Why don't we thank our men and women in harm's way on our streets? Why are our police treated so direspectfully?

2017-02-09T20:13:08-05:00

They are called names, shot and spend their shifts on guard. Why are they not supported more in their efforts to keep us safe in the homeland?

Response by LTJG Richard Bruce made Feb 9 at 2017 8:15 PM

2017-02-09T20:15:21-05:00

Not in my neighborhood. We welcome St Petersburg Police.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 8:17 PM

2017-02-09T20:17:07-05:00

Ma'am as a police officer in Dallas myself I must admit that this is the most frustrating thing that we deal with. I can take the fights and violence and all the horrible things that we see, but after that is all done to then have normal people berate and scream at me like I did something wrong ... it is completely backwards.

Response by SFC George Smith made Feb 9 at 2017 8:22 PM

2017-02-09T20:22:26-05:00

Thanks to all the Troops in Harms way and the all the first responders...
the mistreatment of Both comes from the propaganda and the Brainwashing of the last 2 generations

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 9 at 2017 8:29 PM

2017-02-09T20:29:04-05:00

Because, for the last the 8 years, our President and his administration never support law enforcement. Rather, they chose to support everyone but the police. Col Rebecca Lorraine. All President Obama had to do, was get on TV tell America, attacks on Police were not acceptable, and would not be tolerated. But, instead he chose to take the side of everyone but our police. In so doing he exacerbated the attitude of distrust, disdain, and hate towards the only thing that keeps us from anarchy... The Thin Blue Line.

Response by Col Rebecca Lorraine made Feb 9 at 2017 8:49 PM

2017-02-09T20:49:56-05:00

Can I correct my question to disrespectfully? Bad eyes and fat fingers. Hate my phone.

Response by MAJ Bryan Zeski made Feb 9 at 2017 8:50 PM

2017-02-09T20:50:40-05:00

I think it's hard for people to know HOW to thank the police without being seen as a threat themselves. Police are on guard - and rightfully so - but that guard makes it difficult to approach them to thank them or express appreciation. I experienced it myself once when I went to approach an Officer while he was in his car and as soon as he say me coming his way, he got out and told me to turn around and go somewhere else. There was no argument or explanation on my part, I just did my part and turned around and walked away. Since then, I won't approach a cop for anything unless we're already engaged in a mutual event of some sort.

Response by SSG Jeremy Sharp made Feb 9 at 2017 9:01 PM

2017-02-09T21:01:35-05:00

I have 38 years behind the badge both military and civilian and what I find daily is that many people believe what they see and hear in the media, which is of course all sensationalized and often broadcast with innuendo, when most of the facts are still unknown. The many people that I have directly dealt with over my career are usually respectful. I feel that the indifference and downright disdain of the last administration toward law enforcement led to a lot of the bad feelings that many people have toward police. For instance, the President made comments, as did representatives of the Justice Department which were suppositions concerning the incident in Ferguson, MO. They were wrong, they were false and refuted by video and true eye witness testimony. Neither the President nor the Justice Department officials corrected their suppositions, apologized for their detrimental statements toward law enforcement and they were absolutely responsible for the acrimonious erosion of police and community relations that occurred in our nation and led to multiple police shootings. The deaths of all the police officers killed in 2016 are part of the Obama legacy for our country and that is indeed sad.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 9:16 PM

2017-02-09T21:16:04-05:00

Col Rebecca Lorraine Some of us do thank police officers, but we have some community leaders that want to keep the pot boiling. I was raised to respect the police, but that does not seem the case anymore.

Response by SSgt Clare May made Feb 9 at 2017 9:30 PM

2017-02-09T21:30:07-05:00

Oh my... Times have changed... Old school blended with new school when I was a rookie. Simple answers are no longer the norm Col Rebecca Lorraine . I could go on, but explanation sometimes defines logic. Too many factors... altered police and it's officer survival training.

If your a patrol cop, and you stop someone you don't know, if your not apprehensive about that stop, or aware that you can be shot is a millisecond...your in the wrong business. Peace officers who display the kind of attitude you responded to... when your husband was stopped, probably have been scared shitless by the training they have gotten, and should reconsider a new line of work. Some kids are cops because there was nothing else to work for. I'll be the first one to state, some kids should never be a cop....period. They get killed, or worse someone else dies because of them.

A simple answer is...to your question... Costs. Period. Would you agree with a 1,000-10,000 percent increase in taxes to cover more cops and better wages on the streets? We are told to grow thicker skin... Do not get angry or get out of control, but maintain calm in the face of the worst... but when the day is done...

PSTD ain't got shit on most of us. In a military war, pardon my response but... its a different type of killing field... in a small town, you shoot the maggot who just raped the 12 year old becasue he drew a toy pistol on you...You may have just shot the Mayors son, the elected councilwoman step son, the nephew of a solid registered voter, or a friends kid you went to high school with... and then the liberal left controlled media will fry your ass in front of the masses and you'll never get the opportunity to respond.

