Would the Founding Fathers of the United States, framers of the Constitution, be proud I study Human Rights issues? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/would-the-founding-fathers-of-the-united-states-framers-of-the-constitution-be-proud-i-study-human-rights-issues <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For one how can someone make a whole enlistment package that will not be recognized by the VA ? There are many ways to injure someone on accident or otherwise. There are many ways to flog someone. Give them an enlistment that will buden them and not even be recognized as a veteran for veteran purposes, and only find that out after you are in the streets homeless getting abused sexually and financially by your landlord. But the Navy taught me one one thing never to give up, and John Paul Jones was a Revolutionary War hero known as the father of ... to surrender, he famously responded: “I have not yet begun to fight!” <br /><br />All I fight to do is have some form of dignity.<br />I honor my other vets service members for many reasons. I would say we need to be ready. <br /><br /><br />Flogging was used after the Constitution was signed well into the 1900s as the form of punishment on the ship! Navy Historical Society has a great article on it.<br />My master chief when i was not feeling well at sea basically flogged me without a cat o 9 tails and the affects were similar and my Navy Army transfer was attempted. My dreams of being an officer, my meritirious bootcmap achievment paygrade advancement were all sort of in the past by then only 22, having midlife crisis having to attempt a Navy Army Transfer as a safety valve.<br /><br />There have been many civil rights human rights battles historically and ongoing such as females having equal rights and not being abused in society, battles such as woman&#39;s suffrage and integration and respect into the military.<br /><br />I sort of lived and found another place where you could actually serve on guided missile frigates for years in an enlistment that would not recognized by the VA. <br /><br />Yes serving on a FFG for 5 years part time is not something you want to happen to you ripped on and off and have a 24/7 commitment for readiness otherwise, no health care off the ship, and the pay is not going to pay for rent that month or food for that matter. Yes a reserve enlistment is a 8yr obligation. For a 18 year old that could be a way to serve and go to college at the same time, and get a degree by 22 and commission! What a good idea! But derails that dream depending on many factors of unit assignment in between that time, and what actually happens on duty. But you need all this special paper work and many commands to sign off on it for a simple stress injury that is easily overlooked on a guided missle frigate that will not get better but much worse never given medical attention because. So I hope someone changes this. Maybe it has changed already. But I at least put a few articles I found that go over a few other human rights issues in the military. <br /><br />This topic has been studied by Congress. How can someone swear an oath to defend the Constitution and get less rights then a regular citizen? How can a contract signed by a 18 year old, not even be recognized?<br /><br /><br />CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF<br />MILITARY PERSONNEL<br />COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY<br />UNITED STATES SENATE<br />88th Congress, 1st Session<br /><br />PREFACE<br /><br />No persons should be more entitled to protection of their constitutional rights than the servicemen engaged in protecting the sovereignty of the United States. Appropriately, the Subcommittee on Consti- tutional Rights has been concerned since its formation with the rights of military personnel and has made several studies in that connection.<br /><br /><br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html">https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html</a><br /><br />In the public mind, especially in the North, the practice of flogging was often associated with the treatment of convicts and slaves, and it was believed to be contrary to the democratic spirit of the times and the ideals of the United States. Support for this view came from William McNally, who claimed to be a former sailor. In 1839 he published a work on Evil Island Abuses in the Naval and Merchant Service in which he argued that sailors were treated worse than slaves. He cited instances where more than the legal number of lashes were inflicted in floggings. He also argued that flogging kept Native American men from joining the Navy. This, in turn, led to a shortage of manpower in the Navy and merchant service which led both to resort to using foreign-born sailors.<br /><br /> In the 1840&#39;s a number of civilian groups began to petition Congress to abolish flogging.