of being an aviator is I was very obedient to the command, "no self medication", which kept me from overdoing it on anything. And, the fact that aviators get (or use to get) excellent medical care and availability of care providers made it so that not self medicating was not really a problem. This comment is not meant as a brag, I was in the infantry (airborne) for 5 years before I went to flight school and am very familiar with the aches and pains of being a grunt. That's why I went to flight school.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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A concussion is not something you can just shake off. No matter how much you try, when the head is traumatized, the only thing you can do immediately is remove the person from the situation. In combat, when is that possible? Never. So you end up with a soldier who has a headache, nausea, dizziness, and is not in full control of their mental faculties in the fight. Despite best intentions, they are going to be a detriment not only to themselves, but to their team.
There is also a social issue with these things. As MAJ (Join to see) mentioned the mentality of lead by example. Nobody wants to be accused of being cowardly. Nobody wants to appear weak in front of their comrades at arms, or worse still the enemy. The problem is when you have a head trauma, you are weak. Your body is reacting to a trauma, and everything else falls by the wayside. In these situations, the best thing that can be done is to properly evaluate that soldier.
I am glad that this study is being conducted. I hope that it does lead to changes in the way head trauma is diagnosed and treated. I hope that it leads to the saving of lives.
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Sgt Richard Martin
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Great article and I would be interested to see how many former vets can benefit from this research!!!
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SPC David Shaffer
SPC David Shaffer
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Sgt Richard Martin I hope they do as well. I'm very excited that they are finally taking this problem seriously.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I knew of soldier who was given moltrin instead of truly fixing him.
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SFC Armor Crew Member
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You know, I came into the military at a late age. The Drills always said, "DO NOT JUMP OFF THE TANK. Slide down the front of the tank." Yeah yeah yeah....Now, I have named my left knee Snap and my right knee crackle. My back has arthritis and my neck has bulging disks. I have a P2 profile because when I would do situps it sounded like my back was snapping everytime I did one. At first the profile said no running, I made them change it to run at own pace and I could do the 2 mile run. I run the run in about 15 minutes (I have 1842 to complete the run) I usually cannot move real well for about 3 days after. I have a TBI (my leadership never put me in for a PH for), my wife and daughter remind me of things we have done when I tell them "we should go to this place!" "Dad we went there when we first moved here." "Ohh, did we like it?" Yeah we did. There are days I am clear, I remember things, a lot of times they are painful things like in Iraq, then there are some good things like friends or family. My body now has a pin in my thumb where I broke it in two places and torn the ligaments. My leg was broke in OSUT, but I never went to get seen until it was too late and healing and so they gave me a profile and I motrin and I was able to graduate with my class. My aorta was torn in an explosion and it healed, they never found that until I went in for an emergency appendectomy and they did some scan and found the scar tissue. There are parts of me that I have not had checked out that I KNOW are wrong with me.
Would I say that the mindset will hurt me? Yeah, it is going to kill me I know. If it doesn't then I need to ensure that I have it all documented before I retire so my wife and daughter get paid for it when it finally does. When you are older, and trained to "rub dirt in it" or drink water, drive on" or "take motrin" it is hard to remember to get things fixed when the time comes.
It is even HARDER to make sure that your new privates want to get EVERYTHING looked at. I do encourage them to do so though. (Another reason I am so glad to be in recruiting now, no privates). The mindset is just so hard to overcome, I am just so one tracked. Maybe someday I can think normal again.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I knew of a young soldier die because they did not diagnose he needed and appendectomy. They gave him Moltrin and told him to suck it up.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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Edited >1 y ago
CPT Aaron Kletzing -- How you can do your part to save troops’ lives – I didn't save their lives but I made a couple of LTCs go though the concussion testing after they were at an Afghan Police compound that was attacked with a few suicide bombers and a lot of explosives. They didn't want to do it. I think they thought they were to important to the mission. But you could tell by their eyes that they were jacked up. I escorted them to the BAS to get tested. Afterwords they thanked me for making them go. They failed miserably and they thought they were OK. I did this because when I got hit by an IED, no one really did anything for me. I was all jacked up and they made me go out on combat patrols the next day. I had a 1SG who took me aside when I was pushing it to hard right after coming back from a back operation. She told me the Army doesn't care about me (or anyone). There is always someone to replace you, so you have to take care of yourself. I told the two LTCs my little story. That is how I got them to the BAS.
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