Posted on Oct 31, 2015
Will Jim Webb embark on a serious Independent run at the Presidency?
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(CNN)Jim Webb and his close advisers have started to look closely at ballot access dates for the former Virginia senator's possible independent presidential run, according to aides and advisers, and feels "confident" that if he were to run, he would be successful.
Webb dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination last month, announcing to a room full of journalists that he would be exploring an independent bid.
Like he did during his run for the Democratic nomination, the former Virginia senator is keeping a close circle of advisers that includes his wife, Hong Le Webb.
"He has tasked us to do a feasibility study on how to get on enough state ballots for a mathematical chance at 270 electoral votes," spokesman Craig Crawford told CNN on Thursday. "That's in progress."
Webb dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination last month, announcing to a room full of journalists that he would be exploring an independent bid.
Like he did during his run for the Democratic nomination, the former Virginia senator is keeping a close circle of advisers that includes his wife, Hong Le Webb.
"He has tasked us to do a feasibility study on how to get on enough state ballots for a mathematical chance at 270 electoral votes," spokesman Craig Crawford told CNN on Thursday. "That's in progress."
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Jim Webb eyeing decision on independent run by new year - CNNPolitics.com
Jim Webb and his close advisers have started to look closely at ballot access dates for the former Virginia senator's possible independent presidential run, according to aides and advisers, and feels "confident" that if he were to run, he would be successful.
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http://linkis.com/com/o8gO5
This is the guy we need, not only because he is the best but also to show that people actually care about the country.
Besides graduating from Annapolis at the top of his class, being first in his class of 243 lieutenants at the Basic School, being a platoon and company commander and winning a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts in Viet Nam, he was a committee general counsel, congressional staffer, official in the Defense Department, SecNav and senator, he is a NY Times best selling author, has the screenwriting credit for "Rules of Engagement" and he even has a bleeping EMMY.
But the thing that is so awesome is that he resigned as SeNav in protest of what the SecDef asked him to do. It blew me away at the time. Who does that? The story is that the SecDef Carlucci asked him to misrepresent facts to the Congress. He laid it on Carlucci at the time. Awesome. Specifically he was asked to misrepresent the usefulness of a new class of Navy warships.
Senator Webb is exactly what we need.
This is the guy we need, not only because he is the best but also to show that people actually care about the country.
Besides graduating from Annapolis at the top of his class, being first in his class of 243 lieutenants at the Basic School, being a platoon and company commander and winning a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts in Viet Nam, he was a committee general counsel, congressional staffer, official in the Defense Department, SecNav and senator, he is a NY Times best selling author, has the screenwriting credit for "Rules of Engagement" and he even has a bleeping EMMY.
But the thing that is so awesome is that he resigned as SeNav in protest of what the SecDef asked him to do. It blew me away at the time. Who does that? The story is that the SecDef Carlucci asked him to misrepresent facts to the Congress. He laid it on Carlucci at the time. Awesome. Specifically he was asked to misrepresent the usefulness of a new class of Navy warships.
Senator Webb is exactly what we need.
Is it too soon for a “Webb for President” bandwagon? Of course it is. But Webb’s landslide win in a Southern state—well, make that a pre-recount third o
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From 2008 but resonating now:
"A wall in Jim Webb’s Washington office is filled with a collection of archival photographs, the centerpiece of which is a striking black-and-white portrait captioned “Appalachian Man.” The photograph’s anonymous subject is a workingman who could be forty or sixty. His weathered face, vaguely handsome beneath a thick felt hat, is fixed in a glare suggesting skepticism, even disdain. Whoever Appalachian Man was, his image has found the perfect setting.
Webb has been thinking and writing about such people for forty years. When he turned to writing after serving as a Marine infantry officer in Vietnam, he became obsessed with the American cultural divide, and the fact that his people, the Scots-Irish, stood so firmly on one side. The descendants of the Ulster warrior clans that settled the Appalachian frontier were a proud, ornery lot, deeply patriotic and always ready for a fight. They invented country music, fostered the form of democracy named for their kinsman Andrew Jackson, and supplied generals on both sides of the Civil War. In “Born Fighting,” his 2004 book about the Scots-Irish influence in American life, Webb summarized the culture’s core ethos: Fight. Sing. Drink. Pray.
