Will the U.S. ever have a President who saw combat in OEF or OIF?

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Many U.S. Presidents have served in the military, and the majority of those served during a major war. Do you think we will see a future President who served in OEF or OIF? Would the American public support a Veteran from this era in office?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2014 11:55 AM

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A very interesting and thought provoking question. I do think that we will see a president from this Era eventually. Many have served during this long drawn out conflict and the numbers are far more than any other war most likely.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Aug 13 at 2014 11:57 AM

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Great and interesting graphic. Really puts things into an interesting view.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 13 at 2014 2:46 PM

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I think the image is being MIGHTY generous saying Bush junior served...

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Aug 13 at 2014 5:23 PM

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LT D, Ma'am having a future POTUS with prior service experience plus combat zone experience would be great because I assume they would know what the troops go through. That might cause a POTUS to be more sensitive to our needs in terms of health care and other needs for SMs currently serving, and for our Veterans.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2014 5:44 PM

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I'm still hoping Colin Powell will run. However I think it would be great to have a president that was involved in one of those.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2014 6:28 AM

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Unfortunately, I believe that the prestige these noble former President's gained through their service has become overshadowed in a world where elections cost hundreds of millions of dollars through the campaigning process where candidates present empty promises which weaken the nation but appeal to the slothy masses and economic thralls.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2014 11:33 AM

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Never know...? There is some potential out there I think. With all the Veterans that we have from OEF, OIF, there is bound to be a handful of people who have the burning desire to be president...

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 7 at 2014 7:06 PM

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I'll give it a go, but I would be so blatantly pro-military and veteran that I'd get taken out before the end of my first year.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 7 at 2014 8:09 PM

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We can only hope that we will get a recent Veteran in as POTUS and in my opinion it can not happen soon enough. We do have a boat load of OIF/OEF (and obviously Viet Nam and Korea) Vets on Capital Hill, and certainly a couple of them certainly have potential, as long as they never forget where they came from.

Response by TSgt Scott Hurley made Sep 7 at 2014 8:29 PM

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Will one become President who has served in OIF/OEF? That is a good question. I think the problem today will be that the good chunk of the populace will be of the mind set that says, "He served in a war. Why should I vote for them? I do not think that they would make a good President. I want a president that will provide for me." That is typical of the mind set of those that want the government to provide for them. And they see the military vets that are in office as taking that away from them.

Would it be good that the next President have military service/served in a war zone. Yes it would. That means they have knowledge of what it takes to protect and defend this country. After the cold war, we shrank our armed forces without recapitalizing/modernizing them. Yes, we did get the F-22, and the Navy did get new Submarines and surface ships (Carriers, Cruisers, destroyers, and Frigates). But the modernization of forces should have been done along side of the draw down. Not oh we can take care of anyone with what we have. We need a President that understands that and can tell congress to F itself when they say we do not need to modernize. When they say, "we want to spend more money on things like welfare, education, etc. But we want to cut defense spending." Instead of reforming those programs.

So we need a someone who can tell congress that they should be following the Constitution and not what someone that believes in social justice wants. Because that is exactly what is going on now.

Response by SSG Pete Fleming made Sep 7 at 2014 9:31 PM

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I think we will. It might not happen right away... George Bush Senior was elected after how many decades after the war... So I defiantly think we will, however with the way things are going there might be a bigger war that overshadows this one...

Besides, correct me if I am wrong, but every General who ever ran during the final/primary election campaign (not trying to get nominated on a party's ticket) has won. (McCain was not a General and Clark didn't get the nomination...)

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Sep 8 at 2014 1:34 PM

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I would like to see an Enlisted - Veteran President.

Response by SSG Robin Rushlo made Sep 8 at 2014 2:14 PM

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I doubt it. None of use will go through the BS. WE have done enough S##T shoveling.

Response by CW4 Dan Cady made Sep 8 at 2014 5:49 PM

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Let's get one on the right path, right now! Who should be "our" 2020 candidate. Hope I am alive to see it. Male, female, Army, Navy, Marine, Air Force, Coast Guard, active, reserve, guard. As long as it is a veteran with proven performance under pressure that has common sense, courage, fortitude for the tough job and loves this great country, then I am on board!

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Sep 8 at 2014 10:47 PM

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General David Petraeus had the best shot...may have blown it.

If Generals Ray Odierno or John Campbell keep it up, they may find themselves as a nominee.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2014 11:15 PM

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MAJ Laurie H. well we were waiting some more polling in Iowa, but MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca is looking at running in 2016. He is still looking for a VP though.....any takers?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2014 12:21 AM

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"Mad Dog" Mattis 2016!!!!

