Posted on Dec 15, 2019
Would you return, or have you returned, to Viet Nam?
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I wanted no part of returning to Viet Nam. The last time I got wounded I received 30 major wounds (11 gunshot and 19 shrapnel wounds at least as large as the gunshot wounds) and a couple hundred minor wounds. But that wasn’t the bad part. Before the night ended I would up alone, with my weapon and my radio both KIA. What’s worse is the only people who had any idea where I was were all shooting at me. I’ve had better days.
Every night from 1969 through June 18, 2003 I kept having the same recurring dream -- I was a dud for allowing myself to get in that predicament. Oh yeah, I was down to only two bullets left when my M-16 got killed. The recurring dream always ended with Sir Charles walking up to kill me -- their blast from and AK would awaken me. Then I’d have trouble falling back asleep due to fear.
In 2003 my then 32 year old daughter asked me to take her to Viet Nam. Not only “NO” but “Hell NO!” -- except the word “no” is not in my Daddy dictionary. The plan was for me to take her where I got shot the last time for the 34th anniversary of the event. We shared a hotel room in Saigon the night before -- June 19, 2003. There were no bad dreams that night -- I couldn’t sleep. I was afraid I was going to humiliate myself in front of my daughter by crying or freaking out when we got there to confront the monsters in my closet.
When we got to Bunard, there were children playing, oblivious to the horrors of days gone past. Crops growing and even a few permanent structures. The place was beautiful. I still dream about Viet Nam, but they are all joyful dreams. I have never dreamed about the war since. The monsters in my closet were vanquished and replaced with the easygoing lifestyle of present day Viet Nam.
I like the place so much I returned twice in 2006 on leaflet drops (dollar bills) and in 2014 I took my youngest daughter -- then 10 years old.
I’m looking forward to hopefully returning again someday. I love it there. And the attitude of the average Vietnamese citizen on the street? ‘That was then, this is now.’ They are so welcoming; genuinely happy to see you.
One picture is my then 32 year old daughter and me standing where SFC Charles Hinson found me on the morning of June 20, 1969. The other is of my then 10 year-old daughter (pink top and white pants) with some of the local children at Bunard. It is actually my favorite all-time picture of Viet Nam.
Every night from 1969 through June 18, 2003 I kept having the same recurring dream -- I was a dud for allowing myself to get in that predicament. Oh yeah, I was down to only two bullets left when my M-16 got killed. The recurring dream always ended with Sir Charles walking up to kill me -- their blast from and AK would awaken me. Then I’d have trouble falling back asleep due to fear.
In 2003 my then 32 year old daughter asked me to take her to Viet Nam. Not only “NO” but “Hell NO!” -- except the word “no” is not in my Daddy dictionary. The plan was for me to take her where I got shot the last time for the 34th anniversary of the event. We shared a hotel room in Saigon the night before -- June 19, 2003. There were no bad dreams that night -- I couldn’t sleep. I was afraid I was going to humiliate myself in front of my daughter by crying or freaking out when we got there to confront the monsters in my closet.
When we got to Bunard, there were children playing, oblivious to the horrors of days gone past. Crops growing and even a few permanent structures. The place was beautiful. I still dream about Viet Nam, but they are all joyful dreams. I have never dreamed about the war since. The monsters in my closet were vanquished and replaced with the easygoing lifestyle of present day Viet Nam.
I like the place so much I returned twice in 2006 on leaflet drops (dollar bills) and in 2014 I took my youngest daughter -- then 10 years old.
I’m looking forward to hopefully returning again someday. I love it there. And the attitude of the average Vietnamese citizen on the street? ‘That was then, this is now.’ They are so welcoming; genuinely happy to see you.
One picture is my then 32 year old daughter and me standing where SFC Charles Hinson found me on the morning of June 20, 1969. The other is of my then 10 year-old daughter (pink top and white pants) with some of the local children at Bunard. It is actually my favorite all-time picture of Viet Nam.
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Responses: 33
Most of the vets that I have worked with have not gone back. Only a couple said they wished they could.
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SGT Robert Pryor
If they can make it back, I'm sure they'll be glad they did. The current cost for airfare, lodging, ground transportation and meals is about $1,000.00.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
SGT Robert Pryor - many of the ones I am working with are disabled and probably would not be comfortable but I am thinking of asking the next time I see them.
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SGT Robert Pryor
As you might guess, I too am disabled -- rated at the next level above 100% (SMC under section S) but I don't have mobility issues. I am visually and hearing impaired, among a great many other service connected disabilities. If they have question, send me a PM.
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SPC Michael Tierney
I was wounded in December 1968. I was in the Americal Division and our AO was basically south of Da Nang, An Hoa and Hoi An area. We were on a world tour in 2013 that stopped in Da Nang. The hotel on the So China Sea was beautiful. We did a tour on one day that went to these two small towns. They actually had a stop light. Still lots of rice paddies but mostly permanent buildings instead of the bamboo huts I remembered. One thing I saw that i never noticed when we were patrolling was a centuries old temple area. Lots of bomb craters but still some very interesting architecture.
Like any place after 40 or so years, most everything had changed.
When I was in VN, I always thought it was a beautiful place that should have been full of tourists, not soldiers.
Like any place after 40 or so years, most everything had changed.
When I was in VN, I always thought it was a beautiful place that should have been full of tourists, not soldiers.
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Personally have no desire to stand in a rice paddy again. Have much better things to spend time, money or emotions on. If others want to and find it cathartic , then power to them. Welcome home and back from hell Sgt.
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SGT Robert Pryor
The main thing I got from my first trip back was to close that chapter in my life entitled "The Viet Nam War." The next three trips were just plain enjoying life. I love to travel, as do my wife and children.
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SGT Robert Pryor I've Heard a Lot of Stories Like Yours. Truly Wonderful Your Trip of Healing and From what I Understand Vietnam has a Great Tourist Industry both for Returning Vets and Anybody Else that wants to Visit. Officially they May be "Communist" but More Like the Riviera on the South China Sea from what I've heard from Several Veterans. With China Flexing It's Muscle, Vietnam (Both North and South United) is a US Ally.
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SGT Robert Pryor
You are so correct. Once the bad feelings over that conflict of 50 years ago died down, Viet Nam returned to what was a bigger issue to them -- China. Ho Chi Minh has been reported to comment with regards to the French returning following Japan's WWII surrender, "Better to smell French shit for five years than to eat China's shit for 1,000." A lot of Americans don't understand that about the Vietnamese psyche. As long as the Spratly Islands remain in the South China Sea, Viet Nam is going to look to the USA for friendship.
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SGT Robert Pryor Robert, I am glad that returning to Vietnam has helped you find peace and relief from the bad dreams. For me, I have no desire to ever return.
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I will go there at some point to visit my dad’s areas of operation..and to surf Vietnam. This will happen. Can’t wait.
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Sorry to hear that, Robert. Glad to see your still with us though.
My marine dad was wounded three times; however, is now 80 and can’t go back for various other health reasons.
I found going back to Iraq later in life for me, while still on active duty, was a good thing.
Anyways, hope you have a nice holiday.
My marine dad was wounded three times; however, is now 80 and can’t go back for various other health reasons.
I found going back to Iraq later in life for me, while still on active duty, was a good thing.
Anyways, hope you have a nice holiday.
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SGT Robert Pryor
There is a powerful hidden message in your comment for all of us. Don't put things off until later -- it just might wind up being too late. My best to your dad and am glad you got to go back and see a what was hopefully a better Iraq.
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