Will ISIS Claim responsibility for the San Bernadino massacre today?

LTC Stephen F. — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:10:13 -0500

With the San Bernardino standoff taking place apparently by armed thugs with body armor I would not be too shocked if this is an incident that ISIS will claim responsibility for.
[Update 1900 December 2] "An FBI spokesman said it was not clear whether the incident was terror related."
DEVELOPING: Police in San Bernardino, Calif., in pursuit Wednesday of a black SUV believed to be the getaway car for three gunmen who shot up an office holiday party, murdering 14 people, reportedly killed two suspects and were pursuing a third who may have been barricaded in a home after fleeing on foot.
The shootout occurred less than two miles from the social services center where the massacre occurred hours earlier, and police sources told Fox KTTV they believe the men in the SUV were the ones responsible for the earlier attack. It appeared to bring closer to a conclusion a manhunt that began after three heavily armed gunmen "on a mission" -- and garbed in body armor -- burst into a San Bernardino social services facility and murdered in cold blood at least 14 people attending an office holiday party.
The men, who witnesses said were wearing body armor and masks, entered the Inland Regional Center just after 11 a.m. with grim precision, according to San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan. Once inside, they opened fire with rifles, shooting people in a conference room where a holiday party was taking place, authorities said. Hundreds of people were seen streaming out of the building moments later, some described by witnesses as holding their hands above their heads and even diving for cover behind cars in a parking lot.
"Up to three people entered the building and opened fire on people inside the building," Burguan said at a news conference some three hours after the first call went out. "The suspects have fled, potentially in a dark-colored SUV.
"They came prepared to do what they did as if on a mission," he added. The incident lasted less then five minutes, police said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02/as-many-as-20-shot-police-in-standoff-in-san-bernardino-calif/

Shootout follows manhunt for suspects in California massacre, 1 believed at large

As many as 20 people were shot Wednesday, and police in San Bernardino were in a standoff with at least one gunman, according to authorities.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 2 at 2015 3:16 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:16:45 -0500

If the attack ends with "martyrdom" islamic-terrorist style I would expect ISIS or al qaeda would claim credit. If this is the way it ends I hope it is treated as a very bad situation and not considered a hiccup in the war on terror
[Update 1900 2 December] "An FBI spokesman said it was not clear whether the incident was terror related. "
DEVELOPING: Police in San Bernardino, Calif., in pursuit Wednesday of a black SUV believed to be the getaway car for three gunmen who shot up an office holiday party, murdering 14 people, reportedly killed two suspects and were pursuing a third who may have been barricaded in a home after fleeing on foot.
The shootout occurred less than two miles from the social services center where the massacre occurred hours earlier, and police sources told Fox KTTV they believe the men in the SUV were the ones responsible for the earlier attack. It appeared to bring closer to a conclusion a manhunt that began after three heavily armed gunmen "on a mission" -- and garbed in body armor -- burst into a San Bernardino social services facility and murdered in cold blood at least 14 people attending an office holiday party.
The men, who witnesses said were wearing body armor and masks, entered the Inland Regional Center just after 11 a.m. with grim precision, according to San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan. Once inside, they opened fire with rifles, shooting people in a conference room where a holiday party was taking place, authorities said. Hundreds of people were seen streaming out of the building moments later, some described by witnesses as holding their hands above their heads and even diving for cover behind cars in a parking lot.
"Up to three people entered the building and opened fire on people inside the building," Burguan said at a news conference some three hours after the first call went out. "The suspects have fled, potentially in a dark-colored SUV.
"They came prepared to do what they did as if on a mission," he added. The incident lasted less then five minutes, police said.

Response by SGT David T. made Dec 2 at 2015 3:24 PM

SGT David T. — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:24:27 -0500

And yet another speech about how we need more gun control that totally fails to consider the fascist gun laws in California already on the books...

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 2 at 2015 4:02 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:02:13 -0500

Damn it-not again.

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Dec 2 at 2015 4:05 PM

SSG Todd Halverson — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:05:36 -0500

Damn another one already.....

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 2 at 2015 4:07 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:07:21 -0500

Bloody hell...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/30/there-have-been-334-days-and-351-mass-shootings-so-far-this-year/?tid=sm_fb

There have been 334 days and 351 mass shootings so far this year

There have been more mass shootings so far in 2015 than in all of 2014.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 2 at 2015 4:20 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:20:09 -0500

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 2 at 2015 4:43 PM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:43:53 -0500

It appears again that the shooters went someplace where there were likely to be no guns.

Walt

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Dec 2 at 2015 6:14 PM

MSgt Curtis Ellis — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:14:40 -0500

LTC Stephen F. Wow... I just heard about this... My thoughts and prayers go out to all affected. As far as whether this is an ISIS activity... at a holiday party... held at a social services facility... targeting a specific group...? No... for currently obvious reasons, I think this has an American motive... I will be waiting for the ownership, and if it's foreign terrorist, I will be very surprised...

