Why is it that in almost every instance presidents have taken a stand, but the truth has always been the opposite? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>President Bush took a stand claiming Iraq had a stockpile of WMD, when this proved wrong, Bush claimed that the stockpile of WMD was flushed down the Tigris and Euphrates, which was never evidenced. Later; the President was questioned about his source of information about the WMD in Iraq, to which he replied his Intelligence agencies got the information from allies and the ally got it from an African informant. Is this a good reason to wage war against a sovereign state, whether that state is a dictatorship? I am not against the riddance of Saddam, but I am against the tale that put troops in harm&#39;s way.<br /><br />The sitting President claimed he had nothing to do with rigging the 2016 elections, but now there appears to be evidence to the contrary; why lie? When there was doubt that the election was rigged then, why not correct the issue and redo the election, regardless of whether the Opposition Candidate gave up or not; why not clear the doubt? I am only vouching for fair and unbiased information and, I don&#39;t care which candidate wins or loses a fair election. Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:53:38 -0500 Why is it that in almost every instance presidents have taken a stand, but the truth has always been the opposite? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>President Bush took a stand claiming Iraq had a stockpile of WMD, when this proved wrong, Bush claimed that the stockpile of WMD was flushed down the Tigris and Euphrates, which was never evidenced. Later; the President was questioned about his source of information about the WMD in Iraq, to which he replied his Intelligence agencies got the information from allies and the ally got it from an African informant. Is this a good reason to wage war against a sovereign state, whether that state is a dictatorship? I am not against the riddance of Saddam, but I am against the tale that put troops in harm&#39;s way.<br /><br />The sitting President claimed he had nothing to do with rigging the 2016 elections, but now there appears to be evidence to the contrary; why lie? When there was doubt that the election was rigged then, why not correct the issue and redo the election, regardless of whether the Opposition Candidate gave up or not; why not clear the doubt? I am only vouching for fair and unbiased information and, I don&#39;t care which candidate wins or loses a fair election. CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:53:38 -0500 2018-11-12T09:53:38-05:00 Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Nov 12 at 2018 10:09 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120130&urlhash=4120130 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Really good question sir. SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:09:49 -0500 2018-11-12T10:09:49-05:00 Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Nov 12 at 2018 10:20 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120153&urlhash=4120153 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To be fair, Iraq let the world think it still had WMD in order to make Iran believe it still had WMD. And it worked right up until the US invasion. CW4 Guy Butler Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:20:13 -0500 2018-11-12T10:20:13-05:00 Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Nov 12 at 2018 10:37 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120198&urlhash=4120198 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You forget about the other side of the coin! Both do this! PVT Mark Zehner Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:37:53 -0500 2018-11-12T10:37:53-05:00 Response by SSG Donald H "Don" Bates made Nov 12 at 2018 11:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120289&urlhash=4120289 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t think there is a 100% truthful politician alive or dead. SSG Donald H "Don" Bates Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:07:45 -0500 2018-11-12T11:07:45-05:00 Response by SFC James Tihanyi made Nov 12 at 2018 11:28 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120351&urlhash=4120351 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What You have to come to terms with CPT Rana is that the American Foreign policy decisions, (fake, fabricated WMDs), are greatly influenced by the ISRAEL LOBBY! For many decades now, we Americans, have been turned into &#39;Slaves&#39;, by the Agents of an alien/foreign entity, that of Zionist Israel! The, &#39;Land of the Free!&#39; is but a, &#39;PLANTATION&quot;, from where, the &#39;BLOOD and TREASURE&#39; of our people are used/abused, on the barbaric-bloody Altar of Zionism, on the World Stage! Remember! June 8, 1967, when the Air and Naval Forces of the Zionist State have attacked the, &quot;USS LIBERTY&quot; and murdered 34 and wounded/maimed another172 of our fellow citizens while attempting to sink our Intelligence Ship, off the coast of Egypt. With a &#39;friend?&#39; like that who needs enemies? SFC James Tihanyi Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:28:56 -0500 2018-11-12T11:28:56-05:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2018 11:41 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120385&urlhash=4120385 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My question what evidence has come out about the election. We have had a special counsel spending hundreds of millions and so far the only indictments actually have nothing to do with Russia????? SSG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:41:50 -0500 2018-11-12T11:41:50-05:00 Response by Sgt John Steinmeier made Nov 12 at 2018 12:24 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120461&urlhash=4120461 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I cannot confirm or deny that two friends that served in the Iraq theater were both exposed to mustard gas in separate IED attacks. Both were debriefed by unidentified civilian types and were told it never happened at the end of the debrief. Fortunately the idiots who deployed them did not realize the bulk of the WMD would be burned off in the explosion. Sgt John Steinmeier Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:24:22 -0500 2018-11-12T12:24:22-05:00 Response by LTC Trent Klug made Nov 12 at 2018 12:29 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120472&urlhash=4120472 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Your BDS and TDS is showing, but its your opinion. So have at it. LTC Trent Klug Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:29:11 -0500 2018-11-12T12:29:11-05:00 Response by SFC James Tihanyi made Nov 12 at 2018 12:38 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120494&urlhash=4120494 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One more point to contemplate! During the Iran-Iraq War, 1980- -, the culprits who introduced WMDs in the theater, was most likely the, US, Britain, France. Iraq did use WMDs, against the Iranians, where did they get it? SFC James Tihanyi Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:38:00 -0500 2018-11-12T12:38:00-05:00 Response by SGT Ben Keen made Nov 12 at 2018 12:47 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120530&urlhash=4120530 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Should we not include one of the largest lies in US President History...<br /><br />&quot;I did not have sexual relations with that woman!