Response by CW2 Jonathan Kantor made Sep 9 at 2014 4:56 AM

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Probably. The trend for the CiC to have served has always been around... but that's mainly because we have had a major military conflict every 10-15 years since this country was founded.

Frankly, I don't know why anyone would want the job. Especially a combat veteran. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the President.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Sep 9 at 2014 10:54 AM

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Honestly, I doubt it. For one, the cultural shift in our nation no longer sees military service as a valuable thing or an obligation of being a citizen. With only 1% of our population having ever served, that is a very small candidate pool. Second, many vets are turned off by politics further reducing the candidate pool.

I would love to see a vet from our generation in the White House, but honestly the folks who run for high office tend to be career politicians.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Sep 9 at 2014 11:01 AM

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Since our current POTUS fires every General whose opinion ever differs, It's hard to tell if there will be anyone left at a high level who might be qualified.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2014 11:29 AM

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Absolutely.. Although, maybe not "Saw Combat" but at least someone who was commissioned/enlisted during the time. It is almost a natural chain of events. When you are directly evolved in the advancement of our society becoming the person to make changes that you found to be important seems to be the next step.

I can see a few of the officers and enlisted that I have served with running some day.

Response by SSG William Patton made Sep 9 at 2014 3:54 PM

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I think in time, a candidate who served in Irag and Afghanistan will run for president and probably be elected. I do not think it is necessarily a must, but I think a president with military service has a better understanding of the needs of the military and what sacrifices those who serve make. It is obvious to me that the clown in the White House now has no idea of what the military sacrifces and I wonder if he even cares. We have had others who served, who like Obama were clueless, Jimmy Carter comes to mind. My personal opinion, the best president we have had since WWII was Eisenhower. His legacy of the interstate highway system and his stand on civil rights have opened the door for both our economy and our society. People forget Ike was the president who forced integration in Little Rock and in our schools. It took time to spread, but on his watch, the nation became more aware and the term we are all created equal had meaning, maybe for the first time.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2014 6:46 PM

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MAJ Laurie H. - First, thanks for your help earlier today. Anyway, I hope we do see one because as I see it, I am really proud of our troops especially since they were operating under very tight rules of engagement and they carried it off pretty well. Now, Gen Schwartkopf and his leadership is passing on, I expect we will see more candidates that get our needs from an active duty and especially war time. I felt so good seeing these young men act like they had leaders because at the end of Vietnam many troops were careful not to be in uniform.

Response by CPT Jacob Swartout made Sep 9 at 2014 9:06 PM

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There is a good possibility that we will see someone become President that served recently.

Response by SPC Jeremy Hendley made Sep 10 at 2014 5:38 AM

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I too served with a President who never spent time in the military. When he was asked to join he went to England to go to school. Yet the man was will to send me to Haiti to quall a coup in a country we had no business to be in. Also we were so blessed by him he gave us payless paid days. He didnt have the money to pay his military. Yes i understand we have a President that has no clue.

i agree Collen Powell would be awesome as a President. Do you remember when Ronald Reagan Called out Quadalifi. He was messing with the US and a tomahawk between his family and we had peace.

Response by SPC Jeremy Hendley made Sep 10 at 2014 5:53 AM

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i too served under a president that never served. When he was called up he used a college. he also tried to send us to jump into haiti.

he also blessed us with payless pay days.

what happened to the mold they made ronald reagan out of. he certainly didnt take any crap. just ask quadalfi

Response by Cpl Peter Martuneac made Sep 10 at 2014 8:38 AM

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Yes. Me. Vote Martuneac when you see my campaign ads in the future.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 10 at 2014 8:39 PM

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I believe that most of the people that fit this bill, are too smart to do so. 20-30 years of politics is enough for most. It would be a refreshing move if one did though. (Hint, hint... Colin Powell).

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 10 at 2014 8:42 PM

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As good as I think that it could be for our country to get someone from our era of the military I don't think that with our current pollitical climate it would happen. Today to win an election you first have to have money and then you have to represent big money. I unfortunatly feel that the golden age of or country is behind us...the days of getting people into office that have the peoples best interest in mind are gone. One thing that everyone needs to rember when picking who to vote for make sure that what they say and do makes sense and they are for the betterment of the country not their party or big money. Stop listening to the big rallies and the big money news and think for your self educate yourself on what is important and vote fore that. BY doing that sweeping change to this country can happen and then I could very likely see and vote for anyone of you or the masses of other potential military cadidates.