<br />One reflection of this movement came in 1847 when John P. Hale of New Hampshire was elected to the Senate by an anti-slavery party. Earlier Hale had served as a Democratic Representative from New Hampshire, and in 1844 and 1845 he introduced amendments to bills that would abolish flogging in the Navy. These efforts were unsuccessful. Following his return to Washington he announced to the Senate his intention to abolish flogging. Between December1849 and June 1850 the Senate received 271 petitions from the citizens of various states urging the end of flogging. In 1850the Secretary of the Navy sent an inquiry to a number of naval officers asking for their opinions on whether flogging and grog could be eliminated without damage to the Navy. Of the 84 replies received by the secretary, only seven officers thought that flogging should be discontinued. Therefore when Senator Hale succeeded in getting a law passed in September 1850 abolishing flogging in the Navy and merchant marine, there were a number of naval officers who thought that the legislation was misguided.<br />Meanwhile in March 1850 Herman Melville&#39;s novel, White-Jacket, or The World in a Man-of-War was published. It contained a chapter on flogging and others on its evil effects and unlawful use. He called for its abolition. Some naval officers took exception to Melville&#39;s remarks and wrote rebuttals, a few of which were published in newspapers or pamphlets.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />2015 US Department of Veteran Affairs<br />Dear Aaron Hassay<br />We Regret to inform you that after careful review of your records by our Enrollment and Eligibility staff, we are proposing to terminate your VA health care benefits. We have made an initial determination that you rae ineligible for VA health care for the following reason:<br />Minimum Active Duty Service Requirements-A person who originally enlisted in a regular component of the Armed Forces after September 7, 1980, or who entered active dut4y after October 16, 1981, and who is discharged or released from a period of active duty before completing the shorter of 24 months of continuous active duty, or the full period for which<br />The individual was called or ordered to active duty is not eligible for VA health care by reason of such period of active duty. National Guard and reserve members with active duty for training purposes only do not meet this basic eligibility requirement unless the individual concerned was disabled in the line of duty. According to our records you were called Active Duty for Training only.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />38 USC 5303A<br />TITLE 38 - VETERANS BENEFITS<br />§ 5303A. Minimum active-duty service requirement<br />§ 5303A. Minimum active-duty service requirement<br />(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, any requirements for eligibility for or entitlement to<br />any benefit under this title or any other law administered by the Secretary that are based on the length<br />of active duty served by a person who initially enters such service after September 7, 1980, shall be<br />exclusively as prescribed in this title.<br />(b) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (3) of this subsection, a person described in paragraph (2)<br />of this subsection who is discharged or released from a period of active duty before completing<br />the shorter of—<br />(A) 24 months of continuous active duty, or<br />(B) the full period for which such person was called or ordered to active duty,<br />is not eligible by reason of such period of active duty for any benefit under this title or any other<br />law administered by the Secretary.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />1997 <br />Means of Improving the Provision of<br />Uniform and Consistent Medical and Dental Care to<br />Members of the Reserve Components<br />Report<br />To<br />Congress<br />BACKGROUND<br />During the Cold War, a reservist incurred limited exposure to potential hazards during periods of<br />duty (active or inactive duty).<br />Since the end of the Cold War, and with the drawdown of the force, the role of the Reserve<br />components has changed, and the use of the RCs in the performance of operational missions<br />has increased dramatically. Reservists are now providing daily support to military operations<br />around the world. This increased use results in a significant increase in exposure to injury,<br />illness, disease, and death in the line of duty. As shown in Exhibit 1, Reserve component<br />manday<br />contributions to Total Force missions have increased tenfold<br />from a 1989 benchmark.<br />At the same time, the overall strength of the Reserve forces has decreased by nearly one<br />quarter. As a result, the average Reservist <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html">Brief History of Punishment by Flogging in the US Navy</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Warnings against the excessive use of flogging were written as early as 1797 by Captain Thomas Truxtun and in 1808 by Surgeon Edward Cutbush. A proposal to abolish flogging was first introduced in Congress in 1820 by Representative Samuel Foot, but it was unsuccessful. Congressman Foot was the father of Andrew Hull Foote, who was later an admiral in the Civil War. In 1831 Secretary of the Navy Levi Woodbury issued an order that said until...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Thu, 26 Dec 2019 21:20:07 -0500 Would the Founding Fathers of the United States, framers of the Constitution, be proud I study Human Rights issues? