Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 11:09:06 -0400

Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 2:25 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 14:25:25 -0400

Until this issue receives media and congressional scrutiny, in my opinion there will be no improvements to the efficiency of this process. Bottom line -- it's not broke but it is barely functioning with significant bottlenecks throughout the process which in many cases renders the DA Board process a viable option when it otherwise would not be. Just my personal observation.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 5:07 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 17:07:51 -0400

bureaucracy my friend

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2016 8:22 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:22:30 -0400

Does anyone have any insight into this process? I can't seem to find anything and it would be really helpful to myself and others if someone that knows the ins and outs could educate us on what happens to a promotion packet once it's sent up for FedRec.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2016 11:03 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:03:47 -0400

Update on this:

Looks like exactly 6 months after I got my state orders I've finally moved into the DoD approval cycle. Now on day 1, my status looks like the attached screenshot. I'm going to check this everyday and post another screenshot every time it changes so that we know which desks the packets cross, the exact order in which they cross those desks, and the timeframe that people can expect for each one.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2016 11:27 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:27:38 -0400

Found this post on another site. I did a lot of Google research and hadn't seen this post before but there are a lot of people posting about their personal experiences with this process. The thing is that nobody is having the same experience, or so it seems. At any rate, someone that was on scroll 08-16 tracked the changes he saw on the G1 Personnel Gateway and put the number of days in the DoD Cycle that he was on when his status changed. Worth a look, lots of recent comments.

https://www.part-time-commander.com/vacancy-promotion-tips-for-army-national-guard-officers/

Vacancy Promotion Tips for Army National Guard Officers - Citizen Soldier Resource Center

One of the biggest advantages of serving in the Army National Guard in comparison to Active Duty or the Army Reserves is the ability to get vacancy promotions. In essence, this process is quite similar to getting promoted below the zone on Active Duty. A Vacancy Promotion is when an Officer gets promoted to fill …

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2017 12:08 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:08:10 -0500

FYSA: I spoke with a woman by the name of Renne Marshall who is the "SME" on the FED REC / Packet status at NGB. Her phone# is [login to see] ....she was extremely helpful & gave me a realistic time frame for when my scroll would be published. I recommend giving her a call if your wondering where the heck your scroll is at!

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 16 at 2017 9:34 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:34:58 -0500

Status update: Moved a little. Says it's at JAG now after 96 days. However, I think it might have been there sooner. Know a guy in the scroll behind mine that had their status change to @ JAG as well today. So, I'm guessing that they're not very diligent at updating status on this thing like I've heard.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2017 10:27 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:27:17 -0500

Is anyone else getting this error? I haven't been able to login to the G1 site for a week now :(

Response by K Spouse made Jan 19 at 2017 11:42 AM

K Spouse — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:42:30 -0500

My husband is on scroll P01-17 which as of 1/18/17 is at "98 days/OTJAG." Selected for promotion by the State in February 2016, working in slot since 6/1/16, packet at NGB since around 6/20/16. It's hard for him to break from his civilian job to check on this so I talked to Ms. Renee Marshall in the NGB Fed Rec office today (her number can be found on GKO). She explained that even though the Gateway tracker "should" be updated every 2 weeks, prior to 1/13/17, her office had not received an update since November! So....even though it appears that the scroll just moved to the JAG office this week, it could have already been there since November/December. She said the average time at the JAG office ranges from 45-60 days and is the longest stop in the process. She also stated that there is a possibility that the scroll could have moved out of the JAG office in the last couple of days but we won't know that until the next update gets posted. Overall, she said the process usually takes 6-9 months from the time the packet is received at NGB, so "hopefully" this will be finished by March. I know this is a very frustrating process, but I hope this info helps. Good luck and congratulations to all on their promotions!

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2017 7:56 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:56:52 -0500

New Update: As expected, my scroll went over 120 days in cycle and the status bar turned to red. As we've seen before, that seems to be the max time these things are supposed to be in the process.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2017 1:02 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:02:28 -0500

I actually had almost the exact same experience for my 2LT to 1LT. It took 7 months after I received my State orders before I was put on a scroll, but they spelled my name wrong (or messed up something?) so I was moved to the next scroll 3 months later. It's now been 13 months and I've finally hit 122 days in the DoD Approval Cycle and it finally turned red. My peers received their promotion within 2 weeks of that so hopefully you're not too far away!

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2017 2:17 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:17:17 -0500

I'm looking for people waiting for 2LT-1LT Promotion in scroll L02-17. I'm at 14 days in the cycle at the Off Dep Ch of Staff Personnel. I'd like to know how long its been between when state orders were published and now for someone else in this scroll. My state published orders on November 17th. Where's my scroll buddies at?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2017 12:20 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:20:24 -0500

QUICK UPDATE: For those that are on Scroll L01-17 & P01-17; our packets are at OSD. Apparently the tracker system hasn't been updated as the individual who manages it has been out out on leave for 3 weeks. So have no fear they are moving along! Not too much longer!

Response by K Spouse made Mar 10 at 2017 9:58 AM

K Spouse — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:58:51 -0500

I was able to speak to a gentleman at NGB this morning (3/10/17). He confirmed that P01-17 is at OSD which is the last step in the 14-step process. He did not know how long the scroll would be at OSD, but he said there is "light at the end of the tunnel!" Hopefully it won't be much longer!!

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2017 10:48 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:48:11 -0500

Update:

As K Spouse has indicated, scroll P01-17 is at SecDef and the guy that updates the G1 site is back at work because my status changed. SecDef @ 149 days.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2017 8:58 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:58:16 -0500

Update;my packet just moved... Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 147 Days in DoD Approval cycle. At least is out of the JAG office!!!

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2017 1:05 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Mar 2017 13:05:29 -0400

Anyone looking for an update on P02-17; packets are at JAG day 123 in the red. My state orders were published in June 2016; will be a year before we know it.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 13 at 2017 12:37 AM

COL Charles Williams — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:37:49 -0400

I am guessing... MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member, but I suspect it is all based on the current population... That is, you can't promoted until the space is available...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2017 4:07 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:07:10 -0400

Well, I have finally gotten my state orders. Can someone share a link of where I can check on my scroll status please? I tried: http://g1arng.army.pentagon.mil/ but had the Server Error in '/' Application.

Any help would be much appreciated!
~Hoff

Runtime Error

Response by K Spouse made Mar 14 at 2017 5:37 PM

K Spouse — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:37:16 -0400

According to our State HR office today, my husband's rank has changed on the P01-17 scroll from MAJ to LTC. It was explained that this happens when the scroll reaches the SEC DEC office and is usually within 1 month of the orders being published. (We do not know what date the rank changed, just that it has changed.) Hopefully, we are near the end of this very long process!

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2017 10:01 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:01:58 -0400

Sooooo, yesterday marks a year since my state orders to CW5, I hope not to celebrate another anniversary like this; Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 160 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Number of Days 160

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2017 12:06 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 12:06:27 -0400

U10-16 published at 171 days last week. Congratulation to the three new CW2's in Oregon and the rest that waited on this list. I hope this places me, U02-17 currently 138 days, at around 40 more days if what I have been tracking is close to the norm.

Response by K Spouse made Mar 30 at 2017 3:48 PM

K Spouse — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:48:51 -0400

Does anyone have an update on P-01-17? It has been at OSD since at least early March. I've noticed others posted updates today about their scrolls, which are after P-01-17, finally moving to OSD on the tracker so I am hoping that P-01-17 might be moving also! I called NGB today, but their info was only current thru 3/21/17 and still said OSD. Thanks!

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 12:35 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:35:54 -0400

After 62 days in the approval cycle Scroll L02-17 has finally been updated in the G1 tracker to Office of the Judge Advocate General. Anyone know how far along that is?

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 5 at 2017 1:59 PM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 13:59:01 -0400

Even though the G1 tracker has not been updated, NGB has informed me that scroll P01-17 has been signed and published. They said check with your state OPM for a copy of your orders. Congrats to everyone else on that scroll. I'll post the date on my orders so that the people on the next scroll can have an idea of how close they are to having orders in hand.

***Edit***

The tracker changed today (06APR17) so I posted the picture. Scroll published yesterday.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2017 3:26 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:26:18 -0400

I was informed today that L01-17 has been signed but not yet published....almost there!

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2017 9:59 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:59:40 -0400

Update:Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; U01-17; 174 Days in DoD Approval cycle...

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2017 1:14 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 13:14:47 -0400

I heard back from NGB regarding U01-17. This scroll was approved by the SecDef on 28 March 2017. They said they typically get orders out 2-4 weeks after the approval date. So I guess that would be within 4-18 days from now.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2017 7:42 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:42:06 -0400

Update; U01-17, 180 days and still at SecDef office

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2017 1:03 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:03:07 -0400

The G1 stopped tracking mine at 181 days....anyone else not see theirs update??

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2017 1:26 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:26:33 -0400

Just got word from my state OPM that my scroll was published yesterday at 13:36! The wait is finally over! Just waiting for it to hit IPERMS!

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2017 9:59 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:59:12 -0400

U02-17 Published: SO# 82; 2017-04-20, so for my prospective I was on top of getting my promotion as I'm not a young Soldier and in a time crunch. My packet went to State 120 days out 28 Jun 16, I had my FED REC board in July sometime, my packet went to NGB on 1 Aug 16, Waiting assignment to the scrolls on 5 Sep 16, and waiting acceptance to the scrolls on 18 Sep 16. My State promotion was cut 28 Oct 16, DOR +5 years, and started tracking days on 10 Nov 16. 162 days scroll days and 298 total days later I have just received my 12th and last promotion for my long military career. Would any of this helped in the last administration? Don't know. All I can share is stay on top of your career, nobody takes care of you better than you.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2017 2:01 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Apr 2017 02:01:28 -0400

Congrats everyone! I was also on Scoll L01-17, and my DOR was backdated all the way to FEB 2016! Anyone know how long it typically takes to get back pay and if its automatic?

Response by CPT Edward Gunderson made Apr 27 at 2017 11:34 AM

CPT Edward Gunderson — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:34:04 -0400

your orders are produced by the state you belong to and filling that position. The reserve corps works off the federal system and federal line number. Therefore, waiting until that number is filled on the national scale. Just bigger numbers to deal with, the red tape on a larger scale combined makes for that long wait.

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2017 1:01 PM

1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 01 May 2017 13:01:12 -0400

Anyone else in P04-17? I am at 132 days, red, still Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General.

Response by Ed Hiestand made May 1 at 2017 2:19 PM

Ed Hiestand — Mon, 01 May 2017 14:19:48 -0400

Looking for information on the scrolling process for Nurses that have been selected in the November Boards. We are still waiting on this scroll to make it thru Congress (we are told), anyone have an idea of how long this takes or who we can contact to find out where a name is in the process? Thanks.

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2017 11:59 AM

1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 05 May 2017 11:59:50 -0400

Just an update for P04-17. Sounds like we have at least another month, if we go the same way P02-17 went. Frustrating.

Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P04-17; 136 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by CPT Michael Ludwick made May 8 at 2017 9:14 AM

CPT Michael Ludwick — Mon, 08 May 2017 09:14:57 -0400

Well P02-17 may have been signed almost a week ago, but there is still no update on the tracker this morning and my state can't see anything. Sounds like it hasn't published yet.... and/or it's sitting in someone's inbox waiting, and waiting, and waiting for them to hit send and publish.. Good luck this week gentlemen.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2017 6:22 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 May 2017 18:22:12 -0400

Does anyone have any info on the status of P02-17? Was it signed by SECDEF? Was the scroll published? And once it is published how long does it take for orders to be IPERM'd ? Lots of questions with no answers haha... It's over a year since I was approved by my State board.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2017 12:05 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 May 2017 00:05:00 -0400

Shout out to everyone on L02-17. Broke day 100 on the tracker....hooah?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2017 2:46 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 May 2017 14:46:49 -0400

For those wonder what the process is supposed to look like, and to know where they are in the process.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2017 10:46 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 May 2017 10:46:49 -0400

Day 190, P02-17.....

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2017 1:31 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 May 2017 13:31:50 -0400

No, P02-17 is just broke! 190!!!!!!!

Response by SFC S.t. Helms (Ret) made May 19 at 2017 7:21 PM

SFC S.t. Helms (Ret) — Fri, 19 May 2017 19:21:43 -0400

Wahhh... retired as a E6 NoGo honorably 4 yrs ago... still haven't seen my master wings or retirement ribbon. So officers complaining can pound sand.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2017 12:05 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 May 2017 12:05:42 -0400

Anyone who is on P02-017 will be happy to learn that the order was published by NGB on 19 MAY 17... that was appx. 191 days on the counter. I'm sure timelines will vary on when those of us on the scroll will actually see our orders in iPERMS.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2017 12:53 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 May 2017 12:53:12 -0400

Well P02-17 Finally Published on Day 194. Good things come to those that wait.....

Response by CPT Michael Ludwick made May 22 at 2017 9:55 PM

CPT Michael Ludwick — Mon, 22 May 2017 21:55:36 -0400

Here is a recap of the tracker I kept during this whole process for scroll P02-17. Your results may vary; I certainly hope they do. Congrats to all newly promoted officers and best of luck to those that continue to needlessly wait.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2017 8:13 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:13:09 -0400

P02-17, My orders were iperm'd the same day the tracker changed to published. Well over a year wait in total until I got promoted.