Webb has cast himself on both sides of the cultural divide. After Vietnam, he began identifying himself as a Republican, and eventually became Ronald Reagan’s Navy Secretary. “There were a lot of people, like myself, who got really disillusioned by the Democratic Party getting away from its message of taking care of working people, and becoming the anti-military party rather than the antiwar party,” he told me recently. “There was this huge group, this bellwether group that was sitting there. And after the Democratic Party started obscuring its message they look up and say, At the top, there’s no real difference between the parties, no real difference except at least these people”—the Republicans—“are gonna protect God and guns. And they do values-vote.”
Webb eventually became disgusted by the Republicans’ manipulation of those values voters, through what he calls “Karl Rove tactics.”
“The Karl Rove approach is very simple,” he says now. “It’s just three things: He’s not like you, he doesn’t understand you, you can’t trust him. Our guy is like you, our guy understands you, you can trust him. That’s the whole formula.” Webb became a Democrat and ran for office, motivated partly by the challenge of attracting disenchanted former Democrats back into the Party, and of moving the Party back toward them.
An Obama-Webb ticket would certainly have helped Obama with some of the constituencies most wary of him, but when Webb was asked to undergo vetting for consideration as Obama’s running mate he declined. “I know what it’s like to be in an Administration,” he told me. “You owe the people at the top your absolute loyalty. I did it for four years.” Webb might well have chafed in an Obama Administration. He was for offshore drilling—or, at least, he favored allowing Virginia to decide whether its coasts should be explored—when Obama and most of the Party still opposed it. Webb advocates the exploitation of America’s vast coal fields, saying, “We’re sitting on the Saudi Arabia of coal.” Obama used that same term when he spoke in Lebanon, emphasizing the need to develop clean coal technology. But earlier this year he referred to coal as “dirty energy,” and his running mate, Joe Biden, said recently in Ohio, “No coal plants here in America. Build ’em, if they’re going to build ’em, over there”—in China.
Webb is freer to fashion his own political identity from his position in the Senate. “My prototype really is Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was able to combine an academic, intellectual career and a government career, really put new ideas out there, and think. I think I’ve been able to do that. And I don’t want to stop doing that. I’ve got a lot of ideas that don’t fit into either party, really.”
Recalling Mudcat Saunders’s advice for Obama, I asked Webb whether Obama had sought his counsel about breaking down cultural barriers in rural America. “I’ve done it a few times with him,” Webb says. “He’s been pretty busy over the last eighteen months, but a good time is when we’ve had stack votes on the Senate floor and we sit there for an hour, hour and a half, and just sit down and talk about different things.” Webb said he urged Obama to read an opinion article Webb wrote for the Wall Street Journal in 2004, in which he argued that “the greatest realignment in modern politics would take place rather quickly if the right national leader found a way to bring the Scots-Irish and African-Americans to the same table, and so to redefine a formula that has consciously set them apart for the past two centuries.”
“We had some good talks about this,” Webb told me. “And I think he really gets it. I think it’s one of the reasons he has pushed where he has been pushing.”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/10/06/the-appalachian-problem
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"A wall in Jim Webb’s Washington office is filled with a collection of archival photographs, the centerpiece of which is a striking black-and-white portrait captioned “Appalachian Man.” The photograph’s anonymous subject is a workingman who could be forty or sixty. His weathered face, vaguely handsome beneath a thick felt hat, is fixed in a glare suggesting skepticism, even disdain. Whoever Appalachian Man was, his image has found the perfect setting.
Webb has been thinking and writing about such people for forty years. When he turned to writing after serving as a Marine infantry officer in Vietnam, he became obsessed with the American cultural divide, and the fact that his people, the Scots-Irish, stood so firmly on one side. The descendants of the Ulster warrior clans that settled the Appalachian frontier were a proud, ornery lot, deeply patriotic and always ready for a fight. They invented country music, fostered the form of democracy named for their kinsman Andrew Jackson, and supplied generals on both sides of the Civil War. In “Born Fighting,” his 2004 book about the Scots-Irish influence in American life, Webb summarized the culture’s core ethos: Fight. Sing. Drink. Pray.
Webb has cast himself on both sides of the cultural divide. After Vietnam, he began identifying himself as a Republican, and eventually became Ronald Reagan’s Navy Secretary. “There were a lot of people, like myself, who got really disillusioned by the Democratic Party getting away from its message of taking care of working people, and becoming the anti-military party rather than the antiwar party,” he told me recently. “There was this huge group, this bellwether group that was sitting there. And after the Democratic Party started obscuring its message they look up and say, At the top, there’s no real difference between the parties, no real difference except at least these people”—the Republicans—“are gonna protect God and guns. And they do values-vote.”
Webb eventually became disgusted by the Republicans’ manipulation of those values voters, through what he calls “Karl Rove tactics.”
