Why is it that Hillary Clinton conceded the election peacefully, but some of her supporters think that she got cheated out because of the EC?

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:52:40 -0500

It just seems to me that Hillary Clinton knew how the system worked, seeing as she tried to campaign hard in "toss up" states at the end of the election, but lost most of them. To me, I think it is fair, however I do see problems with the Electoral College. Now why is it that many Hillary Clinton supporters are so angry at the system even though their candidate understands and accepts the system?

Response by SSG Shavonde Chase made Nov 12 at 2016 1:54 PM

SSG Shavonde Chase — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:54:56 -0500

I'm not experienced enough to make a comment. What are your thoughts?

Response by SPC(P) Patrick Westbrook made Nov 12 at 2016 1:58 PM

SPC(P) Patrick Westbrook — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:58:51 -0500

My opinion on this, trump supporters have been all labeled the same brand. You're for him you must be x too. The media did this, and the dems are party to it as well with the Wikileaks emails and what they have shown. Albeit we don't know if true or not, but Hilary got cited one and she went on to say if you read further down this. Which to me gives me reason they are all real and happened since she all but said yes I said that.

Another reason is the majority of the dem base probably wanted Bernie but couldn't get him because of the cheating that happened, so they have been lied to by both candidates per say by not having their preferred candidate up.

Even Obama who I do not really care for, has accepted trump to be the presidential elect. He hasn't done anything to try to disrupt that, but talk to trump and give advice which I admire, after everything that's been said he's doing his job of passing info on to the next leader.

TLDR people are stupid and believe anything they're told. They will use any excuse to loot/pillage/destroy.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Nov 12 at 2016 1:59 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:59:44 -0500

The Clinton supporters are mad because they didn't get what they wanted and they do not understand how the system actually works. We don't do a really good job of teaching our kids about our system, civics, the proper role of government etc.

HRC does understand the system and she knows she lost what appears to be a fair election. Her supporters (or Trump detractors) want to bemoan and complain about a free and fair election.

The ballot box is the ultimate form of protest. It is your chance to deliver your message to the powerful. We did that. Trump won the election, they simply do not want to accept it. Cries about the electoral college are empty words used to justify uncivil behavior in our streets.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 2:00 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:00:12 -0500

This video explains it better than I!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU
Hat tip - CPT Jack Durish

Do You Understand the Electoral College?

Do you understand what the Electoral College is? Or how it works? Or why America uses it to elect its presidents instead of just using a straight popular vot...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 2:02 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:02:35 -0500

Because some of them don't understand the difference between representative and direct government. If schools taught more civics and less about the politics of identity, people would understand and not flip out as they learn suddenly what a republic is.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 2:05 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:05:32 -0500

Doing away with the EC and moving into a pure democracy would be detrimental to freedom. At any time during a pure democracy the mob can take away your property and/or your freedom, on emotional whim alone, or the heat of the moment. Stir up a crowd in a pure democracy and you will get mobocracy. We would fall as fast and as hard as Rome.

Response by Maj John Bell made Nov 12 at 2016 2:31 PM

Maj John Bell — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 14:31:04 -0500

I don't hear them claiming that they got cheated. I hear them wanting to overthrow the results because they don't like the way things turned out. Maybe I'm wrong.

Response by Capt Michael Greene made Nov 12 at 2016 3:04 PM

Capt Michael Greene — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:04:53 -0500

The rioters and protesters are afraid that Trump is an existential threat to America and the world. I find it amazing that anyone could vote for "grab 'em by the pussy" and "Yes, nukes. I love nukes!"

Response by PO3 Ricky Foster made Nov 12 at 2016 3:13 PM

PO3 Ricky Foster — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:13:40 -0500

I think the media and the polls played a big part. They all but called the election for HRC prior to the election. They called for a landslide win for HRC, so this is what they was all expecting. Then the truth hit and Trump won. They now have to accept a new reality that there "everyone gets a trophy" life has not prepared them for. Maybe a few good spankings for temper tantrums as a children would have changed these stupid acts of crying.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2016 3:38 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:38:22 -0500

Well, I guess it would show that her supporters have not followed her excellent example.

Perhaps it shows that she really was not the leader they thought because they themselves can't follw her.

Response by SrA Weston Sperbeck made Nov 12 at 2016 3:47 PM

SrA Weston Sperbeck — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:47:55 -0500

I think that the liberal supporters -- in this instance -- are having trouble understanding/accepting that the electoral votes represent the popular vote of their assigned region, not the popular vote if the country. Trump won more states/regions but lost popular vote so I think that the election was a good one because the the system is set up so the highly populated cities don't govern the entire country. (Please ignore the sarcastic "your welcome" portion of the picture, over all I think it's sound)

Response by SFC George Smith made Nov 12 at 2016 4:16 PM

SFC George Smith — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 16:16:21 -0500

did she know more than she was admitting...

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Nov 12 at 2016 4:33 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 16:33:07 -0500

The Hillary supporters must have been educated in the public school system that doesn't teach real US civics or history any more. They have been trained to be good little victimized socialists. They believed their candidate, despite her flaws, was entitled to the Presidency because of who she is not what she would do. Just like they believe they are entitled to an education and medical care without paying and food without working. The young protesters are either hired or dedicated anarchists--Black Lives Matter, occupy Wall Street crowd regenerated for this purpose.

Response by CPT Alexander Grant made Nov 12 at 2016 6:59 PM

CPT Alexander Grant — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 18:59:23 -0500

everyone is desperate for someone to blame when they fail. Hillary supporters made a mistake with their candidate, and blaming the system *afterwards* is useless.
if people really want to do something about the EC, they need to be more active during the years in between.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Nov 12 at 2016 7:01 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 19:01:36 -0500

That's a helluva good question. I suspect that someone drugged her as she lost it after learning Trump had won and put her to bed (which is why she didn't reappear to speak to her supporters). Then, when she awoke the next morning still suffering a drug hangover, she simply gave up. (I'm obviously just guessing)

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Nov 12 at 2016 10:28 PM

SPC Kevin Ford — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:28:34 -0500

They are angry, sucks to loose, they'll get over it.

Response by SFC James Asbill made Nov 13 at 2016 6:40 PM

SFC James Asbill — Sun, 13 Nov 2016 18:40:46 -0500

Because of the democratic controlled education unions and system that are doing all they can to dumb down the masses in order for socialism to take control..