Response by COL John Hudson made May 28 at 2017 10:30 AM

COL John Hudson — Sun, 28 May 2017 10:30:33 -0400

Jeremy...too easy. "Because there's no war going on." Consider. I enlisted in 1966 and held enlisted rank to E-7. Flight school and WO-1 then CW2 in Vietnam. I took a 'battle field' commission to 1Lt of Infantry and was promoted to Captain exactly one year later. 4.5 years from the day I enlisted to the rank of Captain! War makes opportunity and while not the right kind (someone violently vacated their position), it is there nonetheless. In the door as an E-1; out the door 30 years later as an O-6 (I had a 10-year break in service). Conflict, circumstances, opportunity and the desire to grasp it. Be patient. We'll be fighting someone within this coming decade and who knows...you'll make O-7 within weeks of planting yourself down-range!!! Be patient, your turn's coming. John

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2017 5:15 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 17:15:27 -0400

Anyone know details on P03-17 at 185 days? It shows it is still at JAG. Seems to be taking abnormally long.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2017 8:58 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:58:49 -0400

Anyone from this group L03-17, my state recognized me in December but I am still waiting for fed rec.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2017 6:55 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Jun 2017 06:55:06 -0400

Any word on P03-17? 191 days and still at JAG.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2017 10:02 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:02:42 -0400

P03-17 Update: I called NGB this morning and have bad news. Apparently we are still at JAG, there were some hiccups with some people's backgrounds. P04-17 skipped us and we are at least a month out. I was told differently from my second-hand sources, so this is not good news at all.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2017 6:10 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 12 Jun 2017 06:10:11 -0400

Any news on P03-17? Seems as though the tracker has stopped altogether and has been stuck at 191 for a few days now! Anyone have the contact at NGB to follow up on this?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 12:16 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 12:16:21 -0400

P05-17 orders where published yesterday. I think they were at 132 days on the scroll. A little frustrating to be on P04-17. I can only imagine what being on P03-17 feels like.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 5:57 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:57:48 -0400

New question. For those of you that have published orders and are at the end of this goat rope, how far back are you getting back paid? I have a CW2 in my unit that waited a week short of 365 days from state orders to published fed rec and they back paid him all the way back to the day the state recognized his promotion. I'd like to know if anyone else had that experience.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2017 7:35 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Jun 2017 07:35:17 -0400

P04-17 Published as of this morning, 23 June 2017. Congrats everyone!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2017 12:44 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:44:18 -0400

Scroll U10-17 Update/Comment Thread:
Check your packet status here:
https://arngg1.ngb.army.mil/SelfService/careercenter/soldierdata.aspx

As of 20170629. Day 37

soldierdata.aspx

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2017 10:38 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 10:38:18 -0400

P03-17 Update: The three soldiers with negative background information have been dropped from our scroll and we are moving ahead normally. I didn't get a timetable, but was assured we are now moving.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2017 3:48 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 15:48:56 -0400

Am I the only one having difficulty accessing the antiquated, poorly designed, and sub-sloth driven G1 website (link below)? Regardless, if and when I do log in, I will continue to see the disappointing results of this comical FedRec process. In December, the state published my promotion orders, yet as of today, or so I think, my packet doubles as a coffee coaster on the JAG's desk. I would list my Scroll number, but for now I must wait until the G1 hamsters spin their wheels fast enough to generate the minimum power to bring up the servers.

http://arngg1.ngb.army.mil/SelfService/careercenter/soldierdata.aspx

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2017 8:14 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:14:55 -0400

Is there anybody else on Scroll U06-17 and who sees it sitting at the JAG office? I lost track on how long it has been there thus far.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2017 5:00 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 17:00:40 -0400

There is an actual calendar, and then there is a DoD calendar, as in 90-days equal a year. But then there is the FedRec calendar, as in 90-days equals 10-years, or more, or forever.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2017 6:26 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:26:52 -0400

L02-17 is going on day 160 on the tracker, anyone talk to NGB for an update?

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2017 9:02 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:02:05 -0400

Anyone else on P10-17?

Anyone actually work at NGB and have deeper insight to this issue? This must be something that can be "fixed."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2017 4:50 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:50:43 -0400

Update for P07-17; Currently my status shows "Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P07-17; 122 Days in DoD Approval cycle" and RED. I decided to email the folks at NGB and this is what I was told by CW3 Poppy...

Sir,
As of 21 Jun 17, that scroll as at DAS (Dir of Army Staff). There are a couple of offices in the process that are NOT listed in eTracker after this office. It has a few more offices to go before being signed. Once signed, it has been taking anywhere from 2-4 weeks for us to receive the signed scroll so that we can publish orders.

I do not know what the 'color coding' represents. I have asked the contractors to provide us the perimeters (meaning) or remove the color coding all together. (We have heard nothing from them!) The colors are off if you ask me....the further you go through the process, it should be going 'green' not 'red'. At the beginning, it is 'green'. (?) If you are at 123 days, you are doing good...trust me! Some are much longer and were submitted prior to your scroll. We have no control over the packets after they are sent to the Pentagon (HQDA G1).

So pretty good news even though the tracker doesn't reflect this. Keep your heads up!

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 12 at 2017 9:44 AM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:44:12 -0400

Anyone else on P08-17?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 12 at 2017 10:59 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:59:53 -0400

Is the G1 website down? I am getting the error listed below. Or maybe the G1 got tired of me checking their website, so they blocked me.

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Reference ID: 38734470

If you continue to experience this problem, please provide the reference id to the RCMS help desk at [login to see] or by email at [login to see] .

Reminder: Please do not send emails containing personally identifiable information (PII) to the helpdesk.
Jul 12, 2017 10:55:44

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 12 at 2017 4:04 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:04:39 -0400

Just think, that in the time that it takes to complete the FEDREC process for U06-17, it is equal to or more than:
1. A deployment, complete with PMT, DEMOB, and leave
2. A full year of college, to include summer session
3. A full-term pregnancy, followed by maternity leave
4. The time it takes to train a fighter pilot (average is 8-9 months)
5. An adjudicated TS clearance, complete with full scope poly
6. The Special Forces Qualification Course, minus language school (and that seemed forever)
7. Six(6) Ranger School Classes, possibly seven (7). Heck, a Ranger School student could recycle each phase twice and still graduate before U06-17 is completed
8. Lastly, I could watch my child grow from birth to that one-year mark when they are walking. Or in my case my child reached the age to graduate college, and then started to have a family of his own, thus beginning #1 all over again in an infinite cycle, much like Groundhog Day.

It kind of puts things in perspective!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2017 12:52 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:52:07 -0400

Any info on P09-17... it does not seem to be moving at all. After 84 days it still has the same message as day 1.
Scroll created with packets and List_ID; P09-17; 84 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2017 12:54 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:54:07 -0400

Anyone have information on P09-17? It has not moved in 84 days. Hopefully we are not in competition with P03-17...
Scroll created with packets and List_ID; P09-17; 84 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by LTC Bill Koski made Jul 17 at 2017 12:58 PM

LTC Bill Koski — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:58:18 -0400

Wow! I really didn't think it took that long! It seems to me in my early years in the ARNG it was a couple of months at most.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2017 9:08 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:08:50 -0400

Who wants to do an over/under on whether P03-17 makes it to 365 on the fed rec counter?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2017 10:17 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:17:45 -0400

Scroll 13-17 (probably will end up being 01-18) created today. Only 200 days to go if Im lucky!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2017 3:11 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:11:26 -0400

Active vs Reserves = Assets being sent vs number of slots and budget constraints: US is broke. And Politics willing to throw freedom to sewer to take care of people who don't take care of self in US and world.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2017 10:17 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:17:38 -0400

Contact CW3 Poppy today for an update on P03-17:
"As of Monday, this scroll was at OSD - Office of Secretary of Defense. This is the approval level. Hopefully within the next 30-45 days, we will receive the approved/signed copy so we can publish orders."

Response by Sarah Zayas made Jul 26 at 2017 4:48 PM

Sarah Zayas — Wed, 26 Jul 2017 16:48:55 -0400

good question

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2017 12:26 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:26:39 -0400

Update on L02-17: Awaiting Off of SEC DEF Approval, day 176 on the tracker. finally moved after more than 100 days.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2017 8:26 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jul 2017 20:26:06 -0400

Day 239...P03-17 is at Sec Def finally.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2017 10:00 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:00:55 -0400

Attention Scroll P03-17... We are not at SECDEF. We moved a step closer!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2017 3:01 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 15:01:45 -0400

What is your Date of Rank after Fed Rec? Is it the date on your state promotion orders, or the date the SEC DEF signs? If it actually is the date the SEC DEF signs, then what is the point of state promotion orders if CPT and above don't receive back pay and time in grade?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2017 11:23 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:23:10 -0400

P07-17 Is published!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2017 12:44 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:44:10 -0400

Hello all,
I apologize for being off the grid since my last post, which was exactly 30-days ago. Recently, I took a break from checking the ARNG G1 site and instead took to follow the well-known aphorism that 'a watched pot never boils'. Well, that, too, did not work because I checked the G1 site today and there is our scroll, growing mold from the coffee stains and sitting at the JAG. To use the analogy above, in this instance not only is the pot no longer boiling, but there is no water in there; it evaporated. In fact, the owner of the pot moved out of the house, which has since been torn down to make way for an IMAX theater and an 8-lane freeway with HOV lanes. All of these were constructed and opened in the time span of this FedRec process.

Response by Dennis Aubuchon made Aug 12 at 2017 5:39 PM

Dennis Aubuchon — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:39:13 -0400

This process and others like it need to be improved to the point that that it needs to be efficient and not let those in line for such action waiting for long periods of time.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2017 1:04 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:04:34 -0400

Just spoke to CW3 Poppy about L02-17, and this is the response I got:

"This scroll is at OSD (SEC DEF) awaiting approval as of the status report dated 24 Jul 17. Request that you go through your State OPM to get status updates. We only get them once a month and we push them to the OPMs via MilSuite. Due to the number of inquiries on all the scrolls from individuals, we can no longer keep answering individuals. It is starting to affect our abilities to process scrolls."

So I guess we should all stop emailing people at NGB.

L02-17, day 196, OSD. Guess we'll be breaking 200 days on the tracker.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2017 7:27 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 07:27:46 -0400

ARNG Officers and Warrants used to only go as far as NGB for FEDREC. There was a special board and process. In 2014 or thereabouts that changed we now go through the same wickets at the Pentagon that our Active Duty and Reserve Component brethren do, which tripled the typical wait time, since we're all in the same queue now. It took me 8 months after getting my State order to get FEDREC'd. This is the new reality, so prepare and submit your future packets as soon as possible!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2017 12:05 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:05:15 -0400

Does anyone have any new information for PO3-17? 264 days now...

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2017 12:08 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:08:43 -0400

Anyone have any new information for PO3-17? 264 days now...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2017 2:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:40:42 -0400

Just got word from NGB that P03-17 published today. Should be iPerm'd within 48 hours!!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2017 3:43 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:43:08 -0400

I just got an email from my G1 that P03-17 published. Only took 266 days on FedRec (at least since it was last updated) and over a year since submitting my packet. I can definitely say that because of this I will be ending my career at least 4 years earlier than I intended as it has thrown me back almost 2 years in terms of timing for the next grade.

Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made Aug 24 at 2017 10:49 AM

LTC Charles T Dalbec — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:49:28 -0400

Unfortunately having to go they many wickets many systems don't talk to each other so they have to 'hand jam' data where there will be errors etc.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2017 8:31 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Aug 2017 08:31:33 -0400

Update on L02-17, Day 209, now says "Awaiting selection for publication of order; L02-17"

Sounds like this could either be a quick step, or an indefinite one.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2017 9:10 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:10:38 -0400

I have a question for you, did you receive your commission through your state or were you federally commissioned through ROTC or OCS at Fort Benning be. I believe if you are state Commissioned there's some extra steps that may be required for federal recognition. Since all reservists receive federal commissions we do not go through a recognition process.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2017 1:02 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:02:45 -0400

Anyone else on scroll P08-17 and has received any kind of update

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2017 11:20 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:20:22 -0400

Either G1 site is down or my laptop is disagreeing with government sites (again). Does anyone have ability to see current status of P09-17? Thanks!

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2017 2:15 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:15:03 -0400

Anyone know the status of scroll U06-17? I am currently tracking it on G1 portal at "Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs appr; U06-17; 202 Days in DoD Approval cycle. State orders published since Dec 2016.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2017 7:41 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:41:32 -0400

I spoke with a 1 Star who provided the following information. The NGB is getting hounded weekly with complaints. They know this is a problem. Right now one solution on the table is to make smaller scrolls so they take less time. I am on scroll 13-17 and it has moved quickly to JAG within 2 months of showing up on the NGB G1 website. This is not going to help those of you on earlier scrolls, but if you are on 13-17 and later you may have gotten extremely lucky.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2017 3:37 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:37:16 -0400

I am in L03-17 the clock stopped ticking at 140 days and says awaiting Sec Def. Does anyone else have this issue or has it not been updated and anyone from L03-17 receive a published FedRec?

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Oct 14 at 2017 7:49 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:49:31 -0400

Sir, I think the process would move faster if promotions were tied to the various levels of approval to their advancements.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2017 9:56 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:56:01 -0400

Yes, I am back, and yes scroll U06-17 is now deemed a relic. In fact, I think I am going to contact the archeologists at the Smithsonian Institution to examine the scroll by running it through a carbon dating process. They may, in fact, scratch their heads in wonder because the half-life decay far exceeds that of carbon-14. Their final assessment on the original date of scroll U06-17: inconclusive.
In all seriousness, I learned from our CCWO that another 180A (SF Warrant) went through the FedRec after me, and received his promotion within the past 2-months. Then he added that U06-17 is setting the record (for our state, not nationally) for the longest time it has gone through this idiotic process. Needless to say, my inner 'Ranger mad...ranger smash' came out, followed by flipping tables and getting into my car to unleash my road rage...on everyone, even to the cops that pulled me over after conducting a high-risk stop. While I was on the ground, and with my hands spread out, I turned my head and spoke out of the corner of my mouth to explain, in detail, about the FedRec process. The officers dropped their weapons at their side and almost like a church chorus, they collectively sang, "Ahhhh, we don't blame you! La la laaa.....we know about the FedRec, a national disgrace....la laa la!" It was magical. I dusted myself off, got back in my car, and drove away as the officers said, with tears rolling down their cheeks, "There goes another victim whose oxygen was stolen by the thieves running the FedRec process."

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2017 2:06 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:06:44 -0400

P15-17 here. Really hoping I'm one of the lucky ones.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2017 8:24 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:24:54 -0400

I am tracking from historical data on this post, that 3-17 and 7-17 scrolls published over 3 months ago. No other scrolls have published in that time that are being tracked on this thread. So my question is, did they wipe their brows, slaps some high fives and take the rest of the fiscal year off.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2017 2:13 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:13:26 -0400

For those on U06-17, here is an update I received from Renee Marshall, who is a very nice lady. She has a very tough job fielding all of the calls about this FedRec process. I can assume that a majority of these calls are not meant to chat and shoot the breeze to see 'how things are going'. No, no, poor Ms. Marshall most likely takes the brunt of all the complaints about this process, which explains that when I spoke to her she sounded exhausted. Good thing it is a Friday. Nevertheless, U06-17 and a couple of other scrolls that are in the same predicament is on the radar in that yesterday there was a meeting held to address this issue. Ms. Marshall is tracking down what happened as a result of the outcome of this meeting, with the hopes the answer is in the positive and our scrolls are moving forward from that of a one-legged, sub-sloth pace to maybe a sloth with two legs.

Response by COL David Turk made Oct 22 at 2017 4:53 PM

COL David Turk — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:53:35 -0400

In past, there was no delay for Reserve Officers. This must be a NG issue (or new within the last 10+ years).

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Oct 23 at 2017 7:18 AM

CW5 Jack Cardwell — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:18:20 -0400

It's the scroll system. If one packet on the scroll the whole scroll goes back . I had a friend that was on a scroll that was 4 months older than the scroll I was on yet I was promoted before her.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2017 5:58 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:58:48 -0400

Instead of FedRec, perhaps a more appropriate term is FedWreck. Enough said!!!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2017 10:42 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:42:25 -0400

This FedRec process is similar to those moving walkways in the airport, except for many of us waiting on our respective scrolls it seems like we are walking in the opposite direction. That is, it takes extra effort just to maintain continuous momentum to go forward, then once we stop moving (e.g. the JAG office reviewing the scroll) the walkway sends us backwards, almost to the point where we started. Yet we struggle to get to that exact point where we stopped, and then continue with that struggle to move past that point (e.g. JAG or Asst Sec Army) to try and reach the end. Along the way, however, and because we are exhausted, we stop, only for the walkway to send us backwards again, past that first stopping point and almost to the beginning--again. The cycle continues almost interminably, sort of like Sisyphus rolling the proverbial boulder uphill, thus condemning all of us to the eternal FedRec process. As an added measure, every night I go to sleep by placing one coin on top of each eye, for I fear that U06-17 is dead. I am, therefore, prepared to pay Charon to ferry me across the river Styx to meet my fate at the hands of Hades, the holder of the scroll in the deepest bowels of FedRec hell.

