Will the timing of an incomplete change of rater NCOER (to take a higher position within the Bn) impact my promotion chances?

2016-04-23T09:43:58-04:00

So I've just been transferred to take a higher position within the BN, with the E7 board coming up will that change of rater NCOER not being complete yet hurt my chances for promotion? Looking through the regulations and can't find anything about it.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Apr 23 at 2016 9:50 AM

2016-04-23T09:50:39-04:00

SSG Private RallyPoint Member In my opinion, it won't hurt as long as its within career progression and if you worked as a E-7 it can do nothing but help. Do a COMPLETE THE RECORD NCOER in your new position. This will improve your chances for promotion, especially in a higher HQ and position. Good Luck!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2016 10:40 AM

2016-04-23T10:40:34-04:00

Read the Milper message about the board it gives some guidance... I hope that helps

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Apr 23 at 2016 1:38 PM

2016-04-23T13:38:59-04:00

If you have a new duty position, THAT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN RATED FOR, you can receive a Complete the Record NCOER. I never received and NCOER rating me for a duty position higher than my pay grade, so I personally don't think it is as big a deal as some people think. If your records are complete. You have a current DA Photo (you would be surprised how many don't do ti). Your ERB is up to date and IN ORDER (ensure all past units and duty positions mirror your NCOERs). Your NCOERs are all 1/1s, you have nothing else you can do but pray because it is in the Promotion Board's hands. They look for different things on each board. You won't know what they are concentrating on until they release the board results.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Apr 23 at 2016 4:18 PM

2016-04-23T16:18:49-04:00

As long as you perform your duty as expected or exceed standards their will be no issue.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2016 1:48 AM

2016-04-24T01:48:59-04:00

Only a relief for cause will hurt. If you are concerned you have not had ample time to earn a good rating you should request a letter of continuity instead of a COR. However it is the rater's option.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Apr 24 at 2016 7:13 AM

2016-04-24T07:13:51-04:00

SSG Private RallyPoint Member Read the reg, see if it applies to your specific situation and timing, but the Compleat the record NCOER was designed just for what you describe.
AR 623-3 http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r623_3.pdf will guide you in the process.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2016 12:21 PM

2016-04-24T12:21:40-04:00

I think if the position is reflected correctly on your ERB it will do, if you have not made any major accomplishments in that position. I chose not to do a complete the record when I had my look, because of my lack of confidence in the Rater and Sr Rater to reflect anything worth making an impact. The choice is yours. My choice did not hurt because I got selected first look. And by the way after they did do my Eval after, it was just as I thought, a down play of the significance of what I accomplished

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2016 1:18 PM

2016-05-03T13:18:11-04:00

No but trying to add it could. Even if you have the time in the slot to be rated, if your not getting that silver bullet then it is almost a waste. Remember the new NCOER has a rater profile and he can only "top block" a small percent. Have you done everything it takes to earn that top block? if not then you are asking someone to give you just a "regular" NCOER. Hope that makes some kind of sense. Lol hope all is well.