LCDR Private RallyPoint Member 822183 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is off the shelf ammo why not jump all in.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=">http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=</a> [login to see] 70&amp;rank=1 <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/018/190/qrc/soldier-m9-600x400.jpg?1443048528"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=1198882887570&amp;rank=1">U.S. Army Wants Hollow-Point Ammo for New Pistol, Not for the M9</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Army&#39;s Modular Handgun System will include special ammunition such as jacketed hollow-points, but not the current M9.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Why would it be good for the Army's Modular Handgun System but not the M9? 2015-07-17T08:58:49-04:00 LCDR Private RallyPoint Member 822183 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is off the shelf ammo why not jump all in.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=">http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=</a> [login to see] 70&amp;rank=1 <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/018/190/qrc/soldier-m9-600x400.jpg?1443048528"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html?comp=1198882887570&amp;rank=1">U.S. Army Wants Hollow-Point Ammo for New Pistol, Not for the M9</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Army&#39;s Modular Handgun System will include special ammunition such as jacketed hollow-points, but not the current M9.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Why would it be good for the Army's Modular Handgun System but not the M9? 2015-07-17T08:58:49-04:00 2015-07-17T08:58:49-04:00 COL Charles Williams 822234 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="563693" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/563693-111x-surface-warfare-officer">LCDR Private RallyPoint Member</a> That is a good question. I am former Soldier, and Military Policeman, and have watched this through the years, in and out of the Army. I know we need focus on capability, NOT focusing on having a pistol that fits with NATO. How if NATO wants to fit they use what we use. We need:<br /><br />1. Durable, and simple.<br />2. 1st Hit Knock Down power, or at list with a double tap - like the 45...<br />3. Large Magazine.<br />4. Safe.<br /><br />I am not a gun expert, but there are many, and hopefully DOD is consulting with them. I am also not sure the combat pistol (PDW) and the law enforcement gun need to be same. <br /><a target="_blank" href="http://looserounds.com/2014/09/21/fbi-9mm-justification-fbi-training-division/">http://looserounds.com/2014/09/21/fbi-9mm-justification-fbi-training-division/</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://looserounds.com/2014/09/21/fbi-9mm-justification-fbi-training-division/">FBI 9MM Justification, FBI Training Division</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Below is a very interesting read from the FBI Training Division, FBI Academy, Quantico, VA. from a few months ago. This was a PDF file that was sent to me by a coworker. I want to emphasis this is ...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 17 at 2015 9:25 AM 2015-07-17T09:25:08-04:00 2015-07-17T09:25:08-04:00 CAPT Kevin B. 822591 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I recall there is service life, dirt in open slide, and safety on slide issues with the M9. So cartridge aside, the question becomes do you buy more M9s and accept the above or move on? I'd suspect the result will be some 40 variation for more power while keeping the width of a double stack magazine reasonable. It will be interesting to see how the "modular" can help with small hands. Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jul 17 at 2015 11:33 AM 2015-07-17T11:33:43-04:00 2015-07-17T11:33:43-04:00 2015-07-17T08:58:49-04:00