Okay, admittedly my mind went off track on this posting; I have no idea how I envisioned this silly analogy.

Response by SSG Lonny Self made Oct 27 at 2017 12:35 PM

SSG Lonny Self — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:35:01 -0400

do you have a clearance if so that could hold up things , and then there is a matter of pay and they have budget issues they hold up on that as well only so many slots

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 9:57 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:57:44 -0400

Anyone in L03-17; 169 Days in DoD Approval cycle? I'd like to beat a dead horse as well.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 11:32 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:32:00 -0400

Above, is the supposed flow chart depicting the FedRec Process.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2017 8:56 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:56:45 -0500

now Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U06-17; 249 Days in DoD Approval cycle.... well I guess it may pass the 264 days of P03-17

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2017 2:22 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:22:53 -0500

Is there anyone here that has written their Representative about the Fed Rec process? If so, what was the response/outcome?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2017 2:27 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:27:08 -0500

Do any past participants on this thread have any insight on The Board for Correction of Military Records (BCMR). Some have stated that their scroll published date was changed to the day prior to subsequent scrolls for that fiscal year. Can anyone shed some light on the process itself, or if this is an accurate statement?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2017 3:48 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:48:31 -0500

Roll call for everyone whose careers are stuck in Fedrec purgatory. State your scroll and where you are and how many days. P13-17 JAG 94 days

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2017 1:40 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:40:28 -0500

As of today, U06-17 made it to that elite level in the '250-day' club. I am so proud to be amongst my esteemed colleagues on similar scrolls that also reached this stage in the FedRec process.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2017 2:46 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 14:46:43 -0500

Has anyone had any movement? 13-17 are at 101 at JAG.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2017 5:48 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:48:46 -0500

Congrats to my fellow FedWreckers (Thanks Chief,) of P08-17 and P09-17! We have joined the miserable legions of The Forgotten in wallowing on a scroll for over 200 days. I'm going to go home and yell into a beer in your honor.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2017 8:14 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:14:06 -0500

Has anyone made an inquiry on U11-17? We went to JAG around day 80, we are on day 142 now.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2017 1:36 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:36:21 -0500

On P09-17...210 Days...With Thanksgiving approaching, no chance this order comes soon. Awesome.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2017 2:36 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:36:26 -0500

U10-17 appears to be on it's way to the 200+ Club...
"Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs appr; U10-17; 181 Days in DoD Approval cycle."

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2017 7:52 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:52:05 -0500

The NGAUS Executive Council met this weekend. We happened to be at the hotel many of them were staying at. One of our WOs talked with them and they were very interested in (and already aware of) the FedRec timeline.
I would recommend that NGAUS can speak better for us collectively than we can individually. I would recommend to all contacting them and asking for a specific person you can speak to to explain your situation.
Be professional, remember, most of these members are ex-GOs and TAGs. But, after thinking about it, I believe their voice is much more powerful.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2017 2:33 PM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:33:45 -0500

The following article appeared today on the NGAUS website. About 2/3 down the article is a link to complete a survey regarding the Fedrec process for anyone who has been through in the last five years.

https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/survey-guardsmen-wait-years-promotions?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] &utm_content=November%2020%2C%202017%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Guard%20Officers%3A%20Long%20Wait%20for%20Promotions

Survey: Guardsmen Wait Years for Promotions

Washington Report (November 21, 2017) More than 500 National Guard officers have responded to a NGAUS survey regarding wait times for federally recognized promotions, and several say they have waited more than a year. In fact, a few have waited more than 1,000 days to receive the promotion they have earned.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2017 2:52 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:52:44 -0500

Article posted today from NGAUS. Also contains a link for you to tell your FED REC story. One Officer was on a scroll for over 2,000 days.... I would have lost my marbles.

https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/survey-guardsmen-wait-years-promotions?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] &utm_content=November%2020%2C%202017%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Guard%20Officers%3A%20Long%20Wait%20for%20Promotions

Survey: Guardsmen Wait Years for Promotions

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2017 8:11 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:11:23 -0500

Scroll Call! Where are you at? 13-17 116 days at JAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2017 2:56 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:56:17 -0500

I just received an email from the Command Chief WO of our state. He sent an email from our state Chief of Staff stating that there is grounds for ABCMR, which would correct your DOR.
The link to the ABCMR is as follows.
http://arba.army.pentagon.mil/abcmr-app.html
The recommendation that was made is to submit the request for change back to the average days it should have taken you to get promoted.
Here is a link to the document that he sent that outlines the process and the average number of days it should take for the promotion to become effective.
Long story short WO's and 1LT's should be around 130 days total.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Of2lGtCoOEkwppNNSkRYSzheeYkJlCAI

***EDIT****
Adding the email from the Aide de Camp vice chief of staff DA with associated regs on the fedrec process.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzEG9rjtcCbNY3pUTDdMeklVWXU1WkVvMkdKdVI2OVpyMUtV

The United States Army | Army Review Boards Agency

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2017 6:38 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:38:05 -0500

If U06-17 hits 300-Days in the FedRec process, will that be the same as scoring 300 on the APFT?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2017 3:59 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:59:02 -0500

This morning I called the phone number [login to see] ) for Renee Marshall, but instead, another lady answered, and in a manner like I bothered her. After I asked her about the status of scroll U06-17, her reply was, “What State are you in?” At first, I thought she meant my mental state, so I was somewhat taken aback, then I realized she meant one of the continental states. Anyway, the bottom line is that from now on, ALL of us on our respective scrolls must call their State G1, not the phone number above. I guess they are tired of their phone ringing off the hook. She did say, however, that U06-17 is at OSD, not at the SecArmy, as stated in the tracker. In total, the call lasted 47 seconds.

Response by SFC Laurie Schultz made Dec 5 at 2017 7:20 PM

SFC Laurie Schultz — Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:20:03 -0500

Congress. Need I say anything more.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2017 10:50 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 10:50:52 -0500

This survey is intended for any serving or recently retired Guardsman who has been promoted to any officer pay grade up to and including O5/W5 within the last 5 years. If you have been promoted more than once in the last 5 years, please base your answers on the most recent promotion.

The responses will provide NGAUS with important feedback related to the Federal Recognition process.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VH9N78N

VH9N78N

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2017 1:34 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:34:59 -0500

We should all seek to have our DOR pushed back to the average time for completion based on where your scroll fits in the process. This way we don't lose out on future advancement.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2017 11:46 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:46:37 -0500

Is anyone else on here on Scroll D16-17? This is my first go-round with the scroll, but this seems a little slow compared to what everyone else is posting.

Response by CW4(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2017 9:48 PM

CW4(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:48:31 -0500

Does anyone know about U10-17? 210 days on the FED REC Scroll.....

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2017 1:50 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:50:18 -0500

I don’t know that anyone on here is going to have an actual answer to the original question but many of us believe that it is a cost saving measure that unfortunately screws the soldier. Think of the money save over a 200 day timeline for all the Officers that are delayed promotion.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 1:17 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Dec 2017 13:17:51 -0500

It is official: Today, U06-17 hit the 300-day mark. What an achievement. I am definitely putting this accomplishment on my next OER.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 8:16 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:16:52 -0500

They got tired of people complaining how long they were on the scroll so they fixed it! Now all of a sudden, when I try to go to Career Center to view how many days I've been on the scroll, I get an access prohibited message. Guess they decided if I can't see it cross the 200 day mark in a couple days, I can't complain! Fixed!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 2 at 2018 7:42 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 07:42:21 -0500

13-17 at 151 days. Pretty ridiculous. I'm on the first bus to Army Reserve the first chance I get. I love the Guard but its just not worth it.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 2 at 2018 1:04 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 13:04:03 -0500

P 08-17 crossed the 250 day mark! The best part of the new year is that my state promotion order is almost a year old! #blessed

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2018 10:08 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:08:30 -0500

I have a suspicion, that our Secretary of Defense is unaware that there are literally thousands of National Guard Officers whose promotions are currently waiting on his approval. James Mattis does not strike me as the kind of leader that would be pleased with that. I would hate to be the one that hands him those scrolls with all the names and numbers of those of us stuck in Purgatory when he asks, "What is the story behind these?"

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2018 8:19 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:19:45 -0500

According to the OPM website, there is a 2-hour delay for all government workers here in the DC area. For the workers at NGB, however, those 2-hours may as well be 2-days. That is, they’ll take any opportunity to opt for a day off, even so much as having a slight sniffle.

Response by 2LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2018 10:41 AM

2LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:41:11 -0500

Don't worry guys, it's not that bad. you could be like me.

I was commissioned as a 2LT into the ARNG 5 years ago and I am still waiting for a promotion to 1LT (Finally 135 days in waiting on JAG). Of course, that is mostly because they lost my original FEDREC for 2LT, demoted me to an E-3 (on pay grade, which I was paid at for over 1 year before it was changed back to O-1) and then changed my Oath of Office and Commissioning date to over 2 years after my ACTUAL commissioning date because they tried fixing it and somehow lost my records and couldn't even find me in the "system", as it was explained. So, the advancement to 1LT is based on the wrong date of commissioning. But think of the Back pay when all of this is corrected. Also, let this be a lesson. Keep all of your original documents in an "I LOVE ME" binder in case anything is ever questioned.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2018 10:21 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:21:15 -0500

Has anyone seen any movement on scrolls after the Holidays? I see someone posted that 03-17 published? The data tab on the G1 site was down this weekend - go figure

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2018 1:32 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:32:27 -0500

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member that is why a lot of ARNG officers jump ship and come to the reserves. We are larger and not reliant on just the slots in the state in your AOC. Promotions tend to be faster as well.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2018 1:40 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 13:40:35 -0500

What does it means when your Army scroll been submitted for direct commission but, hasn't been approved yet?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2018 11:05 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:05:03 -0500

D08-17 is now sitting at 290 days....Let's see if we will also hit the 300 day mark.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2018 9:59 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:59:36 -0500

Here's a fun fact for those of us on U06-17, P09-17 and P08-17 ....our scrolls have lasted longer than the marriage of Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio. :)

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2018 10:37 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:37:05 -0500

Update on U11-17. I just spoke with NGB. The scroll is actually at OT Jag and the tracker is accurate. What that means is a little ambiguous though. The label of OT Jag includes CID and about 5 other departments. I was told that if there is an officer on the scroll the entire scroll gets put on hold and sent to an officer review board, that board has to convene and decide if they are going to leave that person on the scroll or pull them and send the scroll on without them. Being that this scroll has been at OT Jag for over 123 days now, I'm guessing this is the case. So I think our best bet at this point is to try to find out who is holding up the scroll and take care of the problem ourselves. If no one is on board with that, I guess we continue to wait at OT Jag.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jan 13 at 2018 4:13 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:13:15 -0500

I know my last promotion took well over a year. I was floored at the pace it moved at. It reminded me of the old catsup commercial, and the guy running down stairs to catch it on his bun. Only slower, much, much slower. In the days of computer technology, we have discovered a way to move slower than ever before. How is that possible?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2018 3:40 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:40:11 -0500

I've seen a few comments that folks have found updates through the grapevine (NOT the FEDREC tracker) that U06-17 & P08-17 may have had some movement. Congrats to you all- some motion is better than none. Anyone have any back channel info on P09-17?
Side note- it's been 5 months since P07-17 published...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 16 at 2018 8:49 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:49:57 -0500

U06-17, D08-17, and P08-17, are now three of the longest running promotion scrolls being processed in a while (and others are also catching up). Its funny, I still remember my commander saying that the fedrec process was averaging less than a 180 days when this process started, but I believe these scrolls are over 300 days now with D08-17 alone being at SECDEF for over three months (supposedly the last step in the process)... And still no one has provided the reason why this happening all of sudden. I understand if there is extra vetting now which would hold it up at a particular step in the process, or if a particular scroll has derogatory information for a particular officer that needs to be addressed. However, for all scrolls being held up at every single step makes no sense to anyone. And now many are at OSD, which is supposedly a relatively quick/final step (I have heard less than 30 days), so what is the hold up still?

On that note, when was the last promotion scroll signed? Something like six months ago? So no ARNG officers have had a federal promotion in that time? I am actually surprised there are not more letters to congress.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 16 at 2018 8:58 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:58:14 -0500

Why do I keep checking this thing, like something's going to change? At this point I am just torturing myself. Of course nothing's changed, you don't get to ~270 days scrolling by actually displaying progress. My maximum TIG is approaching.... I am The Terminal LT!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2018 3:36 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:36:49 -0500

Did the G1 tracker site go down? I cannot get it to come up. Another sad fact is with the pending government shutdown, this will definitely affect all of us. In fact, it would not surprise me if the NGB will go ahead and justify that as a day-off and give themselves a 3, or perhaps a 4-day weekend.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2018 2:21 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:21:28 -0500

Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval;
P09-17; 270 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Just updated today. Sorry I have no information on other scrolls.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2018 12:01 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:01:11 -0500

How can we expect this inept Congress to have the ability to fix an equally if not more inept NGB? Writing a letter to a member of Congress is no different than writing a letter to a convicted and improsoned felon, although the latter would pen a reply more readily than the former.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2018 12:23 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:23:38 -0500

Well, at least they have an excuse for a while on why our packets are not moving forward. Maybe for the last year they've been conducting an orderly shutdown to prepare for this? About another year to start back up and we'll see things start moving again. Doesn't affect me nearly to the same level as everyone else...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2018 10:21 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:21:11 -0500

D08-17 has broken the 300 day mark, and along with the current government shutdown, I'm now interested to see how many more days these scrolls will gain.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2018 6:55 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 06:55:48 -0500

And to think, during the shutdown, or any shutdown for that matter, Congress still gets paid. At the same time, however, their aides do not get paid, and they are the ones doing all of the work. This scenario reminds me of the old MASH episodes with Radar O'Reilly and COL Henry Blake, except in this instance Radar is like a Congressional Aide and COL Blake is the Congressman. Radar (aide) would then present to COL Blake (Congressman) a huge stack of forms, with COL Blake asking, "What am I signing?". Radar replies, "You are signing this form to acknowledge your are signing the other forms, but those forms do not need a signature because this other form says so, but you need to sign this form that gives me permission to present these forms to you, which you do and do not have to sign....sir."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2018 2:38 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:38:09 -0500

Well, the AC Officer Promotion list was just released...so people are getting promoted, just not us.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2018 8:50 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:50:15 -0500

Here is an update to my post that I put on here....7-months ago. Feel free to add in your personal experiences!
Just think, that in the time that it takes to complete the FEDREC process for U06-17, it is equal to or more than:
1. A deployment, complete with PMT, DEMOB, and leave
2. A full year of college, to include summer session
3. A full-term pregnancy, followed by maternity leave
4. The time it takes to train a fighter pilot (average is 8-9 months)
5. An adjudicated TS clearance, complete with full scope poly
6. The Special Forces Qualification Course, minus language school (and that seemed forever)
7. Six(6) Ranger School Classes, possibly seven (7). Heck, a Ranger School student could recycle each phase twice and still graduate before U06-17 is completed
8. Lastly, I could watch my child grow from birth to that one-year mark when they are walking. Or in my case my child reached the age to graduate college, and then started to have a family of his own, thus beginning #1 all over again in an infinite cycle, much like Groundhog Day.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Jan 23 at 2018 9:05 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:05:45 -0500

Sp$ Byron Skinner. Don't know nottin' about officers promotions. Seems to like in the day a 2LT. gets killed or would that keeps him from returning to duty so other 2lt. would come a long and become a 1st. Lt. and take over the Platoon. XO's didn't get killed or wounded much. Troop Commanders had to do six months then to HQ and an 04 rank, the vacated 03 slot would be filled by an 02 with a couple of years in. After that I don't know what happened to them.