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/would-the-founding-fathers-of-the-united-states-framers-of-the-constitution-be-proud-i-study-human-rights-issues <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For one how can someone make a whole enlistment package that will not be recognized by the VA ? There are many ways to injure someone on accident or otherwise. There are many ways to flog someone. Give them an enlistment that will buden them and not even be recognized as a veteran for veteran purposes, and only find that out after you are in the streets homeless getting abused sexually and financially by your landlord. But the Navy taught me one one thing never to give up, and John Paul Jones was a Revolutionary War hero known as the father of ... to surrender, he famously responded: “I have not yet begun to fight!” <br /><br />All I fight to do is have some form of dignity.<br />I honor my other vets service members for many reasons. I would say we need to be ready. <br /><br /><br />Flogging was used after the Constitution was signed well into the 1900s as the form of punishment on the ship! Navy Historical Society has a great article on it.<br />My master chief when i was not feeling well at sea basically flogged me without a cat o 9 tails and the affects were similar and my Navy Army transfer was attempted. My dreams of being an officer, my meritirious bootcmap achievment paygrade advancement were all sort of in the past by then only 22, having midlife crisis having to attempt a Navy Army Transfer as a safety valve.<br /><br />There have been many civil rights human rights battles historically and ongoing such as females having equal rights and not being abused in society, battles such as woman&#39;s suffrage and integration and respect into the military.<br /><br />I sort of lived and found another place where you could actually serve on guided missile frigates for years in an enlistment that would not recognized by the VA. <br /><br />Yes serving on a FFG for 5 years part time is not something you want to happen to you ripped on and off and have a 24/7 commitment for readiness otherwise, no health care off the ship, and the pay is not going to pay for rent that month or food for that matter. Yes a reserve enlistment is a 8yr obligation. For a 18 year old that could be a way to serve and go to college at the same time, and get a degree by 22 and commission! What a good idea! But derails that dream depending on many factors of unit assignment in between that time, and what actually happens on duty. But you need all this special paper work and many commands to sign off on it for a simple stress injury that is easily overlooked on a guided missle frigate that will not get better but much worse never given medical attention because. So I hope someone changes this. Maybe it has changed already. But I at least put a few articles I found that go over a few other human rights issues in the military. <br /><br />This topic has been studied by Congress. How can someone swear an oath to defend the Constitution and get less rights then a regular citizen? How can a contract signed by a 18 year old, not even be recognized?<br /><br /><br />CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF<br />MILITARY PERSONNEL<br />COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY<br />UNITED STATES SENATE<br />88th Congress, 1st Session<br /><br />PREFACE<br /><br />No persons should be more entitled to protection of their constitutional rights than the servicemen engaged in protecting the sovereignty of the United States. Appropriately, the Subcommittee on Consti- tutional Rights has been concerned since its formation with the rights of military personnel and has made several studies in that connection.<br /><br /><br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html">https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html</a><br /><br />In the public mind, especially in the North, the practice of flogging was often associated with the treatment of convicts and slaves, and it was believed to be contrary to the democratic spirit of the times and the ideals of the United States. Support for this view came from William McNally, who claimed to be a former sailor. In 1839 he published a work on Evil Island Abuses in the Naval and Merchant Service in which he argued that sailors were treated worse than slaves. He cited instances where more than the legal number of lashes were inflicted in floggings. He also argued that flogging kept Native American men from joining the Navy. This, in turn, led to a shortage of manpower in the Navy and merchant service which led both to resort to using foreign-born sailors.<br /><br /> In the 1840&#39;s a number of civilian groups began to petition Congress to abolish flogging.