“The Karl Rove approach is very simple,” he says now. “It’s just three things: He’s not like you, he doesn’t understand you, you can’t trust him. Our guy is like you, our guy understands you, you can trust him. That’s the whole formula.” Webb became a Democrat and ran for office, motivated partly by the challenge of attracting disenchanted former Democrats back into the Party, and of moving the Party back toward them.
An Obama-Webb ticket would certainly have helped Obama with some of the constituencies most wary of him, but when Webb was asked to undergo vetting for consideration as Obama’s running mate he declined. “I know what it’s like to be in an Administration,” he told me. “You owe the people at the top your absolute loyalty. I did it for four years.” Webb might well have chafed in an Obama Administration. He was for offshore drilling—or, at least, he favored allowing Virginia to decide whether its coasts should be explored—when Obama and most of the Party still opposed it. Webb advocates the exploitation of America’s vast coal fields, saying, “We’re sitting on the Saudi Arabia of coal.” Obama used that same term when he spoke in Lebanon, emphasizing the need to develop clean coal technology. But earlier this year he referred to coal as “dirty energy,” and his running mate, Joe Biden, said recently in Ohio, “No coal plants here in America. Build ’em, if they’re going to build ’em, over there”—in China.
Webb is freer to fashion his own political identity from his position in the Senate. “My prototype really is Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was able to combine an academic, intellectual career and a government career, really put new ideas out there, and think. I think I’ve been able to do that. And I don’t want to stop doing that. I’ve got a lot of ideas that don’t fit into either party, really.”
Recalling Mudcat Saunders’s advice for Obama, I asked Webb whether Obama had sought his counsel about breaking down cultural barriers in rural America. “I’ve done it a few times with him,” Webb says. “He’s been pretty busy over the last eighteen months, but a good time is when we’ve had stack votes on the Senate floor and we sit there for an hour, hour and a half, and just sit down and talk about different things.” Webb said he urged Obama to read an opinion article Webb wrote for the Wall Street Journal in 2004, in which he argued that “the greatest realignment in modern politics would take place rather quickly if the right national leader found a way to bring the Scots-Irish and African-Americans to the same table, and so to redefine a formula that has consciously set them apart for the past two centuries.”
“We had some good talks about this,” Webb told me. “And I think he really gets it. I think it’s one of the reasons he has pushed where he has been pushing.”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/10/06/the-appalachian-problem
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The Appalachian Problem - The New Yorker
Obama goes to rural Virginia.
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Great credentials but where does he stand on the big issues? Pro 2nd amendment or not? Pro border control or not? Pro constitution or not? Anyone have a summation of his stance on the important issues? Is he conservative independent or liberal independent? For big government or for less government...I haven't even started reviewing republican candidates yet but I still don't think an Independent can win and I still fear a strong Independent running would only help the democrats and hurt the republicans...by taking votes from the lesser of the two substantiated evils.
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Capt Walter Miller
He is very pro-second amendment. One of his aids was arrested for carrying a hand gun through Senate security. The Senators can carry in the Senate. Their aids may not. The aid had Sen. Webb's back pack.
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Capt Walter Miller
Economic Fairness & Social Justice
Advocates Call for End to War on Drugs
March 15, 2012
by Ellen Ratner, Talk Radio News Service
Webb: “Recent Headlines” Illuminate the Need to Fix Current Tax System
January 18, 2012
Senator Jim Webb, Official Press Release
Commentary: Land of the Free? 1 of 3 Are Arrested by Age 23!
December 19, 2011
by Tony Newman, The Huffington Post
Sen. Webb: Good Cause
November 7, 2011
by Times-Dispatch Staff, The Richmond Times-Dispatch
Sen. Webb, Police Discuss Drug Problem
September 27, 2011
by Jenay Tate, The Coalfield Progress
Jim Webb’s Criminal Justice Crusade
September 11, 2011,
by Andrew Romano, Newsweek/Daily Beast
Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege
July 23, 2010
by James Webb, The Wall Street Journal
We Helped the Bankers. Now It’s Their Turn.
March 21, 2010
by Jim Webb, The Washington Post
It’s Time To Change the Law
March 29, 2009
by Senator Jim Webb, Parade Magazine
Why We Must Fix Our Prisons
March 29, 2009
by Senator Jim Webb, Parade Magazine
Webb Sets His Sights on Prison Reform
December 29, 2008
by Sandhya Somashekhar, The Washington Post
Class Struggle: American Workers Have A Chance to be Heard
November 15, 2006
by Jim Webb, The Wall Street Journal
In Defense of Joe Six-Pack
June 5, 1995
by James Webb, The Wall Street Journal
What We Can Learn From Japanese Prisons
January 15, 1984
by James Webb, Parade Magazine
Advocates Call for End to War on Drugs
March 15, 2012
by Ellen Ratner, Talk Radio News Service
Webb: “Recent Headlines” Illuminate the Need to Fix Current Tax System
January 18, 2012
Senator Jim Webb, Official Press Release
Commentary: Land of the Free? 1 of 3 Are Arrested by Age 23!