For enlisted an E-3 upon arrival in Vietnam could expect if he was half decent be an E-6 which got reduced to E-5 when he got back into the world. Seems like, as usual, the EM gets the short end of the promotion stick.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2018 9:01 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:01:47 -0500

For those of you on P08-17, U06-17, and D08-17 I highly suggest submitting a congressional inquiry to your local representative. It was a very quick process, and I had a response back from them in a few days. It may not solve the issue quickly, but at this point there is serious incompetence at NGB that needs to be addressed. If the Guard leadership wants to hound on accountability and retention, it's laughable that they don't address these issues!

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2018 1:59 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:59:36 -0500

Does anyone know when the last scroll published?

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2018 4:08 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:08:11 -0500

I have been meaning to post some of the info I have learned. I am not saying that it is all absolutely correct, but I do my best not to relay any information that is only hearsay. If anyone has contrary information, I will be happy to dig in to an accurate answer.
I am NOT an official voice. I am doing my best to relay info. I do not speak for anyone at NGB and I have not coordinated this with anyone there. My experience is primarily with UVP of Warrant Officers. I focus on those, but dont know the differences in the normal DA Select process.
1. First and foremost, the Federal Recognition requirement (and process) is NOT invented by NGB. There are many historical instances that support it. Check out the history of Colonel Sanders, Kentucky National Guard (yes, he is real). What we go through at our State levels is a board that RECOMMENDS Federal Recognition. Only the President can grant Federal Recognition, which he has delegated to the Secretary of Defense. Federal Recognition is the certification that you meet the requirements to serve alongside your Regular Army peers in the event we are Federalized and called to Active Duty under Title 10.
2. NGB only accepts packets from the States and scrolls them. Their 'standard' is to accept within 10 days and assign to a scroll within 45 days. Once this is complete, and the scroll is transmitted to DMPM, their part in the process is complete, until the scroll is returned. NGB is doing some additional initial screening in an effort to cut down on the delays for issues caught further down the line and assist with the process. Generally, NGB says they are meeting their suspenses for scrolling.
3. The whole process at DA and DOD is just normal staffing. Any time a document moves from one place to another, there is always a lot of work. SecArmy has to approve before a doc goes to SecDef. CSA approves before it goes to SecArmy, Dir Army Staff approves before it goes to CSA, etc. Its bureaucracy, but its SOP whether a change to a Reg, a Policy Memo, or a Promotion Scroll.
4. The Exemplary Conduct Screening (at OTJAG) was expected to add about 45 days to the process. A normal Scroll (without screening) is expected to take 4 months, but NGR 600-101 allows packets to be submitted 120 days PRIOR to eligibility (TIG met). The Screening is directed by SecDef and SecArmy (Army Dir 2016-26), nothing to do with NGB. While it is taking 10 months in many cases, the EXPECTED time is approx 6 months, meaning it is running about 4 months longer. That is not good, but it is what ABCMR, et al, are looking at. Early in FY17, scrolls were taking 5-6 months (presumably with Screening). There are THOUSANDS of promotions that go through Screening each year and I was told that initially, there was one person doing all that screening.
5. Promotions to CW2 and 1LT are backdated. I was told this was to date of the State Fed Rec Board. For that reason, they are only done every quarter (at least for CW2) and are very LARGE lists. Of course this means they take longer. We all know how important it is to be able to pin on that rank! But at least you can take some comfort in the fact that pay is also backdated.

As I have posted before, new packets are electronically transmitted through TMT. This should help speed things up, but also provides greater visibility. However, the NGB G1Tracker we all use does not interface directly with TMT. There are updates being sent out via State channels that are more up to date than the Tracker. It would be nice to have an accurate Tracker, but we dont and it doesnt affect the status of your scroll in any way. We may not be able to track it, but it doesnt mean it is standing still.

I post this because I understand the desire for information. It doesn't solve the problem, but no one wants to lose any of you and the experience and skill you bring. By my count, there are 630 WOs somewhere in the process that have been accepted by NGB awaiting Fed Rec. A few of us are here, but there are a lot more going through it. Everyone appreciates what we all do, we just have to endure this for a while, but we will get through it. Call it an exercise in resilience. :-)

Discuss. Rationally, please. :-)

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2018 6:20 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:20:25 -0500

STOP THE PRESSES A SCROLL WAS PUBLISHED!
From CW2 Brandon L: "u06-17 Published: SO# 22; 2018-01-25 and in IPERMS"

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2018 6:58 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:58:09 -0500

Raise your hand if you were on U06-17.
Give us a chance to congratulate.
And dont just leave. Remember, our job as leaders is to make things better for those that come after us!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 29 at 2018 8:03 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:03:26 -0500

P09-17 - Published: SO# 27; 2018-01-26
Congratulations to all those on the Scroll!

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2018 7:41 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:41:39 -0500

I'm glad to see some scrolls are finally being published. U13-17 is now at 180days and still at OTJAG. This entire process is extremely frustrating to say the least.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2018 7:47 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:47:48 -0500

Here is a status update that may give some of you a little more info.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2018 1:18 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:18:56 -0500

Bad news for those on D08-17, apparently your G1 trackers showing it has been at OSD for over four months is erroneous. My state's G1 just relayed an update to me that showed that scroll as being reported in error. It is actually at DMPM as of 310 days on your trackers. Sorry.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2018 3:59 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:59:23 -0500

This is what I was sent as of 24 January 2018. Obviously doesn't tell the days, but there are at least two over 300 (including D08-17 at 310 and P08-17 very close).

Response by COL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2018 10:11 AM

COL(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 10:11:56 -0500

As funny as many of these posts are...the real reason it takes so long Is that your packet has to go through, literally, 16 separate offices. This does not include what happens at your state. For some reason it has to go through like 3 separate JAG offices. This issue has been brought up by our leadership numerous times to NGB and per the usual NGB response was, "oh well." So don't expect it to get any better any time soon.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2018 12:01 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:01:43 -0500

It's things like this that make me contemplate the reserves

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2018 9:33 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:33:52 -0500

P08-17 has finally been published.. Published: SO# 31; 2018-02-01

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2018 6:27 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 18:27:24 -0500

Our state OPM is awesome. He just sent a new update. Here is the *actual* status of scrolls of of 2 Feb 2018. Those of you on D08-17, it is now back at OSD, so hopefully this means it will be signed soon.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2018 8:47 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 20:47:25 -0500

Mine is sitting at 163 days in the cycle on scroll L04-17 with JAG. My state orders are from February 2017. How much longer are they going to hold it hostage?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2018 12:56 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 12:56:45 -0500

Anyone have any idea where this is in the process. Been at OT JAG since day 77. Tracker shows it moved here today.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2018 7:42 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 07:42:34 -0500

I'm on 13-17 and we are out of OTJAG and DMPM, presently with DCS G1. How much longer are we in this thing? I'm assuming we have passed the longest offices but I know that might be wishful thinking.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2018 3:51 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 15:51:42 -0500

Latest update sent out as of 1 Feb. Probably not much news here...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2018 5:03 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:03:45 -0500

scroll call!! 13-17 finally made it to Awaiting Dir Ch of Staff Pers approval.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2018 6:17 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 18:17:19 -0500

Scroll update as of Today, 9 February 2018. Red highlighted scrolls are new or recently moved.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2018 12:57 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:57:10 -0500

My packet was sent in December to NGB and it’s still sitting at 0 days awaiting assignment to scroll. What was everyone’s average time at 0?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2018 11:00 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:00:36 -0500

Looks like D08-17 is closing in on the gap to U06-17 (327 days).

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 10:36 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:36:23 -0500

Race Against Time!!!
For those of you who haven't gotten the word, the FY18 Call to Active Duty order is out. I plan to throw my hat in the ring. However, I'm on scroll 01-18 and the deadline for CAD applications is 29JUN. I was put on scroll in OCT and 01-18 is currenlty at OTJAG. Thoughts on whether publication will occur prior to 29JUN? I'm thinking there is a 50/50 chance according to history. Any input is appriciated : -)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 2:23 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:23:59 -0500

For anyone interested, here is an updated NGAUS article about their FEDREC survey...I only wish the survey was still open so that those still waiting could have shared our experiences as well (as it seems the trend is just getting longer and longer), but there are some great resources here for contacting your elected officials:

https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/ngaus-‘fedrec’-survey-finds-frustration?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=mfortsonharwell%40mednet.ucla.edu&utm_content=February%2020%2C%202018%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Waiting%20and%20waiting%20for%20promotions

NGAUS ‘FedRec’ Survey Finds Frustration

Washington Report (February 20, 2018) Nearly half of the more than 3,000 National Guard officers from every state and territory who responded to a NGAUS survey said they waited more than 196 days for their most recent promotion to receive federal recognition. “This process is 110% ridiculous,” one respondent commented on the system that requires the Pentagon to sign off on all Guard promotions.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2018 9:50 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:50:27 -0500

D08-17 has finally published at 331 days: Published: SO# 45; 2018-02-21

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2018 1:11 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 13:11:02 -0500

Update as of 20 Feb. Looks like there might be a little movement....
Added a new sheet. This shows the status of each scroll over the last month, with yellow highlights indicating movement. Just seemed like an interesting exercise...

Response by Capt Mike Razor made Feb 27 at 2018 10:48 PM

Capt Mike Razor — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:48:05 -0500

Yes

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2018 7:58 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 07:58:04 -0500

Good to know people are talking about this problem... https://federalnewsradio.com/dod-personnel-notebook/2018/02/national-guard-officers-waiting-more-than-half-a-year-for-promotions/

National Guard officers waiting more than half a year for promotions

National Guard officers are facing longer wait times for their promotions from the Pentagon. A survey by The National Guard Association of the United States (NGAUS) found some officers were waiting more than six months for their promotions to receive federal recognition.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2018 5:28 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 17:28:32 -0500

P11-17 still at DMPM/252days and counting... Funny how I was expecting orders to be published around 180days, but now I'm hoping it doesn't go over 360days... Ugh... Glad I'm close to retirement. Tired of dealing with crap like this...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2018 7:57 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 07:57:08 -0500

Another day of checking my scroll. Another day of no movement. 13-17 still stuck at DCS G1. All I want is to see its at OSD. This is the worst process ever. Does this only happen to vacancy promotions? Do folks who get boarded get theirs faster? What is the difference in the process?

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Mar 11 at 2018 9:00 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:00:54 -0400

This pretty much sums it up.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2018 12:18 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:18:22 -0400

Any update on P10-17? I think we are the longest running scroll at this point.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2018 10:48 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:48:53 -0400

Update: I called Rene Marshall and apparently the site is stuck at DCS G1. I know my scroll P13-17 is actually at VCSA, 2 steps from SECDEF. We probably have 2 months to go based upon her guidance.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2018 10:59 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:59:36 -0400

Fed Rec Scroll update as of 01 Mar 2018 from our State G1 HR WO. I'm on U11-17 and patiently waiting here in California.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2018 5:13 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:13:53 -0400

I have not been on here for about a year, I'm sorry to see that nothing is better. Because of waiting time on the scrolls for W2 to W3 and W3 to W4 I will never make CW5. It has placed me to far outside the window. Good luck to all of you. There are some good congressmen out there that need something to do!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 7:23 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:23:13 -0400

P10-17 is almost there...Hoping within the next week we see our FEDREC!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 7:45 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:45:52 -0400

Scroll P13-17 we are nearly done. We are at the office of sec defense. The last step. Be checking your iperms.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 9:48 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:48:31 -0400

U11-17 showed up here today. Almost done.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 1:42 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:42:35 -0400

Glad to see all the updates on scroll movements. Anyone have updates on P11-17(266days)?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2018 8:41 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 20:41:12 -0400

***Update I received from Renee Marshall today.***
P11-17 is currently with the Vice Chief of Staff of the United State Army (VCSA).

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2018 11:45 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:45:25 -0400

Put in yet another call (only 3 total) to Ms. Marshall and left another message. If anyone gets ahold of her, can you also ask about P12-17? My FedRec tracker has been indicating "Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr" for a few weeks now. I'd greatly appreciate it!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2018 2:07 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:07:03 -0400

Update for those of you on P13-17. I spoke with Renee Marshall and she told me we have been at SECDEC since March 6. The process typically is 3 to 4 weeks, so we could see orders any day.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2018 3:41 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:41:29 -0400

Posted below is the much awaited scroll progress. I was going to fold in the other status posted by CW3 J S 11 days ago, but its hard to compare.... I tried to use abbreviations to shrink it down some...
Once again, scrolls that have changed status are highlighted yellow. I believe this data was pulled today (27 Mar)

Response by CW5(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2018 9:12 AM

CW5(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:12:33 -0400

Check your IPERMS my FEDREC order is in there. I was on U11-17. It hasn't registered on the tracker yet. Congrats to all on this list.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2018 1:16 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:16:17 -0400

Someone on this thread has shown the timeline of the process but some of the things that hold up the process can be if one person on the scroll is not qualified it gets sent back for a restart. Also there is a wait till they get a good number of people before they send up the list to create the scroll. It takes just as long as an active duty or Reserve DA promotion board. My last board met in August and FEDREC/promotion was end of May.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2018 8:51 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 08:51:20 -0400

I'm 11 days away from hitting one year with State Promotion Orders. Hopefully Scroll P10-17 gets published before I hit that mark. Waiting on the FEDREC process has almost bought me another year TIG as a Major. Any update on status would be greatly appreciated.

