Why muslim women cover their face with a veil, nib, face veil, hijab,or head cover.

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 22:48:28 -0500

The attached is an honest discussion between muslim women about covering the face and or head or not wearing a cover at all. We don't have to agree with it but we can make an effort to learn, an effort to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwcVU3RiwbU

Why do muslim women cover their face with veil, why niqab,face veil, hijab,headcover

http://www.muslimkidschannel.com very interesting discussion about niqaab

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2015 11:25 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:25:47 -0500

I respect all religions. However, it is hard to trust someone when the only thing you see is their eyes. As the article I attached says, "Over evolutionary time, the ability to quickly extract information from faces has given us an edge in predicting character and behavior. It helps us to discern who's sick and whom to trust, who's flirtworthy, and who might blow up at a moment's notice. To get a sense of others' religiosity, sexual orientation, promiscuity, aggressiveness, competence, intelligence, and even trustworthiness, you might think that you should focus on how they act, not how they look. But then you'd neglect your swiftest insights." https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201211/whats-in-face.

My personal point is the it is hard to judge a face by its cover, especially if you don't see the face behind the cover. How do I trust someone when I only see eyes? I will not. Interpersonal skills are not developed behind covers; it's face to face time. I respect if you do not want to show your face in public; however, you also have to deal with how the public perceives your choices.

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Response by SGT Francis Wright made Dec 11 at 2015 11:45 PM

SGT Francis Wright — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:45:38 -0500

Because of their religious beliefs. But that should not be used to hide ones identity. That's what the radicals are doing, if they can't be identified; then they can't be held accountable.

Response by CPO Andy Carrillo, MS made Dec 11 at 2015 11:47 PM

CPO Andy Carrillo, MS — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:47:50 -0500

Apparently it is used as a religious fashion statement depending upon the wearer's level of devotion to either what they think God has directed them to do, or as a matter of convenience.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11120588/Muslim-women-reveal-why-they-wear-the-veil-burqa-school-debate.html

Feminism, fashion and religion: Why Muslim women choose to wear the veil

As a 16-year-old girl is told she cannot wear a niqab to a British school, Reddit users, who say they are Muslim women, candidly explain why they wear the veil. Radhika Sanghani reports

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Dec 12 at 2015 2:04 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 02:04:19 -0500

I always felt sorry for the ones wearing the Burqa in Dubai and Bahrain walking their Kids in the Osh Kosh Clothes.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2015 10:22 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:22:02 -0500

It is actually a Christian tradition before the Muslims incorporated it into their faith, since their faith started in the 500-600s. You can still see Christian women using the veil to hide their hair at church although they are not total facial veils. Muslims took the facial veil to prevent women from tempting men into infidelity. Christian example of this are shown in Mary in most of her pictures.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Dec 12 at 2015 10:38 AM

SSG Warren Swan — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 10:38:13 -0500

Going to throw this out there. I thought this was a very good video explaining why they are doing what they chose. At no point did they talk bad about another religion or how theirs was better. I respect these women for their views, even though I have my own personal opinions based off personal experiences with the Burqua and Niqab. But somewhere, somehow this will be perverted into a whole different discussion. To the ladies in the video, I wish you well in life. You seem intelligent and have a desire to stop the stereotypes we think when we see your religious dress.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Dec 12 at 2015 1:37 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:37:30 -0500

Have to bite my tongue on that question.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 12 at 2015 2:25 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:25:19 -0500

Those eyes, such beautiful eyes. Those ankles, such beautiful ankles.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Dec 12 at 2015 8:35 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:35:07 -0500

Because God wills it!

Response by SGT Jimmy Carpenter made Dec 12 at 2015 9:29 PM

SGT Jimmy Carpenter — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:29:47 -0500

I don't trust them.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 13 at 2015 11:30 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:30:56 -0500

What about the Jib Jab? Oh, that is an app. Why is this on RP again?

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Jan 31 at 2017 4:17 PM

PO3 Donald Murphy — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:17:29 -0500

Why? Duh! Cuz they're told to and will be beaten to within an inch of their life if they don't. THATS WHY...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2017 5:17 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:17:43 -0500

Interesting video. The dress is strange by western standards. Actually I think that westerners are more accepting of their standards than many of them are of ours. There is a clash in cultures.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Feb 1 at 2017 9:11 AM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 09:11:34 -0500

I will get to my opinion in a second so just follow me for a bit here. The Catholic Church has changed and evolved. They used to say mass in Latin and now its English. They used to abstain from meat on Fridays during Lent and the church has allowed this for Catholics over age 60. Most of what we believe, in the Catholic faith was written during the Dark Ages when the age of enlightenment was just a concept as yet undiscovered. People like Martin Luther were breaking away from the faith because they didn't like the rules that "Man" had set forth for their faith. This was at a time when women were subservient to the men in society and their importance was even written out of the bible. The woman who brings life into the world was lowered in stature to that of a servant. So having said all this I believe that new immigrants to our country should assimilate to our U.S. culture. You don't see German's walking around in Lederhoesen or for that matter Norwegians speaking Norsk daily in public or at the lumberyard. They celebrate their heritage in their homes or during special days of the year. They modified their actions and behavior to coincide with the culture they were integrating into. I think a Muslim women reporting to the DMV will need to lower her face veil so a positive ID can be made. This applies at a polling site too. How can you make any judgement about a persons intent or honesty if you can't see their face. That female you are standing in front of could be a guy ready to do you harm. This was evident in a few market bombings in the Middle East from eye witnesses.