Maj Private RallyPoint Member 1844328 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2016-08-28T14:31:46-04:00 Maj Private RallyPoint Member 1844328

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2016-08-28T14:31:46-04:00 2016-08-28T14:31:46-04:00 Capt Private RallyPoint Member 1844339

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am long since done serving. But, no the election of the other would not , actually did not, make me quit. Would you quit if you were assigned a commanding officer you did not like?

2016-08-28T14:36:02-04:00 2016-08-28T14:36:02-04:00 Maj Private RallyPoint Member 1844340

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this is an extremely volatile subject matter, and I hope we can discuss this as professionals. I am personally very disappointed with my options this election, and wanted to know if anyone is actually so turned off that they would stop serving entirely. We are obligated by law and regulations to serve somewhat apolitically. We generally cannot choose our leaders, both those serving and those appointed/elected. If you disagree so strongly with our Commander in Chief and where he/she would lead the military, your only honorable solution could (in theory) be to resign because at the end of the day, we have to follow their orders regardless of our personal opinions and politics unless they are outright unlawful orders. So I&#39;m just wondering if anyone actually would do so. No need to specify which candidate(s) you support or oppose. I&#39;d just like to see what your thoughts are on this topic.

2016-08-28T14:37:18-04:00 2016-08-28T14:37:18-04:00 SFC Marcus Belt 1844353

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No...but I'm over 18 years' active Federal service, so I'm not even going to pretend to stand on principle here. The principle that I'm holding onto is that in a year and a half, I get my money.<br /><br />That said, I am a political conservative, have voted Republican in every Federal election since 1990, but find nothing admirable in the person or character of Donald Trump, and while Mrs. Clinton has done some things I admire--taking the heat for Benghazi, for example, when the fact is that embassies and their staffs are the responsibility of the POTUS not SECSTATE--there are still other aspects of her character that I find troubling as well.

2016-08-28T14:48:56-04:00 2016-08-28T14:48:56-04:00 Maj Marty Hogan 1844364

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely not. Have served under 5 and have not agreed with all of them, but I don&#39;t serve the President.

2016-08-28T14:52:50-04:00 2016-08-28T14:52:50-04:00 Capt Tom Brown 1844376

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the President began to establish or implement potentially dangerous policies which were so aberrant war was imminent and I could not honestly support the policies or practices I would not hesitate to get out asap. This is in effect what happened to me 30 yrs ago and I would do it again in a heartbeat. I would not support an invasion of Afgan, Iraq, Syria or any other 4th and 5th rate nation which slaughters their own people with no threat to the US.

2016-08-28T15:02:02-04:00 2016-08-28T15:02:02-04:00 CPT Jack Durish 1844377

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Obviously, this is a hypothetical issue for me. (Look at the photo) In all honesty, I would continue to serve until issued an illegal order.

2016-08-28T15:03:03-04:00 2016-08-28T15:03:03-04:00 SFC Pete Kain 1844403

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yeah right, like the idiots that say they will move to another Country. LMAO<br />However if you feel that strongly....GOOD RIDDENCE.