December 19, 2011
by Tony Newman, The Huffington Post
Sen. Webb: Good Cause
November 7, 2011
by Times-Dispatch Staff, The Richmond Times-Dispatch
Sen. Webb, Police Discuss Drug Problem
September 27, 2011
by Jenay Tate, The Coalfield Progress
Jim Webb’s Criminal Justice Crusade
September 11, 2011,
by Andrew Romano, Newsweek/Daily Beast
Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege
July 23, 2010
by James Webb, The Wall Street Journal
We Helped the Bankers. Now It’s Their Turn.
March 21, 2010
by Jim Webb, The Washington Post
It’s Time To Change the Law
March 29, 2009
by Senator Jim Webb, Parade Magazine
Why We Must Fix Our Prisons
March 29, 2009
by Senator Jim Webb, Parade Magazine
Webb Sets His Sights on Prison Reform
December 29, 2008
by Sandhya Somashekhar, The Washington Post
Class Struggle: American Workers Have A Chance to be Heard
November 15, 2006
by Jim Webb, The Wall Street Journal
In Defense of Joe Six-Pack
June 5, 1995
by James Webb, The Wall Street Journal
What We Can Learn From Japanese Prisons
January 15, 1984
by James Webb, Parade Magazine
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Capt Walter Miller
Hillary is not pretending to be the victim" she is pretending to be a "fighter". . which is worse.
The sexism meme that Hillary fabricated 10 days after the first debate is being discussed as Hillary's "playing the victim". But what she is really doing is pretending to "stand up" and "not be silenced" when nobody is trying to silence her. She created the story not to make herself look like a victim, but to make herself look like a "fighter". Playing the victim is damaging to the real cause but is rooted in reality - there are real victims and sexism is a continual battle on all fronts. But pretending to be a fighter in a fake battle is something that has much worse implicationsÂ
If you look her pattern of inventing false battles and taking fake "tough" stances while not showing up for the real battles on political issues we should assume that this will continue.Â
Her support for the iraq war is a perfect instance - driven by the need to appear "tough" rather than the real toughness required to stand against the war. On a smaller scale her wallowing in endless personal "battles" with Republicans rather than standing up to them on policy is the same pantomime of "toughness"Â
Anyone who is a real "fighter" recognizes this. Real fighters don't smile as if winning a game when they talk about a personal point of sexism because the larger issue remains, or throw out "zingers" like "we came, we saw, he died" when discussing a war the killed a few million people and bankrupted our country.
- Democratic Underground
The sexism meme that Hillary fabricated 10 days after the first debate is being discussed as Hillary's "playing the victim". But what she is really doing is pretending to "stand up" and "not be silenced" when nobody is trying to silence her. She created the story not to make herself look like a victim, but to make herself look like a "fighter". Playing the victim is damaging to the real cause but is rooted in reality - there are real victims and sexism is a continual battle on all fronts. But pretending to be a fighter in a fake battle is something that has much worse implicationsÂ
If you look her pattern of inventing false battles and taking fake "tough" stances while not showing up for the real battles on political issues we should assume that this will continue.Â
Her support for the iraq war is a perfect instance - driven by the need to appear "tough" rather than the real toughness required to stand against the war. On a smaller scale her wallowing in endless personal "battles" with Republicans rather than standing up to them on policy is the same pantomime of "toughness"Â
Anyone who is a real "fighter" recognizes this. Real fighters don't smile as if winning a game when they talk about a personal point of sexism because the larger issue remains, or throw out "zingers" like "we came, we saw, he died" when discussing a war the killed a few million people and bankrupted our country.
- Democratic Underground
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Jim Webb, Falls Church, Virginia. 43,027 likes · 18,842 talking about this. Leadership you can trust. Paid for by Jim Webb 2016
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Capt Walter Miller
Senator Webb is asking even for $5.00 donations on his website -this weekend- at http://www.webb2016.com
Just keep thinking 'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
It's too scary.
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Just keep thinking 'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
'HRC as CIC'.
It's too scary.