Response by COL Randall C. made Sep 11 at 2014 6:49 AM

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I don't know about having combat experience, but I would be satisfied if our Command in Chief had ANY sort of military experience, regardless of which COMPO, active duty or M-day, etc.

Response by SN Kevin Townsend made Sep 11 at 2014 8:47 AM

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Personally, I don't think you can lead something/someone without first hand knowledge/experience of how what you want to lead works to begin with. I personally think that being a Military Veteran SHOULD be a REQUIREMENT to be considered for President.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 8:58 AM

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I think we will see a president that served in OIF or OEF or maybe even both. Do I think that we will see it with the next elections.......unfortunately no. I think it will take a couple elections before we see someone that served in these wars, but I think it will, like it has in the past, be beneficial to not only the US Military, but the US population as well when a veteran is elected again.

Response by PO1 John Smith made Sep 11 at 2014 9:55 AM

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No.

Politics has become a game for millionaires. Even the most highly decorated veteran would be lucky to be elected to any position higher than the US Senate.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 10:15 AM

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I think we will see it eventually, but given the average age of service members and the average age of Presidents, it will likely be a little longer before we see it.

Response by SPC Ernest Liebe made Sep 11 at 2014 12:25 PM

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this would make a fun trivia game

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 11 at 2014 3:08 PM

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Great Chart thanks for sharing.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 3:37 PM

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It wouldn't surprise me if it happened at some point. Will it be in the near future? I can't tell you that, but if we look at the number of vets we have from OIF and OEF that's a very high number. I think it's just a matter of time. However if I have my choice to nominate and vote for anyone I chose General Mattis. Why? Because who doesn't want this man of sheer awesomeness in office to represent our nation right now.

Response by PO1 Ricky Allen made Sep 11 at 2014 4:07 PM

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Interesting indeed - never thought about that.

Response by Cpl Andrew Tucker made Sep 11 at 2014 4:15 PM

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Mad Dog Mattis for President!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Sep 11 at 2014 6:19 PM

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Look, if you want me to run just ask.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2014 7:02 PM

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I sure hope so. Unfortunately, some of the best leaders have left or have been otherwise dismissed. I think it would sure help our foreign policy to have a CINC with a field-perspective of employing us, knowing death may be a side-effect (and what that looks like to a widow, son/daughter or a mom & dad).

Response by SGT Joshua James made Sep 12 at 2014 12:08 AM

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However, Lincoln did fight in the Black Hawk War of 1832 in Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin.

Response by PFC Michael Carlisle made Sep 12 at 2014 12:19 AM

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they wont allow an actual vet into office, watch and see what happened to gen. perious when votes get casted, people will ignore him

Response by PFC Levi Kalin made Sep 12 at 2014 12:31 AM

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I Nominate General McMaster

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2014 4:04 AM

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Would this also be the first president to mandate PT belt wear for the entire US population? Safety First!!!

Response by CPL Tyler Duke made Sep 12 at 2014 9:07 AM

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I truly think so. As time goes on so do the eras. It won't be long until there is an iraq war vet in office.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2014 1:18 PM

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I believe that it is possible to see an OIF/OEF Veteran one day sit serve as President. Will it be one of the current general officers - I hope not. Historically general officers don't make good presidents when you look at their records.

Jimmy Carter was probably a good naval officer on submarines but he was far from being considered an effective president.

President Reagan and President Bush (II) were more remarkable as president than their respective military careers.

President Bush (I) is a combat veteran and war "hero" in perspective. His presidency was not that bad.

Being a great warrior does not make a great president.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2014 1:27 PM

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Within our community (those who have served in uniform) we all tend to want to see in our Leaders a person who has shared our experiences, values, and commitments. However since we only represent 1% of he population the chances of seeing "one of our own" gets slimmer and slimmer each year as the total population gets larger.

Want I want in a president is someone who knows how to accept the counsel and experience of those in uniform. That person then needs to be able to take that advice and make a prompt and informed decision.

Response by SSgt Jim Barnhouse made Sep 12 at 2014 11:58 PM

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Are we forgetting the one POTUS that did not serve?

Response by SFC Ryan Berg made Sep 13 at 2014 9:36 AM

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difficult, the power of the lobby groups, PetroChemical, Big Pharma, the faux press/media and the Green Movement(ie: Communists) have successfully tied up our election process through the use of mega money and the brain washing of the American Sheeple have just about precluded the above average American the ability to run for anything other than local positions in our government.