2016-08-28T15:18:18-04:00 2016-08-28T15:18:18-04:00 SSG Daniel Brewster 1844421

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've always wondered how active duty folks reconcile this in their mind. I served about a million years ago and went in right out of high school. I didn't think much of politics at the time (as in didn't think about the subject at all), although Reagan was in office for the entirety of my AD service. I guess there is a reason we ask young people to fight our wars...<br /><br />Anyway, could I serve today with Obama in the White House? If I were at the onset of my career, would I not re-up? Knowing what I know now, and being somewhat politically aware, I'd like to believe I would put my principles before a job and hang it up. Although I probably wouldn't hang it up if I had 18 years in and he came into office. So... I guess it *is* all about me &amp; my family.<br /><br />The bigger question, at least for those that served many years ago, is would you encourage your children to serve? Boy, that's a great question. I'm very proud of my service &amp; it made me a man. It's a rite of passage every young person should experience, imho. My son is 16 and he attends a boys only military high school and is in JROTC. While we haven't talked a lot about college, I could see a service academy in his future. I grew up solid middle class and my kids would probably describe their upbringing as upper middle class. I've done well and that foundation in the military helped point me in the right direction. Both of my kids will be able to go to college and there won't be a question of "I have to join the army if I want to go to college" (as there was for me). But it's a good grounding, that's for sure. My daughter is a freshman in college. She wants to be a dentist. Serving as a military dentist would be a great way for her to pay for dental school and we have talked about it.<br /><br />So... would I support my kids serving? As a parent, I'd be all apprehensive about it. As a politically aware-being, hell no, I wouldn't support it. Our politicians have been letting down our service members since well before I was born. Having said all of that, my service was the era after Vietnam and I'm sure my family felt the same way as I do today about the shitheels in public office. They let me do my thing. I'd let my kids do their thing too, as it really isn't my choice. But I'd still be all apprehensive about it.

2016-08-28T15:30:28-04:00 2016-08-28T15:30:28-04:00 SN Greg Wright 1844424

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. The oath is to the US and the Constitution. Not the president. Anyone that says yes to this needs to get out now. Right now.

2016-08-28T15:32:16-04:00 2016-08-28T15:32:16-04:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 1844559

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="737314" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/737314-38px-force-support-marine-corps-command-general-staff-college-higher-education">Maj Private RallyPoint Member</a> Sir, Presidents come and go. If you like serving in the Air Force, stay in. If you are ready for a change, get out. Who is the President, should not enter into the equation.

2016-08-28T16:43:42-04:00 2016-08-28T16:43:42-04:00 SGM Steve Wettstein 1844697

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I served for my country not who was POTUS.

2016-08-28T17:40:16-04:00 2016-08-28T17:40:16-04:00 Capt Michael Greene 1844707

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My commitment was to the Constitution, not a POTUS.<br />Makes no sense to quit serving because you disagree with results of a free election.

2016-08-28T17:44:08-04:00 2016-08-28T17:44:08-04:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 1844708

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not unless he or she did something completely unforgivable like the Japanese-American internment.<br /><br />I don't see Clinton doing anything like that, but if a President Trump enacted a complete entry ban on Muslims to the US I would likely resign (and leave the country).

2016-08-28T17:45:03-04:00 2016-08-28T17:45:03-04:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 1844736

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've served under Reagan, both Bushes, Clinton and Obama. I actually found much to like and a little to despise in all of them, but none ever made me consider leaving. Hillary Clinton also will not likely make me consider leaving.<br /><br />Trump, however, has indicated two proposals that I might not leave over, but I would definitely be repulsed enough to refuse to participate. Excluding muslims could, in my mind, lead to interning them the same way we did to Japanese-Americans. I would not participate in that and might consider retiring early. The other is mass-deportation. If Trump ordered the military to round up and deport undocumented immigrants I would likely resign over that, though I wouldn't leave the country, rather I would move to wherever the larges of the detention and deportation centers were and provide legal representations to those rounded up for so long as I was able.

2016-08-28T18:05:04-04:00 2016-08-28T18:05:04-04:00 SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1844793

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm not weak hearted. I will serve my time and pursue for the 25 years that I promised myself I would

2016-08-28T18:35:47-04:00 2016-08-28T18:35:47-04:00 SFC George Smith 1844799

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One of the Reasons I Retired was because of the Double standard and Back stabbing from the Bill Clinton Crowd... and his Supporters in the Military...

2016-08-28T18:38:07-04:00 2016-08-28T18:38:07-04:00 SGT Christopher Clarke 1844846

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If that's a part of the decision making process, those persons are serving for the wrong reason.

2016-08-28T18:52:38-04:00 2016-08-28T18:52:38-04:00 Maj John Bell 1844847

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It was the tipping point when I was already predisposed.

2016-08-28T18:52:51-04:00 2016-08-28T18:52:51-04:00 SGM Mikel Dawson 1844925

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I never quit When Bill Clinton was elected. It's the Nation I serve, not the President.