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Capt Walter Miller
He's a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but he defends Roe v. Wade. As a Republican and a decorated Vietnam War hero, he was secretary of the Navy under President Ronald Reagan and resigned in protest over proposed cuts to defense.
Webb believes unions are critical for American workers to maintain livable wages, and he applauds the Supreme Court's decision legalizing gay marriage. He wants a secure border but supports a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
His wide-ranging views would seem to fit well with many Americans, but pundits have pointed out that he lacks charisma and charm. He failed to inspire much support, so a week after the debate, Webb announced he would no longer be a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination. He said he would consider running as an independent.
That's disheartening because of what it says about us. How much weight should be placed on charisma compared to credentials - consistency in voting record, knowledge of the issues, ability to work with both parties? How much power should our antiquated two-party system have?
Given the influence of special interests, the divisive political climate and that only about 60 percent of eligible voters actually vote, I see little reason to believe candidates will be judged on their substance.
Many of us are losing ourselves to a superficial label when we should be evaluating candidates from our own perspectives and experiences. The goal should be to think independently and rationally about prioritizing the country's needs.
Instead, we have nonstop political analyses that tell us what we want to hear. The media have become subliminal kingmakers, deciding which candidates get attention and convincing us that, months before the election, data from polls show certain votes will be wasted votes.
I have no idea whether Webb will run for president as an independent. But I am sick and tired of well-meaning, overly qualified candidates being sidelined because of an increasingly ugly electoral process fueled by infinite campaign perks and money from special interests. It's time to take back our democracy at every level. No apologies.
Mark S. Askew Sr. is a business consultant in the construction industry. He lives in Norfolk.
Webb believes unions are critical for American workers to maintain livable wages, and he applauds the Supreme Court's decision legalizing gay marriage. He wants a secure border but supports a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
His wide-ranging views would seem to fit well with many Americans, but pundits have pointed out that he lacks charisma and charm. He failed to inspire much support, so a week after the debate, Webb announced he would no longer be a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination. He said he would consider running as an independent.
That's disheartening because of what it says about us. How much weight should be placed on charisma compared to credentials - consistency in voting record, knowledge of the issues, ability to work with both parties? How much power should our antiquated two-party system have?
Given the influence of special interests, the divisive political climate and that only about 60 percent of eligible voters actually vote, I see little reason to believe candidates will be judged on their substance.
Many of us are losing ourselves to a superficial label when we should be evaluating candidates from our own perspectives and experiences. The goal should be to think independently and rationally about prioritizing the country's needs.
Instead, we have nonstop political analyses that tell us what we want to hear. The media have become subliminal kingmakers, deciding which candidates get attention and convincing us that, months before the election, data from polls show certain votes will be wasted votes.
I have no idea whether Webb will run for president as an independent. But I am sick and tired of well-meaning, overly qualified candidates being sidelined because of an increasingly ugly electoral process fueled by infinite campaign perks and money from special interests. It's time to take back our democracy at every level. No apologies.
Mark S. Askew Sr. is a business consultant in the construction industry. He lives in Norfolk.
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Capt Walter Miller
Jim Webb is the best candidate running for president -- by far.
Besides graduating from Annapolis at the top of his class, being first in his class of 243 lieutenants at the Basic School, being a platoon and company commander and winning a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts in Viet Nam, he was a committee general counsel, congressional staffer, official in the Defense Department, SecNav and senator, he is a NY Times best selling author, has the screenwriting credit for "Rules of Engagement" and he even has a bleeping EMMY.
But the thing that is so awesome is that he resigned as SeNav in protest of what the SecDef asked him to do. It blew me away at the time. Who does that? The story is that the SecDef Carlucci asked him to misrepresent facts to the Congress. He laid it on Carlucci at the time. Awesome. Specifically he was asked to misrepresent the usefulness of a new class of Navy warships.
Senator Webb is exactly what we need.
Besides graduating from Annapolis at the top of his class, being first in his class of 243 lieutenants at the Basic School, being a platoon and company commander and winning a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts in Viet Nam, he was a committee general counsel, congressional staffer, official in the Defense Department, SecNav and senator, he is a NY Times best selling author, has the screenwriting credit for "Rules of Engagement" and he even has a bleeping EMMY.
But the thing that is so awesome is that he resigned as SeNav in protest of what the SecDef asked him to do. It blew me away at the time. Who does that? The story is that the SecDef Carlucci asked him to misrepresent facts to the Congress. He laid it on Carlucci at the time. Awesome. Specifically he was asked to misrepresent the usefulness of a new class of Navy warships.
Senator Webb is exactly what we need.
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