Response by LTC Mike Turner made Sep 13 at 2014 11:36 AM

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I thought Eisenhower served in WWI also?

Response by MSgt Guillermo Ybarra III made Sep 14 at 2014 2:30 AM

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It's really great to see all those who have served.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2014 5:24 AM

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I would hope so but where is our President who served in Vietnam? There must be a lot of politicians from that era?

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/number-of-veterans-in-congress-has-fallen-drastically-since-post/article_bd824d5f-0a02-569c-91fc-0b7a62b6dab1.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/30/many-iraq-afghanistan-war-veterans-choosing-econd-service-by-going-into/

Number of veterans in Congress has fallen drastically since post-Vietnam years : News

But some expect Iraq, Afghanistan vets to add to numbers in coming years

Response by LT Larry Linscott made Sep 14 at 2014 3:07 PM

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Duncan Hunter would be a great leader for the country.....

Response by PO3 Stephen Trawick made Sep 14 at 2014 6:13 PM

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Should be a requirement! The President or nominee should have Military service and experience. Even if it is only in reserves or a 4 year enlistment.

Response by LCpl Dennis Cote made Sep 15 at 2014 10:30 AM

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The one correction that I would give is that James Madison was the only sitting US President to actually assume personal command of an artillery unit during the War of 1812. No other sitting President has seen actual combat. Mind you Dolly Madison was back at the White House trying to save what she could before it was burned.

Response by Keith Nadig made Sep 15 at 2014 11:03 AM

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Possible; but unlikely as the proportion of veterans who are elected to public office has been steadily declining since the 1970's. This reflects a growing trend in our population as veterans are becoming less and less a percentage as compared to the population as whole.

Response by PO3 Jeremy Smith made Sep 16 at 2014 6:09 PM

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So are rumors true about Clinton and Bush jr. Both were draft dodgers?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2014 7:16 PM

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I sure hope so,,,,,, I retire in 2 years plan to go to law school then run for congress.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2014 12:35 AM

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so no one actively deployed since ww1 that explains the great depression and everything else since i guess lol

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2014 1:14 AM

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Unfortunately no, with the way the public views veterans nowadays I don't think it will happened. not in a time where veterans in uniform is forbidden from entering a school campus, I don't see things getting better for us. I do think it should be one of the requirements to be elected as a president, not necessarily have to served in combat, just serve period.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2014 12:15 PM

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Only time will tell.

Response by Cpl David Schaffer made Sep 19 at 2014 5:30 PM

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Those who have the best chance will be career officers and SNCO's. Gentlemen and Ladies I do not mean to sound rude, but feel many of you have progressed because of politics. This is not necessarily a bad thing just my own observation. Now some are\were serious hard chargers and earned their ranks; however, they do not stand a chance because they are too brash and do not play the political game like people want them to. I would love to see somebody from this generation serve as President but find it highly unlikely.

Response by SSG Toryn Green made Sep 19 at 2014 9:51 PM

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I believe we will see that happen, however, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

Response by PO1 Ron Clark made Sep 24 at 2014 11:53 AM

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Probably

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Sep 24 at 2014 3:38 PM

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Sure.. we've gone from citizen soldier to community organizer... we've hit bottom and should start over.

Response by SGT Mark Sullivan made Sep 26 at 2014 6:49 PM

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I hope so

Response by SSG Clint Browning made Sep 26 at 2014 10:23 PM

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Put down "Mattis" as a write in candidate!

Response by COL Sam Russell made Sep 27 at 2014 6:17 PM

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There are 34 presidents pictured. Would have been a much shorter list to show those with no military experience.

Response by SGT Fredrick Ramm made Oct 7 at 2014 1:27 AM

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you forgot George H. Bush, combat:USN WWII

Response by 1SG Pete Marcell made Oct 7 at 2014 7:13 PM

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Perhaps?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2014 8:28 PM

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It's a good possibility. I have seen a lot of politicians among our offices and senior NCOs in my 27 years of service. I served with some in my last deployment to Afghanistan that were more politicians than Soldiers.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2014 12:00 PM

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I doubt that we will see a combat veteran in the White House without some serious change. Politicians today more and more are businessmen and -women. Am I saying that service members are not? No. What I am saying is that most politicians are able to either provide millions of dollars or raise millions of dollars in order to win an election. Are there exceptions to this? Certainly. Could one of those exceptions make it that far? Maybe, but not likely.