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Dec 2 at 2015 9:31 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:31:43 -0500

Some people are alluding to this...but I do not know...I'm leaning towards I do not think so.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 2 at 2015 9:49 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:49:01 -0500

"NBC News investigative reporter Tom Winter reports that law enforcement sources indicate one suspect may be a man named Sayeed Farook."
Yup, Sayeed Farook sounds like a right wing Christian to me.
Give me a break you leftist weaklings. While there have been some right wing nutjobs committing mass shootings, it pales in comparison to the carnage committed by muslims on a daily basis. You won’t admit it even though you know it’s true. You’re afraid you won’t look tolerant and progressive.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/02/san-bernadino-mass-shooting/

**LIVE UPDATES*** San Bernardino Shooting: 'Suspect Down'; 'Officer Down' - Breitbart

San Bernardino law enforcement authorities report a mass shooting involving at least 20 victims just before 11 a.m. Pacific time.

Response by SGT Dana Williams made Dec 2 at 2015 9:53 PM

SGT Dana Williams — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:53:59 -0500

Reportedly, they already are.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2015 1:01 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 01:01:08 -0500

I think that ISIS will claim responsibility for any massacre, their goal is to create fear and chaos.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2015 1:17 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 01:17:36 -0500

In my units backyard. These cowards better never try this shit by me. Prayers to those affected. isil can go f*!?# a duck

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 3 at 2015 2:35 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 02:35:35 -0500

What I saw last night was that the space was being rented by an organization for a Christmas banquet.

One of the shooters apparently worked there or had worked there. This suggests not ISIS.

Walt

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 3 at 2015 8:08 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 08:08:34 -0500

I just saw that the guy left the party and came back shooting. He brought wifey along too.

Walt

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 3 at 2015 8:37 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 08:37:35 -0500

Couple Kept Tight Lid on Plans for San Bernardino Shooting

Source: NYTimes

On Wednesday morning, Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, left their 6-month-old daughter with Mr. Farook’s mother, telling her they were going out for a doctor’s appointment, a relative said.

By nightfall, it was clear that was a ruse, as the police said the couple spent the day carrying out a rampage at a social services center that killed at least 14 people before leading officers on a sprawling chase that ended with the two dead in a bloody gunfight in a suburban neighborhood.

Before the attack, Mr. Farook, 28, who was born in Illinois and whose parents are from Pakistan, joined colleagues at an annual holiday party for the San Bernardino County Public Health Department, where he worked for five years as an environmental inspector, officials said. He had attended the same party the year before, and he did not appear out of place.

Soon, however, he stormed out in anger. The nature of the dispute was not clear, but when he returned with his wife, 27, both of them were dressed in tactical gear and carrying assault rifles, officials said. That level of preparation is among the factors investigators are weighing as they examine a motive for the attack.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 3 at 2015 9:29 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 09:29:26 -0500

Well it seems this rampage was motivated by either domestic terrorism by a Muslim couple or international terror. I suspect that it was domestic terrorism by Jihadi terrorists.
Based on pro-ISIS tweets yesterday, ISIS members or affiliates have already been lauding the actions of the "three lions" who carried out the assault.
"LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCES tell Fox News that San Bernardino, Calif., shooting suspects Syed Farook, pictured, and Tashfeen Malik left multiple pipe bombs and other explosive devices at various sites associated with their killing spree Wednesday — including three pipe bombs at the Inland Regional Center, where they murdered 14 people and injured 17 others, multiple pipe bombs inside the SUV where they were killed after a gun battle with police Wednesday afternoon, and more pipe bombs and other small explosives at a house in the nearby city of Redlands, pictured right, which investigators were searching in connection with the rampage."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2015 9:42 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 09:42:25 -0500

Da'ish has praised the attack, but not claimed it as theirs

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 3 at 2015 9:54 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 09:54:34 -0500

It looks like maybe the guy was proselytized by ISIS - to go postal on his co-workers.

Funny thing is that the guy was employed going around to businesses inspecting reefers, kitchens, deep fryers, pools and stuff. Working out in the field. How do you build up hate for your co-workers when they don’t make a fresh pot of coffee doing that?

The way the cops riddled his car with bullets reminds me of Bonnie and Clyde. RAT-TAT-TAT.

Has a third shooter dropped out of the picture?

Walt

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Dec 3 at 2015 11:29 AM

SSG Todd Halverson — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 11:29:02 -0500

From what I have seen from various new agencies, I would not be surprised if this is a terrorist related attack. According to coworkers he kept under the radar at work and rarely conversed with anyone. According to some records he had Redding and Corona CA as his listed place of residence. He is listed as the current job by the county, but there is a LInkedIn page that has him listed as some sort of Business Tax Auditor for San B county. He recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and came home married and started growing his beard out.
To me, this looks like someone trying to keep from being noticed or easily recognized and the wife just makes him look more legit. Though they say he was US Born Citizen. My best guess would be another home grown terrorist that agreed with the ISIS philosophy.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2015 12:50 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:50:32 -0500

According to reuters - The wife pledged allegiance to one of the leaders of Da'esh recently on facebook.