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Apr 2 at 2018 9:45 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 09:45:13 -0400

Here's my/ L04-17's breakdown as of 2 APR 18. I put in total days it took to hit each green (completed) phase and our next (yellow) anticipated phase marked my how many days it will have taken to actually move to that phase. If that makes sense. 151 days we have been at JAG (and all offices it encircles). My counter only counts from when the scroll started ticking (23 AUG 17), not when I was eligible. Ridiculous haha.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2018 3:27 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:27:58 -0400

This weeks update. Report said as of 17 Apr.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2018 7:29 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 07:29:40 -0400

Congratulations P13-17!

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2018 7:37 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:37:22 -0400

Today is my 1 year anniversary with State Promotion Orders. This is beyond frustrating.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2018 11:25 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:25:53 -0400

Wow I didnt see this person being our hero. But she just stood up for us.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVWA3oymymI&t=5s

National Guard FEDREC

#FEDREC U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren questioned Secretary of the Army Mark T. Esper during a Senate Armed Services Committe hearing, the delays of National ...

Response by TSgt Mark Dreyer made Apr 15 at 2018 4:33 AM

TSgt Mark Dreyer — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 04:33:55 -0400

It is actually longer, my daughter still hasn't made Captain, she has been waiting 4 years as a Reserve 1st It, still no promo date for O-3

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2018 10:32 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:32:39 -0400

Finally some feedback on P12-17 from Ms. Marshall:
"You should not be contacting me directly about promotion scrolls. If information is needed your state OPM is the office to contact. However, P12-17 is currently processing with OSD. This is the final step in the process."
My FedRec tracker is still indicating "Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr" this monring thou.

Response by 2LT Ronald Reimer made Apr 17 at 2018 10:35 AM

2LT Ronald Reimer — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:35:41 -0400

Because they only work 2 days a month, and 2 weeks a year, so it takes longer for them to do the paperwork. AD is there 20 days a month. That’s probably why. (Where is the “tongue in cheek” emoji?)

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2018 9:13 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:13:31 -0400

***Attention P11-17ers*** Update from Renee Marshall I received via email yesterday as follows:

"You should be contacting your state for an update. However, I can give you one this time. UVP scroll P11-17 is currently with OSD. This is the last and final step in the process. I cannot tell you how much longer it will be before the SECDEC signs off on the scroll."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2018 8:56 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:56:19 -0400

P01-18 AWAITING SECDEF!!!
Looks like G1 tracker has been updated. Lots of scrolls have changed status. P01-18 is awaiting SECDEF ... hopefully NLT a month before orders. I was selected on the my state's field grade assignment board in June, state order in July.

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Apr 23 at 2018 9:23 AM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:23:39 -0400

P15-17 is at SEC of Army. I haven't checked the tracker, but just got an update from my G1 office.

"P15-17 Promotion UV Awaiting Sec of the Army"

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2018 9:37 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:37:54 -0400

It looks like U13-17 is getting leap frogged by several scrolls. I wonder what gives? Even the 2018 scrolls have nearly caught up with it.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2018 5:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:40:34 -0400

Here is an approximate office/timeline breakdown for any P10-17'ers interested in an overview of our "journey" so far...

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Apr 25 at 2018 8:09 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:09:46 -0400

Big move for L04-17 today updated 25 APR 2018 at 0800. 174 days total spent at JAG.

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made Apr 28 at 2018 2:34 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:34:00 -0400

Anyone else come here several times a day to check for updates? :D

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 7:49 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 07:49:44 -0400

Alright P10-17ers, this is our week. I can feel it!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 11:12 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:12:15 -0400

P05-18 just made it to SecDef!!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 11:49 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:49:23 -0400

Question.... How are scrolls that are only at 100 and some days already sitting on the Sec Dev approval step of this and P10-17 is still not promoted.... Not to be bitter, but this has become an absolute joke and has helped me on my decision of not staying in.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 3:05 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 15:05:31 -0400

Scroll P05-18 moved to OSD today!

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 5:58 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:58:07 -0400

I've said this before but it is worth saying again. I hope that the Secretary of the Army follows up with his comments to the Senate Armed Services Committee regarding back dating promotion orders for those officers serving in higher graded positions. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to be getting promoted but at the same time I would like to be promoted on time. The back pay is not the issue for me but the lost time in grade is.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 7:45 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 May 2018 07:45:21 -0400

A trusted, reliable source here at the building let me know that P10-17 got signed last night. Shooters..watch your lane.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 8:02 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 08:02:41 -0400

Is anyone else here on P07-18? I think I'm in the same boat as a lot of people here, just watching the updates. So for those of you that are updating this board, please continue to do so. You all are keeping us motivated and our hopes alive. Thanks everyone!

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 8:19 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 08:19:05 -0400

P10-17's orders just hit iPerms. DOR is 12 APR 18

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 9:31 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 09:31:28 -0400

I am on U06-18, received state orders back in early January. My tracker sat without update and "0" days posted for over 90 days then skipped to 7 days and said at Office of Deputy Chief of Staff Personnel. Now, its at 15 days and jumped backwards to "Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General". Can anyone shed any light as why it doesn't reflect the actual days its been in the process, why it seemingly moved backwards, and how long it will take to come to resolution?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 1:04 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 13:04:25 -0400

Congrats to everyone on P10-17, and good luck to all who are still awaiting your orders! Here's a final overview of the offices/days for P10-17, and hoping that these types of delays are not experienced by any of us again in the future. I am looking forward to continuing to work together with you all to advocate for ourselves and continue to improve the process!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 4:50 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 16:50:22 -0400

Congratulations to all the P10-17ers! Any updated from P11-17ers? P12-17 is still holding at the same Sec Def stage and nothing hit iPerms yet. I'm assuming they can't be that far behind P10-17.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2018 11:47 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 May 2018 11:47:22 -0400

P15-17, P01, P02, P03, P04, P05-18 all pretty much went through Scrolled, OTJAG, DMPM, SECDEF at the same time. Interesting to see in which order they will get published. Scroll number sequence means nothing apparently. PLACE YOUR BETS!!!

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made May 3 at 2018 1:47 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Thu, 03 May 2018 13:47:01 -0400

Glad to see the wheels are turning!

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made May 4 at 2018 2:13 PM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Fri, 04 May 2018 14:13:24 -0400

P15-17 just moved to OSD this morning on the tracker! Spent a total of 11 days at Sec Army.

Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; P15-17; 226 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2018 3:19 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 May 2018 15:19:50 -0400

BACKPAY TO STATE PROMOTION ORDER!!! ONLY FOR THOSE STILL IN THE FEDREC PROCESS AND NOT FOR THOSE ALREADY FEDERALLY RECONGNIZED.

Legislation: Back Pay for Promotion Delay
NGAUS expects bipartisan legislation to be introduced today, May 8th 2018, in the House and Senate that would provide National Guard officers with back pay to the date of their state promotions once their boost in rank is recognized by the Defense Department.

It would also require the service secretaries to review the entire promotion process and recommend fixes that would prevent long delays between state promotions and federal recognition of those promotions.
The National Guard Promotion Accountability Act will be introduced by Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., in the Senate. Rep. Trent Kelly, R-Miss., and Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, D-N.H., are expected to sponsor the House version.

Guard officers often take on jobs of their higher rank following state promotions, but wait months for completion of the federal paperwork, which is when they begin receiving the higher pay. If Congress approves this legislation, officers still on the waiting list when the president signs it into law would receive the pay hike back to the date of their state promotions, which would become their dates of rank.

The pay would not be retroactive for officers already federally recognized when the law is signed.

“National Guard officers are 21st-century combat leaders saddled with a 20th-century promotion process,” said retired Brig. Gen. Roy Robinson, the NGAUS president. “The agonizingly long wait times hurt morale and contribute to some leaving the force. This legislation should help reform the process. Guard officers nationwide appreciate the sponsors’ recognizing the problem and offering these common-sense fixes.”

He pointed out, too, that NGAUS is the only military-service organization to take on the federal recognition process.

Under the current system, many Guard officers have waited more than six months for their promotion to be finalized. Defense Department data show that nearly 7,000 Guardsmen are currently cooling their heels and have been for an average of 285 days. In fact, the data also show that the fastest a promotion list, called a scroll, has been approved this year is 245 days.

This issue began receiving attention last fall after NGAUS officials heard about it from officers at various state association conferences. A survey conducted by NGAUS exposed the breadth of the problem and the association has made it a priority.

Warren, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, even questioned Army Secretary Mark Esper about it during his confirmation hearing in November.

https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/legislation-back-pay-promotion-delay?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] &utm_content=May%208%2C%202018%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Back%20Pay%20for%20Promotion%20Delay%20Introducedhttps://http://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/legislation-back-pay-promotion-delay?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term= [login to see] &utm_content=May%208%2C%202018%20%28WR%29&utm_campaign=Back%20Pay%20for%20Promotion%20Delay%20Introduced

Legislation: Back Pay for Promotion Delay

NGAUS Washington Report May 8, 2018 NGAUS expects bipartisan legislation to be introduced today in the House and Senate that would provide National Guard officers with back pay to the date of their state promotions once their boost in rank is recognized by the Defense Department.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2018 10:32 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 May 2018 10:32:08 -0400

When this journey began I checked the tracker once a month. As my scroll finally started moving, I was checking it once a week. When it cleared DMPM/JAG I started checking it once a day. It has since become an obsession. Now that it is at SECDEF I find myself checking it several times a day. I will be glad when the madness is over. U13-17, 278 days...and still counting.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2018 10:40 AM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 May 2018 10:40:36 -0400

Looks like P14-17 just published

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2018 12:21 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 May 2018 12:21:21 -0400

The much anticipated "Status of the Scrolls"....
3 weeks since previous update, so a lot of action.
No one in my State on U03, U05, U07, U08 (assuming they exist) so I wont get any status on them.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2018 4:28 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 May 2018 16:28:29 -0400

Outstanding!

https://www.facebook.com/NGAUS1878/videos/ [login to see] 414102/

National Guard Association of the United States - NGAUS

Yesterday Congress introduced The National Guard Promotion Accountability Act, bills S. 2801 and HR. 5713, to address nearly 7,000 Guardsmen waiting for federal recognition of their promotions. For...

Response by CW3 Michael Bodnar made May 10 at 2018 8:58 AM

CW3 Michael Bodnar — Thu, 10 May 2018 08:58:17 -0400

Help is on the way folks. I'm currently 230 days into waiting on CW2.

https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/warren-daines-shea-porter-kelly-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-streamline-national-guard-promotion-process

Warren, Daines, Shea-Porter, Kelly Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Streamline National Guard...

The Official U.S. Senate website of Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2018 6:42 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 May 2018 18:42:44 -0400

Is this the week for P11-17? I certainly hope so....

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2018 6:12 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 May 2018 18:12:12 -0400

This weeks scroll update. I took off scrolls that have been approved for a while. If you want that historical data, its still posted further below.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2018 7:53 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 May 2018 07:53:40 -0400

I could be mistaken, but I don't think a single scroll has been approved this week. Today is still early though....

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2018 8:28 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 May 2018 08:28:40 -0400

U13-17 290 days and counting. It is getting harder and harder to maintain my military bearing on this subject.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2018 12:23 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 May 2018 12:23:58 -0400

As of 22 May...

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 7:40 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 07:40:55 -0400

UPDATE: U13-17 has published effective 22MAY18. DOR is 8MAY18.........FINALLY!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2018 8:32 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 May 2018 08:32:23 -0400

UPDATE P01-18 Published yesterday ... effective date 04MAY2018.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2018 6:59 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 May 2018 06:59:11 -0400

U14-17 also published 23 May....

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2018 7:30 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 May 2018 07:30:25 -0400

ATTENTION P11-17

CHECK YOUR PERMS!!!

Response by MSG Michael McEleney made May 28 at 2018 8:58 PM

MSG Michael McEleney — Mon, 28 May 2018 20:58:31 -0400

Why is the Reserve Officers Association taking action on this?

Response by MAJ Kahren Aydinyan made May 30 at 2018 6:57 AM

MAJ Kahren Aydinyan — Wed, 30 May 2018 06:57:51 -0400

P15-17 PUBLISHED!!
FedRec-Promotion-UV to CPT, MAJ, LT
Description Published: SO# 118; 2018-05-29

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 10:10 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 May 2018 10:10:56 -0400

Ok now that we have gotten our promotions how do we backdate the DOR. We have strength in numbers. We need to share the intel as we get it. Anyone trying to backdate the DOR yet?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 12:36 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 May 2018 12:36:39 -0400

P15-17 hit perms DOR is 21May

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 5:09 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:09:59 -0400

U10-18 in the house, lets get this watch party started!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2018 10:56 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 31 May 2018 10:56:28 -0400

I'm beyond frustrated with this entire process, I'm on P04-18 and it seems to be just sitting there at SECDEF. My understanding in the past has always been that once it gets there it should only take a couple weeks and you'll have orders in hand. It seems now that this scroll is just sitting there being held for some reason.

Anyone have any insight into this process and why it's taking so long at a step that in the past has always been one of the quickest steps? This scroll is working on having been at SECDEF for 40 days. I also realize that others have had it a lot worse especially the -17 year scrolls. However, it is still very discouraging to keep checking the tracking and see no progress when it should be done already!