Here is the second point I would like to make. While I would love to see a combat veteran from this era (or any veteran, for that matter) as President, I would rather have a President who is capable of appointing competent subordinates, assigning them their mission, and then listening to their input or advice. Leaders at all levels of the military (are supposed to) do that, and I think that the President should be no different. The Chiefs of Staff of the services have spent their entire lives as leaders of their respective services, and the President should be able to realize that he is the Johnny-Come-Lately, and should be able to listen and learn from his senior military subordinates.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 9:09 AM

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Seems unlikely, given the ever-shrinking pool of political figures that were ever in the military.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 11:11 AM

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Only if they run for office, I posted a Q about running for office and thus far only one had an interest.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 11:34 AM

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I actually have ambitions to run for president. I understand what it entails, and I have a pretty solid handle on what I need as far as platforms and etc. This is a long time away, but still.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 12:39 PM

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Sadly, it's not likely :-/

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Oct 26 at 2014 12:45 PM

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I served in OIF, but I'm not even close to being interested in running for POTUS. My ambitions go as far as governor, if that far.

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Oct 26 at 2014 2:30 PM

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I would like to see more veterans, and combat veterans enter into the political arena. I think combat veterans have a perspective about war and it's impact on others that would make their decisions more insightful.

The worse thing about the political arena, it has the capability to corrupt the most sincere.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 4:17 PM

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As respect for and appreciation of service to the country falls the likely hood of a combat vet manning the oval office will also fall. Also the fact that the white house is achieved (the problem we may have with recent and current administrations is the concept that they have "won" the office of the president and therefore feel entitled to it and don't respect its importance or power) through the electoral college and not the public further reduces this chance. I have seen the areas where military or civil service are most appreciated, many would call these places the dregs of our society. Had an entire night at a bar free once or twice due to my service, and all i did was use my military I.D. as proof of age because it was in front of my D.L.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 5:12 PM

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I hope we get someone in office again with some military experience...anyone...from any conflict....please.

Response by Sgt Jon Johnson made Oct 26 at 2014 5:30 PM

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Great book that talks about this subject!

AWOL: The Unexcused Absence of America's Upper Classes from Military Service -- and How It Hurts Our Country

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 6:41 PM

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I think it will happen. We already got OIF/OEF Vets in Congress and the Senate. Although, in my personal opinion, I think military service should be a requirement for ALL politicians

Response by CPO Tim Dickey made Oct 26 at 2014 7:28 PM

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Maybe retired LTC Allen West? Hey, I might consider it. The only problem is that I really don't like getting my hands dirty (in politics).

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Oct 27 at 2014 2:11 AM

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The way the political dynamic is these days, I doubt it. I wouldn't entirely dismiss the idea, but given the fact politics is a rich man's game, any warrior worth his or her salt will probably be marginalized in the greater scheme of things, if not ignored. Sad but true.

Response by COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM made Oct 27 at 2014 1:57 PM

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The short answer is: too soon to tell if the US will have a President who saw combat in OEF or OIF. The long answer is possible but not sure how probable it is. In the short term probably very unlikely but more likely as we move forward over the next 5-30 years. If this is a goal that an individual wants to have then they should be setting conditions now by educating and informing themselves. Ronald Reagan, for example, was not good because he became good while in office but rather because he educated and informed himself for several years before becoming President. Once he became President, he already had a vision and a plan for what he wanted to achieve.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2014 6:44 PM

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Didn't Marine Corps. MOH recipient Dakota Meyer voice that he had political aspirations, to include presidential candidacy in the future?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2014 2:57 AM

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I sure hope so. I'm all about the Starship Troopers model.

Response by SSG Christopher Parrish made Oct 28 at 2014 3:00 PM

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Unfortunately I don't believe we will. Too many veterans these days won't take the level of crap thrown at them in DC, and today's politicians are too sensitive to work with someone who shoots that straight.

I would love to see LTC West, Gen Mattis, or even Gen Petraeus, but I think Petraeus is out because he is a Rep who got caught. The Dems don't seem to care if they mess around, but skewer the Repubs who do.

Response by CW5 Sam R. Baker made Oct 28 at 2014 3:13 PM

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I would like to think it possible in this day and age, however I constantly ask myself and then others, who wishes to be President? Would anyone with a sane mind and sound body wish to have such a responsibility and for what? To be called the POTUS? In a time where we are seeking to be a "Profession of Arms" with honorable service, is politics something an honorable person would take on? Every politician whom I recall was honorable at taking office, who kept it during office, normally is not still in office.

Response by SSG Tim Everett made Oct 29 at 2014 8:18 AM

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I'm going to say no -- we keep electing the same families into office. We're probably going to have either another Clinton or another Bush in the White House. It seems to be a dwindling number of people that will run for president -- I'm surprised they let President Obama even get into the running. Soon, PotUS will be a dynasty, like kings.