&quot; SGT Ben Keen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:47:14 -0500 2018-11-12T12:47:14-05:00 Response by PO1 John Johnson made Nov 12 at 2018 12:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120539&urlhash=4120539 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Kinda one-sided here, CPT, in a country full of political BS on all sides. PO1 John Johnson Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:49:48 -0500 2018-11-12T12:49:48-05:00 Response by SGT Philip Klein made Nov 12 at 2018 12:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120543&urlhash=4120543 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What evidence? What (military) intelligence? You should resign your commission. You don’t appear to be qualified. SGT Philip Klein Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:51:10 -0500 2018-11-12T12:51:10-05:00 Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2018 1:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120629&urlhash=4120629 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do not forget WMD includes some things other than nukes. Capt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 12 Nov 2018 13:21:50 -0500 2018-11-12T13:21:50-05:00 Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 12 at 2018 2:25 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120787&urlhash=4120787 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I firmly believe many Muslims despise the US for military and political intrusions in the ME. MAJ Ken Landgren Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:25:32 -0500 2018-11-12T14:25:32-05:00 Response by SrA John Monette made Nov 12 at 2018 3:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4120999&urlhash=4120999 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>why do you not care who wins or loses an election? as Americans, one of our most important right and privileges is voting. Do you not vote? that is the only reason I can see that someone would not care about the results of an election? if you don&#39;t vote, don&#39;t complain SrA John Monette Mon, 12 Nov 2018 15:57:03 -0500 2018-11-12T15:57:03-05:00 Response by CPO Bryan B. made Nov 12 at 2018 4:24 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4121060&urlhash=4121060 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shhhhh.... Your bias is showing CPO Bryan B. Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:24:34 -0500 2018-11-12T16:24:34-05:00 Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2018 5:44 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4121304&urlhash=4121304 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Perhaps it is the Washington elites and not a sitting president that run the country. What evidence have you seen that indicates the current President rigged the election? Perhaps this evidence has been put forth by these same Washington elites? At the end of the day, decisions are only as good as the information they were based on. Take Obama&#39;s classic line; &quot;if you want your doctor, you can keep your doctor.&quot; I don&#39;t think Obama was trying to purposely mislead the American public, I think he had been given bad information. CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:44:57 -0500 2018-11-12T17:44:57-05:00 Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Nov 12 at 2018 6:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4121399&urlhash=4121399 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Your question indicates a significant misunderstanding about the events and how they unfolded. I would do some actual research on these topics before making a post like this. Bush and many other world leaders believed Iraq had WMD&#39;s. The CIA did so did the Brits, French, Germans and Israelis. Sadaam bragged that he had them and don&#39;t forget, he actually used them on Kurds and during the Iraq/Iran war. You are simply incorrect that he had none or that this was a Bush thing.<br /><br />Trump was not president in 2016. Obama was. Obama chastised Trump for saying that election interference was a concern. Go out on you tube, the videos are there. There is zero evidence, after 2 years, that Trump colluded with anyone. Mueller would have table it if he had it or it would have leaked. If there was tampering in the 2016 election, Obama was at the helm of the security apparatus to stop it. He did little. Cpl Jeff N. Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:21:26 -0500 2018-11-12T18:21:26-05:00 Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2018 2:47 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4122338&urlhash=4122338 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am not a crook<br />Whip inflation now<br />Ask Amy<br />Go ahead, make my day<br />Read my lips, no new taxes<br />I did not have sexual relations with that woman<br />Mission accomplished<br />If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor<br />Lock her up COL Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 13 Nov 2018 02:47:10 -0500 2018-11-13T02:47:10-05:00 Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Nov 13 at 2018 9:06 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4122989&urlhash=4122989 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Interesting how you chose two specific Presidents and ignored the &quot;stands&quot; proven to be false which our previous previous President took. For someone who claims he doesn&#39;t care which President wins or loses, you sure don&#39;t show it.<br /><br />The fact is there were WMDs this much was confirmed long before Bush took office, when the UN listed them out for Iraq to not only remove/destroy, but to provide evidence of the destruction. So I ask you, if they could not produce the proof of their destruction/removal, what happened to them?<br /><br />On the current President, what proof are you referring to which confirms President Trump had anything to do with rigging the election? Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:06:41 -0500 2018-11-13T09:06:41-05:00 Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Nov 13 at 2018 12:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4123431&urlhash=4123431 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, I notice that you left out Slick Willie and Bumbling Barry in this process so I decline to offer anything worth while other than this observation. The bias is obvious. 1SG Dennis Hicks Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:05:49 -0500 2018-11-13T12:05:49-05:00 Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2018 12:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4123479&urlhash=4123479 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do you realize the enormity of your statement? Almost every; and presidents, plural; and always. Then you pick two contemporary Republicans for examples. Seems extremely skewed, to me. You’re not old enough for Vietnam or LBJ. You want to talk lies and coverups and all but total manipulation of the facts and figures of that conflict? Then, in your second example, you use the phrase “appears to be.” That is not a phrase which conveys certainty, nor does it even begin to substantiate your accusation against #45. You want liars? What about Clinton or the master of prevarication, Obama? SCPO Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:31:53 -0500 2018-11-13T12:31:53-05:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2018 7:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/why-is-it-that-in-almost-every-instance-presidents-have-taken-a-stand-but-the-truth-has-always-been-the-opposite?n=4124524&urlhash=4124524 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only way I would ever consider redoing the election is if Hillary actually stood trial for her gross negligence of classified material. Other than that, why can’t we just let bygones be bygones? I mean it’s been 2 years for Pete’s sake! SGT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:46:10 -0500 2018-11-13T19:46:10-05:00 2018-11-12T09:53:38-05:00