2016-08-28T19:27:59-04:00 2016-08-28T19:27:59-04:00 COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM 1845037

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A few thoughts:<br />- Short answer. No, I would not quit serving if my POTUS candidate of choice is not elected.<br />- Long answer.<br /> 1. Military members swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution, not POTUS personally.<br /> 2. Military service is an honor and a privilege, not a right. Anyone who does not agree with this is welcome to exit military service.<br /> 3. The military is and, to do its job properly, must be an apolitical organization even if its individual members have private (not public) political opinions.<br /> 4. No political party since the end of WWII has held the office of POTUS for more than 8 years except for one (Republican 1981-1993). This means it is more likely than not that a person who would quit serving if their POTUS candidate was not elected is looking at only an 8 year career tops.

2016-08-28T20:08:56-04:00 2016-08-28T20:08:56-04:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 1845106

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would not, but I would not fault someone who did. That's a hell of a lot more of an honorable choice than remaining in uniform and trash-talking the incumbent.....

2016-08-28T20:36:09-04:00 2016-08-28T20:36:09-04:00 Col Dona Marie Iversen 1845114

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If I was still in, would not get out. What's that military saying "Easier to ask for forgiveness then beg for permission".<br /><br />I had to make a few dicey decisions that was not 'approved' in the AFIs (regs), and had some explaining to do after I made those decisions. Luckily, the 1-4 Stars understood my rationale and I did not get in trouble. Actually, my decisions became a SOP during deployment...WHEW!

2016-08-28T20:39:36-04:00 2016-08-28T20:39:36-04:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 1845168

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. I serve the people of the United States and I will never quit.

2016-08-28T21:01:10-04:00 2016-08-28T21:01:10-04:00 PO2 Kristy Williams 1845256

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, because the president is transient. We'll have another.. But neither of these two are deserving of that office.

2016-08-28T21:51:22-04:00 2016-08-28T21:51:22-04:00 1stSgt Eugene Harless 1845291

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't think anybody can intellegently make a career decision based right after the outcome of an election. <br /> We have a pretty good set of checks and balances as far as a POTUS being able to affect the quality of life of someone serving in the military. <br /> The things that would affect me making a choice to reenlist or get out at EAS would have been cuts in pay or benefits, lack of opportunities to advance , Op-tempo and a massive shift in values.that were contrary to my personal beliefs, none of which ever happened in my career, and arent likely to happen under a single administration.

2016-08-28T22:15:01-04:00 2016-08-28T22:15:01-04:00 CAPT Kevin B. 1845350

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nope. The idiots come and go but the Brotherhood/Sisterhood lives on. The MILs are always great about showing who the real leaders in the room are.

2016-08-28T22:57:43-04:00 2016-08-28T22:57:43-04:00 SCPO Private RallyPoint Member 1845394

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At what point should someone regard an oath more important, or obliging, or valid than lifelong principles, taught since the cradle?

2016-08-28T23:24:14-04:00 2016-08-28T23:24:14-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1845738

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I won't quit, but I may find myself laid off.

2016-08-29T06:35:52-04:00 2016-08-29T06:35:52-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1846824

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes. I've already told my commander, any decisions on reenlisting are going to wait until after this election. I'll serve out my contract, don't get me wrong. I've been deployed three times already; the way I see it, I've done my time. I'm not going to feel bad by walking away before we get dragged into *yet another* senseless war.

2016-08-29T15:29:32-04:00 2016-08-29T15:29:32-04:00 SGT Chris Hill 1851774

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe it's a rather irrational decision of anyone to quit their service due to who is voted as POTUS. It's even more so when you hear/read about those who claim they will leave the United States if Trump is elected. To think that someone will uproot their entire family and leave their jobs, all in response to someone they don't want in office, is evidence of immaturity. <br /><br />You never heard anyone threaten to leave when Obama got in office and re-elected.

2016-08-31T11:23:40-04:00 2016-08-31T11:23:40-04:00 2016-08-28T14:31:46-04:00