<br />One reflection of this movement came in 1847 when John P. Hale of New Hampshire was elected to the Senate by an anti-slavery party. Earlier Hale had served as a Democratic Representative from New Hampshire, and in 1844 and 1845 he introduced amendments to bills that would abolish flogging in the Navy. These efforts were unsuccessful. Following his return to Washington he announced to the Senate his intention to abolish flogging. Between December1849 and June 1850 the Senate received 271 petitions from the citizens of various states urging the end of flogging. In 1850the Secretary of the Navy sent an inquiry to a number of naval officers asking for their opinions on whether flogging and grog could be eliminated without damage to the Navy. Of the 84 replies received by the secretary, only seven officers thought that flogging should be discontinued. Therefore when Senator Hale succeeded in getting a law passed in September 1850 abolishing flogging in the Navy and merchant marine, there were a number of naval officers who thought that the legislation was misguided.<br />Meanwhile in March 1850 Herman Melville&#39;s novel, White-Jacket, or The World in a Man-of-War was published. It contained a chapter on flogging and others on its evil effects and unlawful use. He called for its abolition. Some naval officers took exception to Melville&#39;s remarks and wrote rebuttals, a few of which were published in newspapers or pamphlets.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />2015 US Department of Veteran Affairs<br />Dear Aaron Hassay<br />We Regret to inform you that after careful review of your records by our Enrollment and Eligibility staff, we are proposing to terminate your VA health care benefits. We have made an initial determination that you rae ineligible for VA health care for the following reason:<br />Minimum Active Duty Service Requirements-A person who originally enlisted in a regular component of the Armed Forces after September 7, 1980, or who entered active dut4y after October 16, 1981, and who is discharged or released from a period of active duty before completing the shorter of 24 months of continuous active duty, or the full period for which<br />The individual was called or ordered to active duty is not eligible for VA health care by reason of such period of active duty. National Guard and reserve members with active duty for training purposes only do not meet this basic eligibility requirement unless the individual concerned was disabled in the line of duty. According to our records you were called Active Duty for Training only.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />38 USC 5303A<br />TITLE 38 - VETERANS BENEFITS<br />§ 5303A. Minimum active-duty service requirement<br />§ 5303A. Minimum active-duty service requirement<br />(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, any requirements for eligibility for or entitlement to<br />any benefit under this title or any other law administered by the Secretary that are based on the length<br />of active duty served by a person who initially enters such service after September 7, 1980, shall be<br />exclusively as prescribed in this title.<br />(b) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (3) of this subsection, a person described in paragraph (2)<br />of this subsection who is discharged or released from a period of active duty before completing<br />the shorter of—<br />(A) 24 months of continuous active duty, or<br />(B) the full period for which such person was called or ordered to active duty,<br />is not eligible by reason of such period of active duty for any benefit under this title or any other<br />law administered by the Secretary.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />1997 <br />Means of Improving the Provision of<br />Uniform and Consistent Medical and Dental Care to<br />Members of the Reserve Components<br />Report<br />To<br />Congress<br />BACKGROUND<br />During the Cold War, a reservist incurred limited exposure to potential hazards during periods of<br />duty (active or inactive duty).<br />Since the end of the Cold War, and with the drawdown of the force, the role of the Reserve<br />components has changed, and the use of the RCs in the performance of operational missions<br />has increased dramatically. Reservists are now providing daily support to military operations<br />around the world. This increased use results in a significant increase in exposure to injury,<br />illness, disease, and death in the line of duty. As shown in Exhibit 1, Reserve component<br />manday<br />contributions to Total Force missions have increased tenfold<br />from a 1989 benchmark.<br />At the same time, the overall strength of the Reserve forces has decreased by nearly one<br />quarter. As a result, the average Reservist <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/brief-history-punishment-flogging-us-navy.html">Brief History of Punishment by Flogging in the US Navy</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Warnings against the excessive use of flogging were written as early as 1797 by Captain Thomas Truxtun and in 1808 by Surgeon Edward Cutbush. A proposal to abolish flogging was first introduced in Congress in 1820 by Representative Samuel Foot, but it was unsuccessful. Congressman Foot was the father of Andrew Hull Foote, who was later an admiral in the Civil War. In 1831 Secretary of the Navy Levi Woodbury issued an order that said until...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> PO3 Aaron Hassay Thu, 26 Dec 2019 21:20:07 -0500 2019-12-26T21:20:07-05:00 2019-12-26T21:20:07-05:00