Sometimes its the idiot who should have never passed the psych exam, nor ever been a cop who uses the badge and its authority to cause harm...those bastards need never be permitted to walk ever again... Sometimes, its the maggot you put in prison for murder 2, with a 15-20 year term and they are out walking dealing coke again after only serving 9...because of good time. Those maggots have kids, other family members too... and they vote... or they know 20 people who know 200 people who vote...and your the ass that put poor baby in a cell for 9 years... the same voters who would approve better wages and benefits for cops.

The previous resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., didn't help police work or race relations... He pretty much screwed up the perspective of a peace officer and used race issues himself as the so called root cause of Cop v black killings...and left out black on black crime as the real issue that needed attention.

You know what really sucks Col.? I've been disabled now for almost 2 years...and I have issues... Thank God that at least I paid attention during stress management and PTSD trainings...

I say mandatory retirement at 15 years for all street cops... with full retirements....not 60%...not 80%...full with 100% medical coverage....for life. Most of us don't live to see age 54, we are gone 2-3 years after retiring too... I am beating the odds right now... 38 years...and 56.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 10:20 PM

2017-02-09T22:20:44-05:00

I work private security when I'm not doing Drills, and I regularly work with LEO's. So much so I've gotten to learn names, and to find out quite a few are Veterans or are currently serving in the National Guard or Reserves.

I've come to find out that many of the local vagrants and criminal elements find me worse than the Police, because I snitch on them to the Police but I'm worse because as I work security I'm far better at snitching. One phrase I recall was something to the effect of, "How you gonna do me like dat security! You be snitchin too much! or "You ain't a Cop you can't be snitchin like dat!". There's more but it goes into a lot of profanity.

I think we went through a generation or so that wasn't really taught respect for the law. I think part of it is not teaching it in school. My mother recalls taking something similar to Administration of Justice which is a College course in High School, I took no such course in school. Maybe we are just not teaching people respect as best we could as a Nation.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 10:20 PM

2017-02-09T22:20:47-05:00

I respect police officers. I have former Soldiers and family members currently out here on the beat.
When it comes to blacks and police there is not such good history between them. There isnt trust to police officers in the black communities and also think that it is vice versa.
Its just like any other job i guess. You can run into 100 great officers, but that 1 bad one who does his own thing and doesnt follow their own rules and respect citizens are the ones that you remember the most.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 11:23 PM

2017-02-09T23:23:12-05:00

Ask the democrat leadership. They've declared war on the men and women in blue. They (democrats) have created a culture of disrespect with their constituents toward LEOs.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2017 11:39 PM

2017-02-09T23:39:22-05:00

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Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Feb 10 at 2017 3:26 AM

2017-02-10T03:26:19-05:00

Because for decades the liberals have excused criminals and blamed society or environment or inanimate objects for crime, and have blamed police racism for the high crime rates in the inner cities. Plus, we've had eight years of hard-left radicals in the White House and the Atty. General's office that blame the police for every conflict between the criminals and the police.

These are just liberal/progressive chickens coming home to roost.

Response by LCpl Cody Collins made Feb 10 at 2017 7:04 AM

2017-02-10T07:04:17-05:00

Thanks to the last Presidential administration. The Officer Friendly Complex I was taught as a kid, has been replaced with all cops kill black people. So sad I'm black and 54 years old and I have never been shot by any cop. A great majority of people that end up getting shot by cops usually deserve it. I'm just saying

Response by 1SG Al Brown made Feb 10 at 2017 8:31 AM

2017-02-10T08:31:10-05:00

Familiarity breeds contempt. Not unlike Soldiers, Police are not allowed to respond to verbal abuse publicly as individuals, so they are easy targets to scorn by those who value tyranny, upheaval and crime. The farther away Soldiers fight their wars, the more beloved they become. Soldiers actions are nearly mythical to the general public. Police don't have that option.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 10 at 2017 8:35 AM

2017-02-10T08:35:41-05:00

1st: The Military does not interact with the US population at the worst of times...when they have been caught doing something they should not be doing, or when something has gone horrible wrong. nobody wants to thank a cop when they have been caught speeding, DUI, steeling, having murdered someone. No one really is feeing happy to see a cop when said officer is there to tell them their son has been killed, mother in a DUI cause vehicle accident, their baby is dead due to the sitter shaking them to death...
2nd: The last administration had at the least, indifference, or more as I believe, an actual axe to grind reference law enforcement. That top down attack lent support and approval for others in power and leadership to non support or attack police...leading the general populace to do the same.
3rd: You paint to broad a stroke...."Why don't we "

We do, some , perhaps even most don't..but We do.. Yesterday as I was leaving my range, I noticed three patrol cars and a group of officers moving in formation with long guns back toward a distant parked cruiser..I rode over and noticed they had one in cuffs so backed off. Two officers eventually came back over to a patrol car away from the one that had the person in custody.. They told me what was up, I thanked them, and offered my support as needed.Now and in the future...
We have significant problem with dumping and folks shooting on a small undeveloped piece of property near the local regional airport and my motorcycle training range. The city and local law has said ENOUGH... they support us, we support them...