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 5 at 2018 12:29 PM

CPT Griff Tatum — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 12:29:59 -0400

So D16-17 (242 Days Total) is at ASAMRA and has been there the same time as my scoll L04-17 (272 Days Total). Seems about right. But, Scroll P03-18 hit ASAMRA and then hit SECDEF 14 Days later, and only has a total day count of 152 Days total. More than 100 less days that either of the two above scrolls. Either my scroll L04-17 and D16-17 had some jacked up paperwork in comparison to P03-18 or something else happened. Call me insane for looking so in depth. Id love to be a fly on some of these scrolls as they go through the process. However, Thanks CW5 Private RallyPoint Member for the info along this journey.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2018 2:17 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:17:40 -0400

Well, looks like the new legislation may get vetoed at the White House if it pass the House and Senate...

https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/white-house-opposes-‘fedrec’-legislation?https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__send.ngaus.org_link.cfm-3Fr-3DTRsMFkgwIFIgS9hypF0hNg-7E-7E-26pe-3D3aFVU-2D-2DiUIZcfVv9CFMaOOhyO1Sv6qj99jpVxBzz1l88epTHfztBJldMrwgIddcl48koMsUapJpz70hT29oEqQ-7E-7E-26t-3Dj90fbJjz5qhkIErza3gK7A-7E-7E&d=DwMFAw&c=UXmaowRpu5bLSLEQRunJ2z-YIUZuUoa9Rw_x449Hd_Y&r=tYY4EPPrLJV9qKnSxqvh73VOfk4bqYwjJAwf_IjSZ8s&m=ZR3YkZC-n7HYHJ3QJZqjIKRsA28VXaLwr9sYB18aPuc&s=Os_vXlVS9Tnx_l7h_84nV41_C_lA3-1M9SiG7q9Z9sg&e=

Copied below since the link isn't working for some reason:

White House Opposes ‘FedRec’ Legislation
NGAUS Washington Report
June 5, 2018

Legislation to hasten federal recognition of National Guard officer promotions does not have the blessing of the White House. The administration of President Trump cites “inequitable treatment” of Guard and active-component and Reserve officers as one reason it opposes the National Guard Promotion Accountability Act.
Guard officers commonly wait in excess of six months and sometimes much longer for the Pentagon to approve a promotion already endorsed by the state. The additional pay does not kick in until the federal recognition, but the officer may spend those months performing the job of the higher rank while receiving the lower rank’s pay.
Help shape the future of the National Guard
The act, which has the support of NGAUS, requires service secretaries to review the process in an attempt to complete it more quickly. It would also provide some officers with back pay to the time of the state promotion.
But active-component and Reserve officers wait, too, for recognition of their promotions. Sometimes six months pass from the promotion board’s recommendation to the final approval. The administration thinks it would be unfair to back-date the Guard promotions, as the legislation would do, but not the others.
The bill is included in the House version of the fiscal 2019 National Defense Authorization Act, H.R. 5515, and some version of the legislation is expected to be in the Senate NDAA when it is released this week or next.
Following the release of the House NDAA, the White House Statement of Administration Policy had this to say regarding the section on Guard officer promotions: “By mandating an effective date of promotion after Federal Recognition based upon the actions of a Governor of a State, the provision infringes on the authority of the President and Secretaries of military departments to appoint officers in the National Guard of the United States, which is part of the military’s Reserve Component. This provision would result in inequitable treatment among National Guard officers and similarly situated Regular Army, Regular Air Force, United States Army Reserve, and United States Air Force Reserve officers who are also subject to review before their appointment is tendered.”
During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing in April, Army Secretary Mark Esper signaled his support for a change, saying to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., “I think there are ways we can reduce the time.” He also agreed when Warren said the current system threatens morale.
Warren and Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., are authors of the Senate’s National Guard Promotion Accountability Act. The House bill is sponsored by Rep. Trent Kelly, R-Miss., and Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, D-N.H.

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Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2018 2:28 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:28:18 -0400

White House Opposes 'FedRec' Legislation
Legislation to hasten federal recognition of National Guard officer promotions does not have the blessing of the White House. The administration of President Trump cites "inequitable treatment" of Guard and active-component and Reserve officers as one reason it opposes the National Guard Promotion Accountability Act.

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 7 at 2018 7:59 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 07:59:16 -0400

Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; L04-17; 288 Days in DoD Approval cycle
7 Jun 18

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2018 9:35 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 09:35:07 -0400

Anyone know if 1LT Joshua Yabut was on a scroll?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2018 6:57 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:57:35 -0400

Has anything published this week??? hello P04-18 how long are you going to be on vacation at the SECDEF office??

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2018 7:46 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:46:34 -0400

The maddening part about this whole process isn't the wait. It's the lack of transparency in the whole process. There is no apparent reason for a particular scroll to take longer in one station than one of the other's. Example, Scroll P07-18 (my scroll) took less than a week to get through JAG and DMPM, whereas multiple other scrolls took months just to get through JAG.

I'm in no way saying there needs to be another bureaucratic committee, but an investigative oversight group that could be outsiders looking in and seeing how this affects careers would be helpful. Or even just less eyes looking at it. Why can't we have a "Promotion's Department" or even a planned schedule upon receiving our state promotion orders? I digress... I'm not really looking for those questions to be answered, I'm merely beginning to understand the frustrations of the 2017 Scrolls, although I'm nowhere near their struggle-bus level, with my paltry 120 days.

Good luck to all you future promotables out there! I sincerely hope the system is fixed prior to you being assigned a scroll.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2018 2:34 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:34:08 -0400

Update as of 5 Jun

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2018 7:58 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:58:28 -0400

Looks like the portal is down this morning. Could be agood sign....last time the portal when down like this, a bunch of scrolls were published.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2018 12:58 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:58:12 -0400

Any bets on whether or not anything gets approved this week? Based on the last few weeks my bet is on no, I'll be surprised at this point if mine gets approved by this fall.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2018 7:18 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:18:09 -0400

P02-18 and P03-18 have posted

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2018 10:38 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:38:17 -0400

Where is 04-18?? It moved through the process at the same days as 02-18 and 03-18......

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 12 at 2018 11:33 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:33:14 -0400

So going off of what collective data this post has to offer, there are about 22 scrolls total. 7 of them are at SECDEF:((SCROLL: DAYS AT SECDEF/TOTAL DAYS)) D16-17: 6/262, L04-17: 6/292, P04-18: 34/153, P05-18: 34/153, S08-17: 34/264, U01-18: 34/172, U02-18: 34/172.
(Roughly)

Going off of the already approved scrolls for the past month, most of them spent 27 days total at SECDEF. Then some about the same amount 41, 48....ehhhh.....68, and 68 days for all the others.
Ideally, the model states a total of 23 (business) days it takes to go through the few offices at SECDEF. We all know that we usually wait double or triple the time- 46-69 days for actual approval once at this stage.
In conclusion, I find that if you analyze the patterns and do some math, it's a much easier way to see the light at the end of the tunnel rather than aimlessly hoping. And 8 days away from hitting the 300 day mark, Im hoping pretty hard, haha.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2018 12:49 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Jun 2018 12:49:33 -0400

3-18 published yesterday

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2018 5:45 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:45:22 -0400

P12-17er here. My paperwork STILL has not hit my iPerms yet. After pushing it up to BN which then pushed it up higher, I'm being told that my record was deleted sometime after it published and before it hit my iPerms. So I'm currently stuck in limbo. The fun apparently never ends...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2018 10:20 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:20:38 -0400

Well another week down with no dice, maybe next week, at least some scrolls moved this week.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2018 8:58 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:58:53 -0400

Based on the fact P04 and P05 did not publish this morning, I would guess that means it's probably another week at least. Seems in the past scrolls tend to publish on Tuesday morning although not always, we very well may be looking at another week with no scrolls published. Hope I'm wrong but that's my guess...

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2018 6:02 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:02:47 -0400

I wonder if the Space Force promotions will be any quicker?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2018 2:15 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 02:15:44 -0400

Any updates on U01-18

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2018 8:49 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:49:37 -0400

Is it too soon to start complaining about P06-18? At G1 for almost a month now...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2018 10:33 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 10:33:00 -0400

Any bets on next week for P04 or P05?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2018 8:40 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:40:43 -0400

My state order posted 17 Dec 17, but my packet didn't get assigned a scroll until May 18. Can anyone provide any update to P11-18? I have asked internally, but received zero response. I'm a little curious when the tracking timeline begins, as I have received a ton of answers from s.h.-lawyers. It had already been five/six months when they finally came around to assigning a scroll #. So another six to nine months if we're lucky? Thanks in advance!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 7:28 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 07:28:24 -0400

Sad to see P09-18 still stuck in the mud not moving anywhere. I had hope we were moving quick but now Dir Ch of Staff Pers has us trapped!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 7:35 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 07:35:11 -0400

P04-18 Published this morning. Congrats everybody!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 8:47 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 08:47:34 -0400

P04-18, P05-18, and U02-18 have published today. Congrats!

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 26 at 2018 9:04 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:04:54 -0400

L04-17 published! 307 days on the tracker.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 10:16 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:16:22 -0400

P05-18 effective 25 June

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 10:48 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:48:59 -0400

L04-17 HAS PUBLISHED!!!!
"Published: SO# 140; 2018-06-25"

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2018 12:51 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:51:01 -0400

Correct me if I'm wrong but there is back pay from the DOR on FedRec for 1LT and up?

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2018 8:46 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:46:46 -0400

U01-18 posted, DOR is 1 Jun.
187 days plus about 4 months before 'day 0'

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 28 at 2018 10:58 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Jun 2018 10:58:13 -0400

I got my state order 16JUN2017 for 1LT, but it says I'm only on day 121. I'm on scroll L02-18. At this point I'm just going to skip 1LT and turn in my packet for CAPT or branch transfer to Space Force. I hear BAH on the moon is going to be awesome!

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 30 at 2018 9:11 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Sat, 30 Jun 2018 09:11:32 -0400

General question for this post: How long does it take for AKO or "most Army systems" like ERB/ORB, SIB transactions, etc. to reflect the new rank? Even though everything is in iPerms, Im trying to stay one step ahead so I sent my FEDREC to our staff so they may be able to action something I cannot. I dont expect them to dig in my iPerms and do it for me without requesting. Would getting my CAC updated help the process?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2018 9:38 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:38:24 -0400

Anyone tracking P10-18?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2018 2:44 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:44:47 -0400

Where is Mad Dog Mattis at this week with his swift pen?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2018 7:01 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:01:16 -0400

Happy Anniversary to me I have passed 1 year as a 1LT Company Commander. Yes, 1 year where I cannot be a Senior Rater without having to have a supplementary reviewer. I can sign well over a million dollars worth of property and be accountable for personnel actions but I need an O3 to check my NCOER's. I have the feeling that I will do my entire command time as a 1LT but who's complaining Happy Anniversary to me!

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2018 2:29 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:29:40 -0400

Sorry its been so long. Combination of a couple different factors....
For some reason, the status of D16-17 dropped off my report.
Next week, or whenever I do the next one, I'll drop off all the approved lists but wanted to get a snapshot in time up here.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2018 8:14 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 08:14:33 -0400

D16-17 Published!! Congrats to everyone else on the scroll!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2018 11:50 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:50:47 -0400

Has anyone else experienced the Career Site being down since yesterday?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2018 3:04 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:04:34 -0400

Any Tuesday update? I haven't been able to check yet this week.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2018 8:29 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:29:43 -0400

Has anything moved in the last three weeks?

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2018 9:22 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 09:22:21 -0400

06-18 published! I think we were at around 190 days, which makes me very grateful. I really feel for all you guys who were 300+ while working positions of higher grade.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2018 5:03 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 05:03:58 -0400

P08-18 is on to the SEC DEF. Hopefully others got updated also.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2018 11:30 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 11:30:21 -0400

Where is P07-18? Anyone know if its signed?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2018 11:58 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 11:58:34 -0400

12-18 updated today and for the first time is showing an actual status of "Awaiting Off Dep Ch of Staff Personnel". Anybody know if that's what the process calls DCS, G1?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2018 2:25 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 14:25:43 -0400

P10-18 updated to Off Dep Ch of Staff Personnel

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2018 10:14 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:14:24 -0400

P08-18 is at the SecDef. Only "130" days in the approval cycle. Should only be a month, month and half tops, left to go.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2018 6:43 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:43:40 -0400

P09-18 published last night for those that are tracking. Congrats to all!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2018 11:21 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 11:21:59 -0400

I don't want a "major shake-up", I just want to get promoted on time. My DOR is 20 July 2017 for a promotion I have yet to receive. Congrats to P07-18 and P09-18!

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/08/02/militarys-officer-promotion-system-may-see-major-shake.html

The Military's Officer Promotion System May See Major Shake-Up

The sometimes-rigid officer promotion system could see major shake-ups after Congress approved a series of reforms.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2018 10:02 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 22:02:06 -0400

P07 and P09 -18 are published?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2018 8:42 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:42:21 -0400

Any update on L02-18 or guesstimates anyone wants to throw out?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2018 10:38 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:38:56 -0400

I'm here to check on scrolls and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anyone have any updates? This thread has gotten a little stale since CW5 Bruce B. promoted. P10-18 is showing 120 days. What scrolls are longer than 120?

Response by SMSgt David A Asbury made Aug 29 at 2018 7:27 PM

SMSgt David A Asbury — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 19:27:32 -0400

The Federal government has always had it's hands in the Military Promotion system. Enough said

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2018 11:18 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:18:29 -0400

Its been a while, but I got an update yesterday....
Will post this one, just for the whole picture...

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2018 11:19 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:19:42 -0400

And, will update this one in the future, taking out everything already completed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2018 12:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:17:47 -0400

My opinion....big Army slowing the process.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2018 3:19 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:19:51 -0400

Not many updates, but here it is.
Current as of 11 Sep

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2018 7:31 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:31:55 -0400

U06-18 Published today, so I hope the others nearby were part of that approval. Date of Rank 19 September.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2018 9:29 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:29:26 -0400

Congratulations U06-18! U04-18, L03-18, and L02-18 need to chime-in to update us on their status.

Usually all the scrolls at SecDef are signed at the same time. If that's the case, P10-18 would become the oldest scroll at 143. If L03-18 published, it would really help bring the average scroll time down with only 114 days on scroll.

The system is not perfect yet, but since I've been tracking over the last 6 months, the process has gotten significantly better. I hope the people in DC that are assigned the project of improving the process don't read this and think they are done. We are far from done.

I have almost completed a whole NG deployment in an O3 slot. I'm missing $42 per day and performing a BDE Primary Staff position as an O2. The latter makes it difficult to interact with staff in my subordinate BNs as they outrank me.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2018 2:49 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Sep 2018 14:49:15 -0400

Looks like LO2-18 is still sitting at SecDef at 211 days unfortunately. Hopefully we get some movement soon. Have any other scrolls had movement at SecDef this week?

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2018 10:06 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 10:06:17 -0400

Going through the same thing brother. Me and several others. Not to mention pay is messed up bonuses lost. All kinds of stuff. I honestly believe it lies at HRC.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2018 5:04 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 05:04:36 -0400

LO3-18 Published on OCT 4
I'm assuming the scrolls that were pending SEC DEF approval has all been given the green light.
Congratulations to everyone promoting.
I know it been a long wait.
I hope we LT get backdated and back-pay.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2018 4:12 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 16:12:49 -0400

Quick article by NGAUS about improving FEDREC wait times. The author writes, "Some National Guard officers are waiting 40 percent less for federal recognition of their state promotions since NGAUS cast a light on lengthy delays in the process."

I'm glad that the article ends with the NGAUS president BG (Ret.) Roy Robinson quoted saying, "But we can’t be satisfied yet. This process used to take just a couple months. With all the background information available now electronically, we should be able to get back to that."

https://www.ngaus.org/about-ngaus/newsroom/fedrec-wait-times-see-dramatic-drop

Fedrec Wait Times See Dramatic Drop

Some National Guard officers are waiting 40 percent less for federal recognition of their state promotions since NGAUS cast a light on lengthy dela

Response by Lt Col Bill Fletcher made Oct 13 at 2018 8:38 AM

Lt Col Bill Fletcher — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:38:39 -0400

Is just an Army issue? I never had a problem other than the longer time in grade requirements with promotions. If you were in a slot for the grade and had all other prerequisites met boom! Promoted. That is my experience from the GA ANG.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2018 2:07 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:07:54 -0400

U10-18 seems to have been at JAG for a while now. Anyone know the average time for JAG on the Warrant promotion packets?