That is, unless we do something about it. Unfortunately most people are sheep, and the ones who aren't sheep are usually apathetic or not well-connected.

Response by MAJ Dallas D. made Oct 29 at 2014 11:57 AM

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Great question and I think with the number of military members who have now served in combat I would be surprised if we didn't eventually have someone at least running for the office. I do think it would have to be someone like Gen(Ret) Colin Powell.

Response by SSG Marciano Gonzalez made Nov 3 at 2014 12:58 PM

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no their rank equally for the booth of them

Response by CPT Endre Barath made Nov 9 at 2014 1:26 AM

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What a great question, I anticipate there will be future Presidents who have served in the Military and some actually will have served in combat. Look at the average age when a person becomes President of the USA, so considering those who are in their 20's are all candidates to be President of the US...just sayin...

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Nov 9 at 2014 1:24 PM

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MAJ Laurie H. , Ma'am, Sadly in the last Presidential election it was pointed out this election had no one who had ever served in the military running for President or Vice President. Consequently, I remain hopeful but not overly optimistic. During the years of the draft, it was much more common to see military members in the office of President. Many of our first Presidents had military experience and the 1st President Bush was the last who had combat experience from WWII. As we shifted to an all volunteer force this seems to have reduced the numbers with military experience.

My belief is that service makes you better aware of world events, the impact of serving on service members and their families, and the impact that a reduction of benefits, no or low salary increase, and or other loss of benefits entails. Further, it provides good order and discipline, time management skills, and LEADERSHIP foundations. All of these qualities and more make a Veteran a likely candidate to lead our country, and yet as time goes by the chances seem reduced.

President George H.W. Bush was the last WWII veteran to serve as President and his term was from 1989 through 1993. If we use the same logic, roughly 40 years after the war ends the last President who served in the Afghanistan or Iraq wars will be in office, then we have roughly 40 plus years to go. Hopefully in that time, one of our contemporaries will decide to run and be elected.

Thank you for your question.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 10 at 2014 1:28 PM

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I heard somewhere the rich will wage wars and the poor will fight those wars. Its hard for me to respect someone who send us to war yet they have never or will ever wear combat boots.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 9:26 PM

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Probably, but not for a while, I'd guess. Look how long WW2 era folks were in office (Ike to Bush the Elder, and nearly Bob Dole), and Vietnam era POTUSs (Clinton onward), and I don't see the Baby Boomers giving it up power any faster than their predecessors did.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2014 8:52 AM

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While I cant say whether we will or won't have a president with experience in the future, I can say that I believe that there are alot of young veterans that are starting their political careers that look to be promising difference makers when they get there. How it all shakes out when it does get to the Commander-in-Chief is a whole different ballgame that can take us onto a completely different conversation.
By the way, on the illustration for Presidents and war service, I think there are a few mistakes. I know this is not your illustration, but it is the first time I have seen it so I wanted to point out the small errors.
1. A. Jackson was not old enough for formal service in the Revolutionary War, being born in 1767. If we are to include his service as an American Irregular, I believe that we should include all members of the Continental Congress that passed the Declaration of Independance, as that was truly an act of war.
2. Z. Taylor's service in the War of 1812 is a little lacking, he may have been in service but should have an asterik as well.
3. R. Nixon saw no actual combat in WWII and should also have an asterik.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2014 6:37 PM

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As politically involved as our military leadership has become, I honestly do not believe we will see anyone who served in OIF/OEF be elected as POTUS. I do, however, feel that the POTUS should serve at least one tour in the military, even if they never see combat. I also feel this way regarding the SECDEF. I believe that to understand the nature of the military and to truly understand its structure and effectiveness, these leaders will need the experience.

Response by SP5 Richard Maze made Dec 5 at 2014 9:14 PM

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Odds have to be against it, not because nobody is qualified but because percentages work against the Post-9/11 generation of veterans. It would have to be someone dynamic, with a Clinton-like ability to be loved and with strong fund raising abilities. That is not saying a Post-9/11 vet wouldn't be a great president because service members have a lot of character traits that make them attractive candidates and good leaders.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2015 11:17 AM

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We've had not POTUS that was a Veteran of Korea or Vietnam, although there were surely some of those vets that I would have voted for (SEN John Glenn, a WWII and Korean vet, comes to mind). I think that this trend is continuing, sadly. It may not be a matter of having support from society as much as it is a matter of not having a Vet be a willing candidate.