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Feb 10 at 2017 9:16 AM

2017-02-10T09:16:27-05:00

I feel there is disrespect for several reasons:
1.) I believe they are absolutely our peers. We train to take the fight to the enemy outside our borders to keep the bad guys from coming here. They train and take the fight to the internal enemies (lawbreakers) daily. War and military actions are glamorized in movies and tv and police are demonized in the media. Therefore, there is no respect for them.
2.) I believe that there are bad apples everywhere in every profession. In the high visibility world of police work, they simply can’t afford that. Let me give you and example. My wife was bringing my daughter to see me a lunch one day years ago. She came in to my office in tears. When I asked her what happened she said she came to the yellow light on the street where we lived and proceeded through the intersection. It turned red as she got under it. A cop pulled her over and when he came to the window he proceeded to yell at her even so much as to call her a bad parent for putting her child in that situation. It scared her and mostly my 11 year old daughter. We went to the police station and after talking with the shift supervisor they reviewed the dash cam tapes and they agreed he was wrong and over the top for the way he approached her and the things he said. It was a teachable moment for my daughter that everyone makes mistakes. Even sometimes there aren’t bad actions it is just that people know when to turn the camera on to record and when to turn it off so it only shows the bad stuff taken out of context. Then it is on social media instantly. They don’t show the knife or the punch that was slung at the cop, they only show the cop throwing the person to the ground. Therefore in our instant gratification world we live in Americans make rash judgment and throw the baby out with the bath water without knowing the whole story.
3.) Our nation’s leadership has immediately backed the victims instead of the police. When the top leadership doesn't even have respect for the law, how can those under have respect for the law...I don’t mean they need to automatically back the cops or the victim but instead of knee jerk reactions, they need to wait, get the whole story first, then go with what’s right. If it is the cop, then hold them accountable…if it was legal and justified, then go prosecute the criminal to the fullest extent of the law and explain what happened…after court of course. That is another issue with information…the legal side of it can’t discuss while the opposite side can tell their story all daylong and spin however they want to…after a while it becomes truth.
I believe our law enforcement gets a really bad rap because of the negative publicity. There are a lot of cops out there doing great things, getting involved and invested in their communities, making positive change but good news doesn’t sell and until our media starts telling the good news stories…I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2017 10:09 AM

2017-02-10T10:09:53-05:00

There was one day down in Salt Lake City, my Reserve unit was taking a field trip to a museum, which just happened to be around the corner from Police Headquarters. I had went back to my vehicle to retrieve something, and a cop was in his squad car going into the garage of police hq. He actually stopped and thanked me for my service. I, in turn, thanked him for his. He, in turn, said I have a dangerous job so that's why he was thanking me. I responded with "I only risk being shot at during war. You risk getting shot at every day. Your job is more dangerous than mine. So thank you for your service." He smiled, gave me a thumbs up and went about his day.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Feb 10 at 2017 11:09 AM

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I do and so do many others. The roots of any show of disrespect has its roots in lies of a corrupt media, in my opinion, controlled by Progressive Left. The Progressive Left has created these false stories for years while ignoring and hiding the true sources of violence and oppression. Beyond sad, I feel they are criminal in their actions.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2017 1:02 PM

2017-02-10T13:02:23-05:00

I think it is very simplistic. Most people when they are having interaction with police it isn't so positive. They are getting a speeding ticket or broke the law in some way shape or form. It isn't the police fault that they are there to enforce the law its just the happens to be the circumstance most people come in contact with the police. It is very hard to thank a police officer for giving you a ticket or arresting you.
Now as far a police being treated disrespectfully that is probably more blown up by the media than anything else. Or its my lack of experience of this happening in my rural community.
One thing will always remain true no matter the color of peoples skin someone will always have a story of the time a cop screwed them.

Response by 1LT William Clardy made Feb 10 at 2017 6:56 PM

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The biggest reason is that, like every other group, they include some bad apples who have been sheltered by their fellow officers' willingness to forgive fellow officers missteps more readily than they would citizens committing similar transgressions. Add in the shift in police culture toward distancing themselves from the rest of the citizenry and emphasizing police lives ahead of all others, and you have a recipe for creating conflict and mistrust.

Response by SSG Vance Conyers made Feb 12 at 2017 2:40 PM

2017-02-12T14:40:33-05:00

Being objective as possible, I think it is usage. It is easier to recognize a deployment than everyday duty. In addition, coverage of military operations is nowhere near the amount of coverage police receive. (Good or bad)

Response by SP5 Robert Ruck made Feb 12 at 2017 2:41 PM

2017-02-12T14:41:16-05:00

I think ( and hope ) the vast majority of Americans do respect and admire law enforcement officers. That group that doesn't seem to be people who refuse to stand accountable for their own actions and or relish in the self perception of infinite victimization. Others are just plain criminals and anarchists.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2017 2:54 PM

2017-02-12T14:54:48-05:00

I stopped by a table when about 5 officers were having lunch. I said I just wanted to say Thank You for what you do. I know it is not an easy job.

They were very receptive to the thanks (after their initial reaction to someone coming to the table to interrupt their lunch) They appreciated it.