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2018 8:18 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:18:00 -0400

Anyone from Scroll P10-17 start the process to adjust your DOR through the Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR)?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2018 8:58 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:58:08 -0400

U09-18 effective DOR 2 OCT 2018.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2018 9:19 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:19:20 -0400

Anyone on Scroll U(d)07-18? Haven't heard anything about the status in a while.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2018 11:35 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:35:36 -0400

WOW! I am a P11-18 and we just got ours published at around day 110'ish (Published 10-19-2018) (around 150'ish if you count the days it didn't tick). Congrats to my fellow scrollmates and Godspeed to the subsequent scrolls! May your venture on the promo-scroll be short lived!

Response by LtCol Paul Bowen made Oct 29 at 2018 12:23 AM

LtCol Paul Bowen — Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:23:01 -0400

Low Turnover

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2018 9:49 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:49:22 -0400

As of 29Oct18:
L04-18 - OTJAG
PL10-18 - CSA
PL11-18 - Check iPERMS for published order (Yes - this is correct!)
PL12-18 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - OTJAG
PL14-18 - Adverse Screening
PL15-18 - Adverse Screening
SL06-18 - Adverse Screening
SL01-19 - DMPM
U(d) 07-18 - OSD
U(d) 11-18 - OTJAG
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U09-18 Check iPERMS for published order
U10-18 - Adverse Screening
U12-18 - OTJAG
U13-18 - OTJAG
U14-18 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2018 3:21 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:21:38 -0400

U10-18 just moved on from JAG today. Now it is Awaiting Dir Ch of Staff Pers approval; U10-18; 139 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2018 2:42 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:42:16 -0400

As of 01 NOV 2018:
L04-18 - OTJAG
PL10-18 - Ckeck eTracker for published order
PL11-18 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL12-18 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - OTJAG
PL14-18 - Adverse Screening
PL15-18 - Adverse Screening
PL01-19 - DMPM
SL06-18 - Adverse Screening
SL01-19 - DMPM
U(d) 07-18 - Check iPERMS for published order
U(d) 11-18 - OTJAG
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U09-18 Check iPERMS for published order
U10-18 - Adverse Screening
U12-18 - OTJAG
U13-18 - OTJAG
U14-18 - OTJAG
U01-19 - DMPM
U02-19 - DMPM

Response by CPT Brad Wilson made Nov 4 at 2018 6:54 PM

CPT Brad Wilson — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 18:54:12 -0500

Hopefully it wasn’t on a deployment. I came on orders 2 months early to help with the mobilization. I got my Federal Recognition and was (pinned) in July of 2007 but the effective date was April of 2007 so I was on active duty that whole time so the back pay was around $3000. The IRS considered it a bonus and kept almost $1500 of it even though it wasn’t a bonus

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2018 3:49 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:49:09 -0500

I know its been a while, sorry about that. As I have said, I cant generate the data I use for this chart, I just massage what I am sent by our HR people....

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2018 8:20 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Nov 2018 20:20:38 -0500

P10-18 - Date of orders: 2NOV2018. Date of rank: 23OCT2018.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2018 11:04 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:04:25 -0500

How long does SecDef take? I'm on P12-18 and have been patiently waiting for orders to publish.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2018 10:02 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:02:14 -0500

A little movement on U10-18 today. "Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; U10-18; 165 Days in DoD Approval cycle"

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2018 11:32 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:32:01 -0500

P13-18 has movement! Awaiting Dir Ch of Staff Pers approval; P13-18; 69 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2018 2:27 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:27:10 -0500

Thanks to MAJ Private RallyPoint Member for the assist!

As of 16 Nov 18

L04-18 – ASA (M&RA)
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL15-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL01-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - ASA (M&RA)
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U10-18 - OSD
U12-18 - Adverse Screening
U13-18 - Adverse Screening
U14-18 - Adverse Screening
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG

probably won't be another update until after the 26th.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2018 9:20 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:20:57 -0500

Is anyone else on scroll D11-18? Also is there any recent information on how long it is sitting at each stage? Currently at the SECDEF day 151 and am wondering how long people normally sit at that level.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2018 5:27 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 05:27:18 -0500

It is crazy town...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 3:40 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:40:36 -0500

As of 30 Nov 18

L04-18 – ASA (M&RA)
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL15-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL01-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - ASA (M&RA)
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U10-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <------ think this was the only change from the 16th of Nov.
U12-18 - Adverse Screening
U13-18 - Adverse Screening
U14-18 - Adverse Screening
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2018 4:16 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 04:16:42 -0500

As of 07 Dec 18

L04-18 – OSD
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - CSA
PL15-18 - CSA
PL01-19 - OTJAG
PL02-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - CSA
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U12-18 - CSA
U13-18 - CSA
U14-18 - CSA
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2018 4:48 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:48:55 -0500

Hope this is "better late than never"...
Our reports have not been sent out as frequently as the past. Not sure what that means...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2018 2:38 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Dec 2018 02:38:13 -0500

As of 14 Dec 18

L04-18 – OSD
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL12-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <----update
PL13-18 - OSD <----update
PL14-18 - CSA
PL15-18 - CSA
PL01-19 - CSA <---update
PL02-19 - Adverse Screening <--- update
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening <--- update
SL06-18 - CSA
SL01-19 - CSA
SL01-19 - DMPM
U(d) 11-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <----update
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U12-18 - CSA
U13-18 - CSA
U14-18 - CSA
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 4:07 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 04:07:23 -0500

As of 21 Dec 18

L04-18 – OSD
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - OSD
PL14-18 - OSD <----update
PL15-18 - OSD <----update
PL01-19 - CSA
PL02-19 - ASA <--- update
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL06-18 - OSD <----update
SL01-19 - CSA
SL02-19 - CSA <----update
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U(d) 5-19 - OTJAG <---update
U12-18 - OSD <---update
U13-18 - Sec Army
U14-18 - OSD <----update
U01-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U02-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U03-19 - OTJAG <---update
U04-19 - OTJAG <---update

Merry Christmas!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2019 6:28 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:28:35 -0500

As of 03 JAN 19

L04-18 – Check iPERMS for orders <----update
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - Check iPERMS for orders <----update
PL14-18 - OSD
PL15-18 - OSD
PL01-19 - CSA
PL02-19 - ASA
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - CSA
SL02-19 - CSA
U(d) 15-18 - Check iPERMS for orders <----update
U(d) 5-19 - OTJAG
U12-18 - OSD
U13-18 - Sec Army
U14-18 - OSD
U01-19 - Adverse Screening
U02-19 - Adverse Screening
U03-19 - OTJAG
U04-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2019 3:25 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 03:25:03 -0500

I hadn't see anyone post an update but this seems to be an important development. I am not sure if it is government shutdown related but the FEDREC HR Technician had the following update:

There is no timeline for the release of the scrolls from the OSD. As of 11 JAN 2019:
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL14-18 - OSD
PL15-18 - OSD
PL01-19 - OSD
PL02-19 - OSD
PL03-19 - ASA (M&RA)
PL04-19 - OTJ
PL05-19 - OTJ
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - OSD
SL02-19 - OSD
U(d) 5-19 - OTJAG
U12-18 - OSD
U13-18 - OSD
U14-18 - OSD
U01-19 - Adverse Screening
U02-19 - OSD (yes this is correct - the scrolls are out of order)
U03-19 - Adverse Screening
U04-19 - Adverse Screening

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2019 8:37 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Jan 2019 20:37:57 -0500

ALCON,
Here is this weeks update. No change from last week.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2019 10:55 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Feb 2019 10:55:06 -0500

U12-18 Promoted effective JAN 9, 2019

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2019 6:03 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 02 Feb 2019 18:03:59 -0500

An update for some of you folks.
Sorry for the crummy picture quality.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2019 11:05 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:05:49 -0500

I'm back! The last time I ran through Fed Rec it took me about 260-270 days from State Promotion Orders to Published Fed Rec Orders in IPERMS. Hopefully this time will be better, but I'm not holding my breath. Currently awaiting a scroll, time starts now.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 2:54 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:54:53 -0500

ALCON,

Here is an update. They usually come on Thursday or Friday but this was as of today.

As of 12 FEB 2019:

L01-19 - ASA (M&RA)
PL14-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL15-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL01-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL02-19 - OSD
PL03-19 - OSD
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - OSD
SL02-19 - OSD
U(d) 05-19 - OTJAG
U12-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U13-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U14-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U01-19 - ASA (M&RA) (yes, the scrolls are still ot of order)
U02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders ( yes, this is correct - the scrolls are out of order)
U03-19 - Adverse Screening
U04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - DMPM

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2019 8:01 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:01:21 -0500

As of 22 FEB 2019:

L01-19 - OSD
PL01-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL03-19 - OSD
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - OSD
SL02-19 - OSD
U(d) 05-19 - OSD
U14-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U01-19 - CSA (yes, the scrolls are still ot of order)
U02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders ( yes, this is correct - the scrolls are out of order)
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 - CSA
U06-19 - OTJAG

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2019 12:19 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 12:19:50 -0500

Update as of yesterday:

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2019 12:18 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 00:18:09 -0500

Just started the Fed Rec journey. State promoted two weeks ago, Logged on today and got the message, Scroll created with packets and List. P11-19

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2019 7:57 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 07:57:46 -0500

Had published orders in iPERMS this morning. Scroll L01-19

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2019 12:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Mar 2019 12:40:27 -0400

Update, folks. What's up with PL04-19? Things seemed to move fairly quickly for a few scrolls prior, but now things seem stalled. I'm on PL05-19, and hoping by end of April!

L01-19: Published
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
PL06-19 - JAG
PL07-19 - JAG
PL08-19 - JAG
SL06-18 - OSD (out of order)
SL01-19 - Published
SL02-19 - Published
U05-19 - Published
U01-19 - OSD
U02-19 - Published
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 CSA
U06-19 - JAG

As of 11 March

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 8:24 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 08:24:09 -0400

Checking this morning, 22 March. The counter has not moved since 7 March. Looks like the tracker is down again.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 3:44 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 15:44:45 -0400

Hi all.
No update posted. Hoping for one on Monday! And hopefully it will be at OSD!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2019 3:26 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:26:25 -0400

Just kidding. I spoke too soon. An update was posted last night. Things are looking good here!
L02-19 - JAG
P04-19 - OSD
P05-19 - OSD (This is mine and means close to the end!)
P06-19 - Adverse Screening
P07-19 Adverse Screening
P08-19 - Adverse Screening
P09-19 - JAG
P10-19 - JAG
P11-19 - JAG
S06-18 - OSD
SL03-19 - JAG
U1-19 - OSD
U03-19 OSD
U04-19 OSD
U06-19 Adverse Screening
U07-19 - JAG
U08-19 - JAG
U(d)9-19 JAG

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2019 6:34 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Apr 2019 06:34:55 -0400

Update for those of us on U01-19. Orders have been published; check iPerms. I can't speak for the rest but I can confirm that this particular scroll is completed.

Published: SO# 89; 2019-03-28

My DOR is 07MAR19.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2019 9:53 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 09:53:56 -0400

I am on scroll P06-19, which was at Adverse Action Screening last week. This week I looked and got this "Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P06-19; 0 Days in DoD Approval cycle" which I thought was the first step. Did we get sent to the back of the line?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2019 1:03 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Apr 2019 13:03:05 -0400

Update per 09 APR:
L02-19 - JAG
P05-19 - OSD (BOO)
P05-19 thru P08-19 - Adverse Screening
P09-19 thru P12-19 - JAG
S03-19/SL04-19 - Jag
U03-19/U04-19 - Orders published (congrats!)
U06-19 - Advserse Screening
U07-19/U08-19 - JAG
U(d)9-19 - Jag
U10-19 - JAG

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2019 12:44 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:44:10 -0400

No update until next Monday. Have a great weekend!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2019 4:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:33:25 -0400

Sorry all. No update and I don't expect one until next week.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2019 10:22 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Apr 2019 10:22:15 -0400

As of 29 APR 2019:

L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL05-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL06-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL07-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL08-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL09-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL10-19 - Secretary of the Army
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Adverse Screening
U07-19 - Adverse Screening
U08-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2019 10:44 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 May 2019 10:44:25 -0400

As of 3 MAY 2019:

L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Adverse Screening
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U07-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U08-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2019 4:36 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 May 2019 16:36:25 -0400

As of 13 MAY 2019:

L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG

Seems like PL12-19 moved quite a bit since the previous update.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2019 1:45 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 May 2019 01:45:25 -0400

I checked tonight and still no change in scroll status noted for the long weekend.

13 MAY is still our most recent update.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2019 9:45 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 May 2019 21:45:47 -0400

What scroll are you?
Not everyone has access to iperms on a daily basis. If we can identify who is on what scroll it may give others on the same scroll a heads up to check their records. Sometimes a scroll will publish and we won't even know due to time delays, etc

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2019 10:33 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 May 2019 10:33:41 -0400

Update: P06-19 - Orders Published, check IPERMS

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 2 at 2019 2:13 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Jun 2019 14:13:12 -0400

Update As of 31 MAY:
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Check Iperms
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
PL15-19 - Adverse Screening
PL16-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Office Secretary of Defense
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - Adverse Screening
U12-19 - OTJAG

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2019 9:49 AM

1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:49:57 -0400

Update: P07-19 - Orders Published, check IPERMS. I have DOR as 14 May.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2019 8:10 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:10:16 -0400

Update As of 7 JUN:

L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL07-19 - Check Iperms for published orders
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Vice Chief of Staff - Army
PL12-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense (scrolls are out of order)
PL13-19 - Vice Chief of Staff - Army
PL14-19 - ASA (M&RA)
PL15-19 - OTJAG
PL16-19 - OTJAG
SL03-19 - Vice Chief of Staff - Army
SL04-19 - Vice Chief of Staff - Army
SL05-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
U07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
U08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
U(d)9-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - Adverse Screening
U12-19 - OTJAG
U13-19 - OTJAG

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2019 2:00 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 14:00:47 -0400

because the packets go into an in box on someone's desk at G1 and they sit there until they have a certain number (50 is what I've been told) to process so they can do them in bulk instead of one at a time as they come in.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2019 4:50 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:50:39 -0400

I'm sure this will speed things up... https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/shanahan-out-defense-secretary/index.html

Shanahan withdraws as Trump's defense pick, as domestic incidents resurface

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan has "decided not to go forward with his confirmation process." Shanahan's withdrawal was announced shortly after the Washington Post published a report detailing a violent incident in 2011 in which his son attacked his own mother with a baseball bat.

Response by CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2019 4:04 PM

CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:04:35 -0400

Anybody else wondering if their fed rec packet fell into a black hole?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2019 9:13 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 21:13:38 -0400

I checked last night and they were still showing the last update from 7 JUN 19. Has anyone from P08-19 seen anything in their iPerms?

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2019 3:46 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Jun 2019 15:46:24 -0400

Saw this today from a google search... from the ARNG KY G1 newsletter (not in the KY guard, just popped up on a google search). As of 01JUN2019.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2019 7:43 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:43:58 -0400

So this is the update I saw today:
Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will published for generation of promotion orders when received.