Allen West is a Desert Storm and OIF vet, he is a possibility, but I really don't think that there any that are running for office.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Jan 25 at 2015 2:44 PM

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MAJ Laurie H., its coming look at the Congress, slowly but surely and surely but slowly. I estimate by 2035 we will see a President from OIF, OEF, OND in the White House as POTHUS.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Jan 25 at 2015 4:35 PM

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I doubt it because most presidential candidates are professional politicians and have been groomed over years and years by their respective party. Could it happen yes likely most likely not.

Response by MSG Scott Swank made Jan 26 at 2015 12:34 PM

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Unfortantly Americans more and more don't care if a candidate has servered in the military or not. That is evident by noting no President elected since WWII (GH Bush)....

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Jan 26 at 2015 1:23 PM

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If we ever see another President who has served in the military, it will be somebody who has been very successful in wars that put his name in the public eye. His name will be very recognizable to the everyone. It doesn't look like we have anyone out there in the near future.

Response by PV2 Violet Case made Jan 27 at 2015 12:26 AM

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I kind of feel all presidents who run to control a country should have been in the war defending that country. It shows their honor to our country and their willingness to die for our country if that is what it takes. And it also makes them no what war is all about before they jump in and say lets just go there and be in a war. I think maybe at least 4 yrs at minimum should be served to run for president.

Response by 2d Lt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2015 11:09 PM

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I would say the odds are pretty good. But we're a long ways away from it. OEF/OIF is a little different than Vietnam because American culture adopted the "Support troops; not the war" catch phrase when the military flew into Iraq in '03. Maybe 15-20 years from now?

Response by Capt Andrew Cosgrove made Jan 29 at 2015 11:06 AM

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Saw Combat? I don't know. Someone who served in theater? I think with near certainty, yes. We already have seen many veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan being elected to Congress.

The issue is, can a veteran of these wars maintain their integrity and honor and still be elected President.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 29 at 2015 5:34 PM

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LT.
I think the answer is a 100% yes. The were some amazing men and women who served and saw combat in OEF and OIF. Many of them have stayed in to continue their successful military careers while other have gone on to successful positions as corporate leaders, entrepreneurs and politicians.

Case in point. 37 year old US Senator, Tom Cotton. Served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Harvard Law Degree. As an infantry officer and platoon leader with the 101st Airborne Division. He's already the youngest current US Senator. I think he definitely has an excellent chance if his career continues to rise.

Response by SPC George Long made Jan 31 at 2015 1:51 AM

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Well Maam the Constitution requires that you be 35 and a natural born citizen. When you hit 35 throw your hat in the ring. Speaking as someone who lost friends and family from 1968 till just recently it is my opinion the average citizen does not want to be represented by someone better than they are. Therefore I think the chance is thin. Maybe Lindsey Graham? Maybe the first Female President. I don't know but as much as I'd like to see it Jody aint interested. It just points out his weaknesses. I would have voted for Faith ! My wifes cousin.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2015 6:14 PM

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I'd bet on Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton. He was a platoon leader. Entered the army branched infantry after earning law degree at Harvard. Youngest currently serving Senator. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R Ca) is also recent veteran. He took an unpleasant beat down from Gen Odierno when Ray was testifying to Hunter's committee.

Response by CW4 Dan Cady made Feb 6 at 2015 9:28 AM

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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/02/246230-2-quizzing-obama-official-radical-islam-sen-tom-cotton-goes-hard-gitmo-detainees/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Politics

Maybe we found someone? Senator Tom Cotton!

America's First Afghan & Iraq War Vet to Become Senator Lights Up the Obama Administration on...

He's a Harvard Law grad who served combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 9:26 PM

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I'd rather have one who served in Vietnam. Then he can relate to Washington being a Cluster F**K!!!

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 11 at 2015 1:01 AM

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Eventually yes. It's a matter of time

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Aug 11 at 2015 1:26 AM

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Tammy Duckworth?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 8:17 AM

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Lets start a write-in campaign... Martha McSally for President!

https://mcsally.house.gov/

Congresswoman Martha McSally

Representing the 2nd District of Arizona

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 11:21 AM

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Yes, if Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas would run then yes! He is a great man and so pro-military he wouldn't let us be gutted out as a force, worry about our pay, or retirement!

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 11:29 AM

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Yes, as a country boy I loved the field, camping, digging fighting positions, and live fire exercises!

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 11:34 AM

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This is another BS way for the Obama administration to try and infringe on the 2nd Amendment and take people's weapons especially Veterans cause they know we won't take certain things laying down!

