Why is it ok for them to put animals with feelings to sleep, but not people who are sick from toxins?

2015-04-06T01:09:40-04:00

I often have wondered how they can put animals to sleep when animals have feelings and are smart. Why can't they put people to sleep peacefully in the same way especially if they are on their last days anyway. I understand that cures have been found for things. But this Fort McClellan thing they are not even trying to help in anyway and acting like it did not happen but it did.I prayed on the day I can only lay in bed and moan from the pain and can no longer move and nothing helps the pain that they will change that law so I can be peacefully put to sleep like the animals. It would bring down bills families can not afford and allow the patient to go peacefully and painlessly. I watched my mother die a slow and painful death from liver and lung cancer laying for 3 weeks in that bed suffering. They put the doctor in prison that was trying to help dying patients who wanted it. They tell me at the VA there is no cure for the Ft Mac people and we are dying from it. I would not want to be put to sleep until I just can't go on anymore and I have tried fighting this long and will continue too but why can't I be put to sleep if I choose it when the time comes? Why do they have to make us lay and suffer in more pain in the end haven't we lived enough of it already? I do all I can but the bones are getting worse. When it comes to trying to see the doctors it seems I am not worth the time so they do what is needed to just keep me barely happy and for my meds. But to truely help I am in need of a foot brace. Waiting till August for it by then my foot may be in pieces I can barely walk some days. My bones feel like they are falling apart inside my skin and I fall down. I no a few others of you are like that too. I pray for you always I promised God in 1986 that I would not take my own life or ever try again and have stuck to it but I did not promise not to ask Him to do it. Is it natural for all in the end to pray that God gets it done? Either by him or a doctor with a shot for sleep. Then I can do it right at home. What are you thoughts on this?

http://www.chicagonow.com/uncommon-sense/2013/08/toxic-vets-ft-mcclellan-08072013/

Toxic Vets - The Poisonous Legacy of Ft. McClellan

Ft. McClellan Alabama no longer exists as an Army base, at least not officially. In 1999, the Environmental Protection Agency shut down the base, labeling it a hazardous site. The area is so toxic that it is illegal to sink a well in the surrounding communities. Even though the base no longer houses military personnel,... Read more »

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2015 4:18 AM

2015-04-06T04:18:46-04:00

I understand the effects you have from chemical exposure . I too have been down that road . It is not something that I would wish on any one no matter how much I loath them .
Working on and around equipment of all kinds we were exposed to solvents that were banded for use in the 50's and 60's but being it was the Army it was ok . Carbon tetrachloride and freon 113 and other isocyanates used as solvents . All have exposure warnings that include cancer and death . This was not only type of exposure we had it was in the form of experimental drugs and vaccines . Just as we had before going to Desert Storm . I had friends who were sick as I was who had the same vaccines , on the same day I that received them, that did not go to Desert Storm . They (IE The Military ) are still in denial fighting this over 20 years later . Don't give up keep up the good fight . We keep you in are prayers too !

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Apr 6 at 2015 12:32 PM

2015-04-06T12:32:34-04:00

Humans are sentient beings, other animals, while smart, are not. That is one issue.

The next, as PO2 William Allen Crowder points out is that it's very easy to abuse this. Consider the sentiments against abortion and the death penalty. (I find it ironic btw, that one side supports abortion and fights the death penalty, the other side the opposite - it's still taking a human life)..

There have been cases of people who were thought to be dead who came back.

In a case like yours, if you lived in Oregon, and were deemed to be immediately terminally ill (generally within about 6 months), the compassionate death (what ever it's called) law would allow a doctor to prescribe you a large enough dose of medicine to end your life.

As a religious person, though, you need to consider what your faith teaches about suicide. Most faiths don't look kindly on it; although Judaism recognizes that suicide is usually a sign of mental illness; if one is mentally ill and commit suicide, it's considered a disease, not a sin...

There is no way any court will ever allow anyone to actively kill you the way we put animals to sleep, however. That would be murder, no matter the desire to die.

I know you are suffering horribly, and I wish there were a way to ease your pain, but please don't go to this resort...

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2015 11:07 AM

2015-04-07T11:07:26-04:00

I do not believe it's wrong to ever help someone ease their suffering no matter the circumstances. I pray you will find a way to ease your suffering Sister. Thank you for sharing this.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Apr 7 at 2015 11:26 AM

2015-04-07T11:26:42-04:00

It's a Catch-22.

You have to be a rational person to make that decision, however making that decision makes you appear irrational, which disallows you to make the decision.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Apr 9 at 2015 8:32 AM

2015-04-09T08:32:07-04:00

Excellent article with unfathomable implications. Another issue that ribs with this is the Camp Lejune contaminated water issue that is a presumed cause for a number of illnesses.