** The rest of the message was the as of June 7th update **

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2019 1:31 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:31:50 -0400

P08-19 was published today! The wait is over, congrats to my fellow P08-19 cohorts! (Tracker states published, but not in iperms yet)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2019 5:55 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jun 2019 17:55:45 -0400

Update as of 28 June 2019:

PL08-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL09-19 - OSD (Yes scrolls are out of order)
PL10-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL11-19 - OSD
PL12-19 - OSD
PL13-19 - VCSA
PL14-19 - OSD
PL15-19 - ASA
PL16-19 - ASA
PL17-9 - OTJAG
PL18-19 - OTJAG
PL19-19 - Averse Screening
SL03-19 - OSD
SL04-19 - OSD
SL05-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - OSD
U07-19 - OSD
U08-19 - OSD
U(d)9-19 - ASA
U10-19 - OSD
U11-19 - OSD
U12-19 - OTJAG
U13-19 - OTJAG
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2019 3:26 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 15:26:50 -0400

No updates on PL09-19, and I doubt we'll see any the rest of this week. I find it humorously/frustratingly ironic that the scroll has spent nearly double the time at the last step (OSD) than it did at the other steps. The only thing I can think of is that the scroll has been signed and there's just a lag in publishing the orders.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2019 4:46 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:46:12 -0400

I have a reliable connection that has good intel from NGB. He mentioned that PL9-19, PL12-19 and PL14-19 have been published. I don't know if they are in Iperms yet though....

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2019 8:12 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Jul 2019 20:12:26 -0400

Just checked and PL9-19 has been approved. Congratulations to all of my fellow officers on that scroll. It's been frustrating that the scroll was up at OSD for 2 1/2 months, but we've been fortunate considering some scrolls have taken more than a year to publish.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Jul 14 at 2019 10:06 PM

CW4 Craig Urban — Sun, 14 Jul 2019 22:06:50 -0400

Money and the slot movement process is complicated. I was appointed as a reserve warrant officer in 1975 and I was a regular army NCO. The army does strange things. Do they learn from their mistakes? Sometimes. Not going after Russia after WW2. WMD? Iraq? Iran?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2019 8:40 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:40:47 -0400

Can you post an updated list please. Thank you

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2019 2:20 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:20:03 -0400

Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will published for generation of promotion orders when received.

** The rest of the message was the as of July 12th update **

L02-19 Office of SecDef
L03-19 OTJAG
PL09-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL11-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL12-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL13-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL14-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL15-19 Office of SecDef
PL16-19 Office of SecDef
PL17-19 OTJAG
PL18-19 OTJAG
PL19-19 OTJAG
SL03-19 Office of SecDef
SL04-19 Office of SecDef
SL05-19 Office of SecDef
U06-19 Check iPerms for published orders
U07-19 Check iPerms for published orders

Response by Sgt Dean Kutz Sr. made Jul 18 at 2019 8:52 AM

Sgt Dean Kutz Sr. — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:52:20 -0400

There’s a whole Lotta paperwork and Red cape

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2019 4:44 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:44:17 -0400

As of 19Jul
# on Scroll # of Days Current Status As of:
First Lieutenant Promotions
L02-19 552 ? OSD 12 JUL 19
L03-19 620 ? OTJAG/Adv 25 JUN 19
Presidential Scrolls (CPT-LTC)
P11-19 51 123 OSD 19 JUN 19
P13-19 49 81 OSD 10 JUL 19
P15-19 50 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P16-19 51 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P17-19 50 35 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P18-19 47 31 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P19-19 47 25 OTJAG 25 JUN 19
P20-19 67 2 OTJAG/Adv 18 JUL 19

Senate Scrolls (COL)
S03-19 12 123 OSD 14 JUN 19
S04-19 12 107 OSD 19 JUN 19
S05-19 19 51 OSD 12 JUL 19
S06-19 12 0 OTJAG 19 JUL 19
CW2 Scrolls
U(d) 09-19 110 122 OSD 12 JUL 19
U(d) 14-19 151 24 OTJAG/Adv 21 JUN 19

Warrant Officer Scrolls (CW3-CW5)
U11-19 76 85 OSD 14 JUN 19
U12-19 63 59 OTJAG 17 JUN 19
U13-19 50 46 OTJAG/Adv 3 JUL 19
U15-19 55 16 OTJAG 5 JUL 19
U16-19 54 4 OTJAG/Adv 15 JUL 19

All previous scrolls approved

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2019 1:08 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:08:33 -0400

Its been a week since our last update. Hopefully they push out something by the end of the day

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2019 10:20 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:20:14 -0400

Well. My scroll seems to be moving just as fast as pond water.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2019 9:16 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:16:38 -0400

Anyone happen to have access to their enterprise email and is willing to check to see if there is a new update? If you are, let me know and I can send you the directions on how to get the most recent update

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2019 8:17 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:17:44 -0400

P11-19 has orders published, check your Iperms!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2019 12:57 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 12:57:39 -0400

Per Ricci Moore: Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact the scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will be published for generation of Promotion Orders when received.

Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:

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As of 05 AUG 2019:

L02-19 - Office of the SecDef

L03-19 - OTJAG

PL11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

PL13-19 - Office of the SecDef (Yes, the scrolls are out of order)

PL15-19 - Office of the SecDef

PL16-19 - Office of the SecDef

PL17-19 - Adverse Screening

PL18-19 - Adverse Screening

PL19-19 - Adverse Screening

PL20-19 - Adverse Screening

PL21-19 - OTJAG

PL22-19 - OTJAG

SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL06-19 - OTJAG

U(d)9-19 - Office of the SecDef

U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

U12-19 - Adverse Screening

U13-19 - Adverse Screening

U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening

U15-19 - Adverse Screening

U16-19 - OTJAG

U17-19 - OTJAG

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2019 8:54 AM

1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 08:54:54 -0400

L02-19 has published!!!! Hopefully that is a good sign for the rest of the scrolls at OSD

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2019 10:24 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Aug 2019 10:24:14 -0400

Per Miss Ricci Moore: Today is Friday 9 AUG 2019 and I am away from my desk. I will return on Monday 12 AUG 2019, and respond to all E-mail at my first opportunity.

Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact the scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will be published for generation of Promotion Orders when received.

Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:

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As of 08 AUG 2019:

L02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

L03-19 - OTJAG

PL13-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

PL15-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

PL16-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

PL17-19 - Adverse Screening

PL18-19 - Adverse Screening

PL19-19 - Adverse Screening

PL20-19 - Adverse Screening

PL21-19 - OTJAG

PL22-19 - OTJAG

SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef

SL06-19 - OTJAG

U(d)9-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders

U12-19 - Adverse Screening

U13-19 - Adverse Screening

U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening

U15-19 - Adverse Screening

U16-19 - OTJAG

U17-19 - OTJAG

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2019 9:16 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:16:43 -0400

As of 16 Aug..
L3-19........JAG
PL17-19.....ASA
PL18-19.....ASA
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....CSA
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
SL3-19.......OSD
SL4-19.......OSD
SL5-19.......OSD
SL6-19.......CSA
U12-19......CSA
U13-19......CSA
U(d)14-19..ASA
U15-19......ASA
U16-19......CSA
U17-19......CSA

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2019 12:11 PM

1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:11:27 -0400

Scrolls As of 09 Sept, next update projected on 16 Sept:
L03-19........ASA (M&RA)
PL17-19.....OSD
PL18-19.....OSD
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....OSD
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
PL23-19.....OTJAG
SL03-19.......OSD
SL04-19.......OSD
SL05-19.......OSD
SL06-19.......OSD
SL07-19.....OTJAG
U12-19......OSD
U13-19......OSD
U(d)14-19..ASA (M&RA)
U15-19......OSD
U16-19......OSD
U17-19......OSD
U18-19.....OTJAG
U19-19.....OTJAG

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2019 11:45 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:45:41 -0400

ARMY DIRECTIVE 2019-28, AUTHORITY TO ADJUST EFFECTIVE DATE OF PROMOTION OF A RESERVE COMMISSIONED OFFICER IN THE EVENT OF UNDUE DELAY IN FEDERAL RECOGNITION OF PROMOTION, 19 SEP 19. This directive establishes policy for identifying and addressing delays in processing Army National Guard (ARNG) unit vacancy promotion Federal recognition actions pursuant to Title 10, US Code, section 14308(f). https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-673832

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Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2019 9:47 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 21:47:28 -0400

Does anyone have an update on the scrolls? A fellow warrant in my unit said he had orders that published in his iPERMS, but I am not aware of his scroll number.

Response by CPT Robert Holden made Nov 23 at 2019 8:58 PM

CPT Robert Holden — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:58:14 -0500

It takes everything a lot longer in the reserves . Mainly because there are so full staffers in the reserves

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2019 2:49 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 14:49:33 -0500

Does anyone have an update for L04-19? Any information would help. Thank you.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2020 2:55 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Feb 2020 14:55:38 -0500

Well from the National Guard side of things you can be eligible for promotion for ever, but until a position opens up your staying right where you are regardless if you like it or not. On top of that we have to be recognized by two different sources, the state recognizes us and then it has to go up to FED REC to become official and why it takes so long, FED REC makes a priority to promote active duty over reserve, so we get the shit end of the process regardless. Honestly the military needs to do a complete overhaul of the promotion board process. When things stop moving smoothly and in a timely manner, problems need to be solved and processes need to be updated, this has been going on for years, so what they are waiting for I don't know.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2020 11:57 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:57:33 -0400

Has anyone seen any updates for scroll P16-20? I’ve had significant issues with the G1 site trying to look up and see if the scroll has moved passed day 0 yet.

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Apr 6 at 2020 1:26 PM

CPT Griff Tatum — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:26:31 -0400

G1 Gateway just opened back up (for who knows how long). Check it while you can!

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made May 1 at 2020 8:39 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Fri, 01 May 2020 08:39:36 -0400

Anyone on here looking to promote to CPT that are showing on scroll P20-20? G1 Gateway finally worked today and was able to see some change/scroll created.

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Jun 28 at 2020 2:21 PM

CPT Griff Tatum — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:21:23 -0400

Update 28 June: Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs appr; P20-20; 53 Days in DoD Approval cycle
This scroll seems to be moving fast. Started scrolling 29 April. Hope everyone else's does too.

Response by LTC Russ Smith made Jul 14 at 2020 9:11 AM

LTC Russ Smith — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:11:02 -0400

It takes so long because government is incompetent.

Response by CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2020 8:12 AM

CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:12:10 -0400

As of 31 JUL 2020

L02-20 - Adverse Actions

L03-20 - Adverse Actions

PL18-20 - Office of the SecDef

PL19-20 - Office of the SecDef

PL20-20 - Office of the SecDef

PL21-20 - Office of the SecDef

PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef

SL05-20 - Office of the SecDef

SL06-20 - Office of the SecDef

SL07-20 - Adverse Actions

U(d)11-20 - Office of the SecDef

U(d)18-20 - Adverse Actions

U12-20 - Office of the SecDef

U13-20 - Office of the SecDef

U14-20 - Office of the SecArmy

U15-20 - Adverse Actions

U16-20 - Adverse Actions

U17-20 - Adverse Actions

U19-20 - Adverse Actions

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Aug 8 at 2020 12:33 PM

CPT Griff Tatum — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 12:33:39 -0400

If your scroll is at SECDEF, it has probably already been signed, just not scanned into iPerms etc. Just saying... be patient....I heard from some people who know some people.

Response by CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2020 6:32 AM

CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:32:18 -0400

For giggles...we know nothing really changed

As of 7 AUG 2020

L02-20 - Adverse Actions
L03-20 - Adverse Actions
PL18-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL19-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL20-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL21-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL07-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Office of the SecDef
U(d)18-20 - Adverse Actions
U12-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U13-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U14-20 - Office of the SecDef
U15-20 - Adverse Actions
U16-20 - Adverse Actions
U17-20 - Adverse Actions
U19-20 - Adverse Actions

Response by CPT Griff Tatum made Aug 14 at 2020 8:13 AM

CPT Griff Tatum — Fri, 14 Aug 2020 08:13:02 -0400

How long does it take to show your change of rank in systems like iperms, email, etc?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2020 9:59 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:59:20 -0400

Only 2 days newer than the last update and still a week behind but some movement on several scrolls.

Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 08 OCT 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L03-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL24-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL25-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL26-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL27-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL28-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL29-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL05-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
SL06-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
SL07-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL08-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U(d)18-20 - Office of SecArmy
U(d)24-20 - OTJAG
U15-20 - Office of SecDef (Yes, the scrolls re out of order)
U17-20 - Office of SecDef
U19-20 - Office of SecDef
U20-20 - Office of SecArmy
U21-20 - Office of SecArmy
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 21 at 2020 8:43 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:43:36 -0400

Latest Update I can find. Hope it helps.

Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 20 OCT 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L03-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL24-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL25-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL26-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL27-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL28-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL29-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL07-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL08-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)18-20 - Office of SecArmy
U(d)24-20 - OTJAG
U15-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U17-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U19-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U20-20 - Office of the SecDef
U21-20 - Office of SecArmy
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2020 1:47 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:47:09 -0400

Any recent updates on scroll U(d)18-20?
Last I saw it was at Office of Sec Army.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2020 9:36 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:36:25 -0500

Latest I have received:

Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 13 NOV 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecDef
L03-20 - Office of the SecDef
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL24-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL25-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL26-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL27-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL28-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL29-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL01-21 - Adverse Actions
PL02-21 - OTJAG
PL03-21 - OTJAG
SL07-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL08-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)18-20 - Office of the SecDef
U(d) 24-20 - Adverse Actions
U20-20 - Office of the SecDef
U21-20 - Office of the SecDef
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
U01-21 - Adverse Actions
U02-21 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2020 12:53 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:53:03 -0500

I just got on a scroll today! P06-21. Anyone else on this scroll with me?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2021 4:41 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 16:41:26 -0500

How long are most people sitting in "Awaiting initial packet review" waiting to scroll? It's been about three months for me so far.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2021 11:25 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 07 Mar 2021 11:25:33 -0500

Everyone should check their FEDREC trackers... A bunch of orders seem to have published over the weekend...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2021 10:57 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:57:12 -0500

So......was there any actual answer to the question of why?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2021 12:35 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 00:35:04 -0400

I just got on scroll P19-21. Would anyone have any recent projections for the timeline?

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2021 5:29 PM

MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:29:10 -0400

Any updates to the current status of the scrolls? Specifically scroll P29-21

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2023 12:25 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Jul 2023 00:25:40 -0400

Is this thread dead? So many fond memories here. The new thread is not as active. https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/where-is-my-fedrec-scroll-in-the-dod-process

Where is my FEDREC Scroll in the DOD Process? | RallyPoint

I'm not sure what happened to the "unofficial" FEDREC status board that had been periodically updated with scroll status' but it seems to have been retired, missing, or removed. In any case, please feel free to use this new thread to ask questions and post updates to our little '"Promotion Purgatory Support Group". I do not work for NGB so I will not be able to get you answers, but at least we can re-establish the forum. Best of luck to y'all!...