Posted on Feb 19, 2014
1SG Michael Blount
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What's next? Pestilence, flies and locusts?  The fit has rightfully hit the shan. I would take all the people involved and dishonorably discharge every last one.
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SPC Training Room Nco
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Empty casket or not, it should be treated in the same way of the thing it represents. If I was out training with my unit and using "rubber duck" M4's and I was waving it about, flagging the guys to my left and right, I would expect the same reprimand if I were doing that with a real M4. I've been taught to train as we fight. I apologize for my generation.
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As much as I appreciate the apology for your generation, for me, the statements she made are far FAR worse than the pic with the casket. We all do stupid crap now and then, its just part of what we do. Could they have done it without the casket ehh yeah, but the only thing that makes it worse are her stupid statements that accompany it. For me, Im not too upset about the casket photo, its her statements and disdain for the military and what she signed up to do, and that damn male tie she is wearing,, wtf is she wearing a male tie for?
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SFC Contracting Nco
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a few throat punches and then a boot to the ass would probably start their punishment off 
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1SG Michael Blount
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Edited 11 y ago
Oh, you're gonna love this - one of Ft Carson's "finest"  An absolutely disgusting image of the Army. Can't we do better?



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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Absolutely, SFC.  I honestly think her FLL and PSG are going to be in a world of hurt, if they're not there already
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CW2 Joseph Evans
CW2 Joseph Evans
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Might take a little more than that. Unless they can get PFC Sheffey to admit that "Sheffeynation" is indeed a username controlled by her on instagram, there is a grounds for a challenge.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
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As soon as Flag and Senior Officers and Senior NCOs stop showing up in the news for behaving badly, I'll worry about the antics of a few juniors from the National Guard and Air Force.

Perception is reality, 1SG, and the reality is, there is no respect from or for the brass, what makes you think they are going to respect the dead when we shit on the living? It's a top down problem. Top.

If you want any respect for the flag or the uniform, police your own first.
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LTC Joseph Gross
LTC Joseph Gross
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I think we can do both. And I think we owe it to the service to do both. 
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Chief - Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but these antics from lower enlisteds pop up every other week.  
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CW2 Joseph Evans
CW2 Joseph Evans
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588 NCOs removed from positions of trust, CW3 and SFC sentenced for theft of $1.3 Million in Army Equipment, AFRICOM Commander relieved for misuse of funds. Petraeus steps down over affair with subordinate.
And we want Commands to throw snuffy under the bus over an ill conceived photo op? Some of these juniors are getting shredded after the fact because their picture is now out there and being made fun of on fake sites, recirculated well after  the fact. Social Media sites that put out command phone numbers of Soldiers shut down command functions for a week listening to people whine about Lakesha's earrings that she put on to show her friends before she took her uniform off, or rehash a 6th month old photo that can only be found on a copycat site now...
Yes, Social media is dangerous to careers, as every Soldier is learning now. Be stupid once, you shut down your unit for a week, not just once, but every time someone has a beef with you.

God forbid snuffy gets good enough with photoshop that commanders and First Sergeants start finding themselves in difficult to explain situations. Can't believe everything you see on the internet.
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SGT Iew Section Lead
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Snuffy already is good enough with photoshop Chief.  But not just photoshop I could easily replicate that same twitter/instagram or whatever social media website with someone else's picture and tag name by manipulating the source code. But I wouldn't do that to someone even if they deserved it. And I would get sued.

But everyone wants to judge someone else and put someone else's business on blast.  I think that the kind of disrespect that these soldiers have shown in their actions and by posting on public social medial is idiotic and a damn shame.  I am proud of my years of service, and stunts like this give uniformed servicemembers a bad name.

But, just as you said, it most certainly is not just junior enlisted behaving in this ridiculous manner.  But I can tell you from first-hand experience that the junior enlisted, the enlisted period, get slammed where the same actions in the higher ranks get a slap on the wrist, if anything.

When leaders fail, their soldiers fail.  When soldiers fail, their leaders already failed.  If these Soldiers had any kind of respect for their leadership, they wouldn't behave this way.  If their leaders don't earn their respect, there's a reason for it. And its not always going to be because that Soldier is just jacked up.
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