Posted on May 18, 2017
Will the Army cover an injury that occurs during a PRT if the service member is undergoing MEB/PEB?
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I started the MEB/PEB process back in October. I have been told time and time again by my leadership that I am NOT allowed to do PRT because if I injure myself the Army will not cover it? Is this true or can I still do PRT? I'm asking because I thoroughly enjoy exercising and, since I stopped, I have put on quite a few extra pounds. I'd like to be able to start doing PRT again. All responses are appreciated but provided regulations would be great to see, too, as I'm planning on meeting with my 1SG soon to discuss the situation. I have a P3 profile but it's for BH and nothing physically limiting. Thank you, in advance, for your responses.
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The general concern is not that "it wont be covered"
The concern is delay.
You are being evaluated for a known, documented, recorded set of medical issues.
for set of medical issues...
A new temporary issue like a cold will not effect the MEB....
A new issue like a physical limiting lower extremity injury, be it sprain, strain, or fracture would likely cause a new medical evaluation to need be done.
limiting the possible injury activities is in effect HELPING you get processed as quickly as the MEB process can go (which is not quick to begin with)
The unit also has a vested interest in you not being injured,,, they are needed a replacement for you, a SM taking a slot in the unit that is not a unit fully capable asset (nothing personal, just that a SM doing an MEB is not a unit asset ...just a fact, not a bash) They need your MEB to be done efficiently and as quick as possible, 1st because thats best for you so you can move on, 2nd so the unit can get a replacement.
All that said..work with your leadership on what PRT you can do that is low impact and has a low chance if causing injury
The concern is delay.
You are being evaluated for a known, documented, recorded set of medical issues.
for set of medical issues...
A new temporary issue like a cold will not effect the MEB....
A new issue like a physical limiting lower extremity injury, be it sprain, strain, or fracture would likely cause a new medical evaluation to need be done.
limiting the possible injury activities is in effect HELPING you get processed as quickly as the MEB process can go (which is not quick to begin with)
The unit also has a vested interest in you not being injured,,, they are needed a replacement for you, a SM taking a slot in the unit that is not a unit fully capable asset (nothing personal, just that a SM doing an MEB is not a unit asset ...just a fact, not a bash) They need your MEB to be done efficiently and as quick as possible, 1st because thats best for you so you can move on, 2nd so the unit can get a replacement.
All that said..work with your leadership on what PRT you can do that is low impact and has a low chance if causing injury
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No profile? Then you are not prohibited from exercising or doing PRT.
Did they order you not to do PRT, or just "tell" you?
Did they order you not to do PRT, or just "tell" you?
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1SG Healy,
My First Sergeant told me that I can't do organized PRT anymore but the profile that I do have isn't for anything physical, as it is a BH profile.
My First Sergeant told me that I can't do organized PRT anymore but the profile that I do have isn't for anything physical, as it is a BH profile.
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PFC (Join to see) - Then you can exercise, but not with the unit in PT formation.
Your 1SG is attempting to shield your commander from liability should you aggravate your condition during a unit training event.
Be smart about it, though. You are going to have to live with any health problems you have forever.
Your 1SG is attempting to shield your commander from liability should you aggravate your condition during a unit training event.
Be smart about it, though. You are going to have to live with any health problems you have forever.
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1SG (Join to see) - Roger that, First Sergeant. That makes sense. Thank you, First Sergeant.
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There are no limitations put on soldiers or commanders after they finish their Phase 2 physical. ONLY if you have a profile with limitations clearly outlined. Otherwise you can still participate in PT and training activities.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/phase-physicals-when-completed-does-it-place-limitations-on-soldiers/article_54279128-10be-559d-9e56-1606cb909838.html
So if you didn't have a physical profile limiting you, then you could still participate in PT and training activities. But it does say your commander can make the decision to not allow you. But until you're discharged you still have to be able to pass an APFT and make height/weight standards.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/phase-physicals-when-completed-does-it-place-limitations-on-soldiers/article_54279128-10be-559d-9e56-1606cb909838.html
So if you didn't have a physical profile limiting you, then you could still participate in PT and training activities. But it does say your commander can make the decision to not allow you. But until you're discharged you still have to be able to pass an APFT and make height/weight standards.
Phase 2 physicals: When completed, does it place limitations on Soldiers or commanders?
Here’s the situation: “Spc. John Doe” is preparing to exit the Army within the next two months and he has just completed his Phase 2 physical. One of Doe’s battle
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What if you're in that process already (phase 2 completed) but you are also getting chapter, (and you are about to clear soon) wouldn't be helpful for the SM to just not do PT at all?
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
PFC (Join to see) - This is from 2017. Did you read the link?
"The bottom line up front is this: There are no limitations placed upon Soldiers or commanders after a Phase 2 physical has been completed unless the Soldier has a profile with limitations that clearly and thoroughly outline those limitations. Soldiers are required to continue to participate in PT. There is no regulation that supports the myth that they can’t participate.
In addition to PT, Soldiers can also continue to participate in unit training activities. The decision whether a Soldier participates, or does not participate in unit training activities, rests solely with the commander."
It's up to the commander ultimately. If your commander says you don't have to, then you don't. If they don't give that exemption, then you do. If you don't have a profile that has limitations, and your leadership hasn't exempted you, you're showing up to PT and participating. It's pretty simple.
"The bottom line up front is this: There are no limitations placed upon Soldiers or commanders after a Phase 2 physical has been completed unless the Soldier has a profile with limitations that clearly and thoroughly outline those limitations. Soldiers are required to continue to participate in PT. There is no regulation that supports the myth that they can’t participate.
In addition to PT, Soldiers can also continue to participate in unit training activities. The decision whether a Soldier participates, or does not participate in unit training activities, rests solely with the commander."
It's up to the commander ultimately. If your commander says you don't have to, then you don't. If they don't give that exemption, then you do. If you don't have a profile that has limitations, and your leadership hasn't exempted you, you're showing up to PT and participating. It's pretty simple.
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Since you started an MEB/PEB, you should have been given a profile. If you have said profile, what are your limitations?
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SSG Livingston,
My First Sergeant told me that I can't do organized PRT anymore but the profile that I do have isn't for anything physical, as it is a BH profile.
My First Sergeant told me that I can't do organized PRT anymore but the profile that I do have isn't for anything physical, as it is a BH profile.
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