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Aug 11 at 2015 12:17 PM

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There is no doubt that the US will have a OEF or OIF, and lets also include the new Low Intensity Conflict (LIC) brewing, President in the future.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Aug 11 at 2015 12:37 PM

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I like both Powel and West....but doubt they would ever run.

Response by SFC Robert Wheeler made Aug 11 at 2015 7:16 PM

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Will we? I think those chances are good considering we have veterans already serving in many levels of government. The deeper question is, does it give that candidate any special creds?

Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 13 at 2015 5:08 AM

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I doubt it. Given our recent history, veterans don't seem to be overly popular Presidential candidates.

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Aug 13 at 2015 9:11 AM

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MAJ Laurie H. I think it is inevitable a Veteran of OIF or OEF will run for President. Whether they get elected is another story. Are you considering a run? :)

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 13 at 2015 12:52 PM

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I read something like 90% of the presidents served in the military.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Aug 13 at 2015 1:07 PM

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I agree with what Capt Private RallyPoint Member said. Not to start a debate about right or wrong, but look what happened to John Kerry. His Military Service, something which should be an honorable attribute, was made into a mockery. I think that the average American takes for granted that the brave men and women in our Armed Forces are going to be there. How many homeless vets are there? How many commit suicide every day? The average American doesn't give two shits about Service Members. Unless the U.S. is attacked, or it hits close to home. Then everyone throws up their yellow ribbons and starts the parade. I am very cynical about this. I think that some of the brave men and women who have served would make fine candidates for office. I also don't think that a fine candidate matters unless that fine candidate is both a financial machine, and supported by the Republicrats.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made Aug 13 at 2015 3:03 PM

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I hope so... I pray so... but it seems like the "presidential gene pool" gets shallower every election...

Already two of the front runners are people who are relatives of past presidents (who don't exactly have awe inspiring track records)/

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Aug 13 at 2015 3:11 PM

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Maybe....but will probably be a few years!

Response by SGT Scott Bell made Aug 30 at 2015 9:31 AM

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Response by SSG Kelly Ferguson made Nov 19 at 2015 4:25 PM

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We need one

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Nov 20 at 2015 10:29 AM

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Maybe, but who knows.

Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Nov 20 at 2015 10:30 PM

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Can you really say that W served?

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Nov 22 at 2015 2:34 PM

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MAJ Laurie H. I would say we can count on it. If not in 4 years, then definitely in 8. Most likely a General Officer from the Army or Marine Corps would be my guess.

Response by SPC Brian Bay made Nov 23 at 2015 6:18 PM

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I'm thinking that my old Sqdn Cdr from 1-14th Cav (The then LTC Dana JH Pittard) now Major General Pittard, climbed the ranks rather quickly and has held some very senior level positions throughout the later portion of his career. I cannot comment on his political aspirations as I'm not privy to them on a personal or professional level. However it would not surprise me to see that he enters some form of political profession. He has the personality and the diplomatic skill sets where he is very influential as a leader.

I understand that officers in command positions often have to play the political political game in order to advance their careers (it's just the nature of the beast) and it doesn't always go over so well with the enlisted folks; albeit coming across as unauthentic, canned or just going through the motions.

What I can say is that when he was out commander, he lead by example. There was only one soldier who beat him on a PT test in our entire Squadron (an E-4 SPC who competed on the 17-21 age scale and extended it to compare apples to apples). LTC Pittard (rank at the time) did not hide behind the age technicality. He graciously gave the soldier his personal congratulations and recognized him at a Squadron formation. He gave credit where credit was due and I respect that in a leader.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 8 at 2016 12:36 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Duckworth

Her, I think, no?

Tammy Duckworth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ladda Tammy Duckworth (born March 12, 1968) is an American politician who has been the U.S. Representative for Illinois's 8th congressional district since 2013. A Democrat, she is the first Asian American woman elected to Congress in Illinois, the first disabled woman to be elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, and the first member of Congress born in Thailand. Her father, an American, and her mother of Chinese descent were working and...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 8 at 2016 12:38 PM

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I quite honestly think she'd be the most perfect one possible, you know? Of course that's my own thought, certainly, still, I kinda think she'd be pretty much ideal from that perspective, candidly....

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Sep 13 at 2016 2:19 PM

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Many of those Soldiers did their share if "shit burn detail"....practice for cleaning up American politics.

Response by SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter made Nov 23 at 2017 11:52 PM

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Let's pray and hope one day we will.

Peace!