Why does one party hate Voter ID so much?

PO2 Mark Saffell — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:17:30 -0500

I guess I have a hard time understanding why it seems Liberals hate voter ID so much when you must have an ID to board a plane, cash a check, use food stamps, enter certain buildings or events. You cant drive, buy Cigarettes or beer or even use a credit card in most place. So why the push back on Voter ID if its not for something illegal ?

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 7 at 2016 10:26 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:26:19 -0500

You really need to start another war? Well, I'm not going to contribute because I simply don't know. It defies all logic to oppose voter ID. Why? We didn't need it before, did we? True BUT we weren't overrun before with so many illegal aliens and others who have every intention of disrupting elections for nefarious purposes.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Mar 7 at 2016 10:27 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:27:09 -0500

C'mon, we all know it is to suppress the minorities that are unable to get the necessary documents. OR, it is the other side that is trying to open the gates for all the illegals to vote unimpeded, that nrmally vote Democrat. Your choice, depending on which side of the argument you are on.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Mar 7 at 2016 10:43 AM

MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:43:33 -0500

It's been my experience that those who scream the loudest against a new law/rule/policy/etc are usually the worst offenders of said new law/rule/policy/etc.

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 7 at 2016 11:10 AM

Maj John Bell — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:10:49 -0500

In the past (1960's and earlier), many strategies were used to actually suppress minority blocks voting rights by both parties, particularly southern Democrats and New England Democrats. These blocks are hyper-sensitive to anything that might carry the "stink" of voter suppression, whether the stink is real or not. The Democrats know that. Democrats have seized it as a false flag to help secure the votes of those minority blocks.

Democrats successfully re-branded republicans as the anti-civil rights party. Don't get me wrong. The Republicans were not entirely blameless in that rebranding. LBJ could not have overcome the resistance to the CIVIL RIGHTS act in his own party. The Republicans were the party that eventually pushed the ball over the line. They broke the Democrat filibuster, and over 80% in both houses voted for the civil rights act. Low to mid 60% for the Democrats.

Many issue by issue polls show that African-Americans tend to identify more with the Republican Party on social issues that are considered the territory of conservatives. But the "anti-civil rights stink" makes many minorities party voters instead of issue voters. If the Republicans want to capture the vote of minorities, they need to take the wind out of these false flag arguments by going even further to make sure every voter is registered.

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Mar 7 at 2016 11:32 AM

PO2 Mark Saffell — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:32:26 -0500

Anyone notice still no liberals defending the lack of voter ID posting here yet? I figure when they do I will get called a bunch of bad manes for daring to suggest that they are against ID's because it gives them an open door to fraud the election laws.

Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2016 11:40 AM

LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:40:49 -0500

The responses to this question are completely insane, especially since there has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud in elections.

Obviously there is nothing intrinsically wrong with gradually ratcheting up the degree to which we apply accountability to the election process, but that's not what voter ID opponents are arguing and to accuse them otherwise is being blatantly dishonest. You want proof that this avalanche of Voter ID laws that have been passed mainly to suppress the vote of minorities and the poor? Name ONE state with stringent Voter ID laws that ALSO allocated significant funds for compliance assistance? This is, by the way, a common practice when new regulations are applied to businesses - money is appropriated to set up offices, call-lines, visiting experts and generous grace periods all with the explicit aim of helping them comply with the new regulations. So where are they in relation to these new Voter ID laws? Oh, that's right, there were NONE. NOT ONE DOLLAR was set aside for compliance assistance in ANY of the "red states" that have passed new voter ID laws.

That is why all these "Voter ID makes sense!" and "Well then I guess libtards WANT voter fraud, don't they?!" arguments are full of it. That is how you know this push is motivated by racism and a desire to return the United States to the era of Jim Crow.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2016 12:30 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:30:40 -0500

The US lags behind the rest of the world in this regard; and indeed we would call foreign elections fraudulent without an ID being used.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421292/world-requires-voter-id-george-soros-and-hillary-clinton-are-determined-us-wont-john

The World Requires Voter ID, but George Soros and Hillary Clinton Are Determined the U.S. Won’t

Almost all industrial democracies require voter ID to participate in elections.

Response by LTC Thomas Tennant made Mar 7 at 2016 3:24 PM

LTC Thomas Tennant — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:24:43 -0500

Short Answer - Votes & Rigged Elections. Most Democrats hate Voter ID because in modern voting election cycles they have no compulsion against voter fraud. In fact they have celebrated people who have "voted early and often"... a pet phrase in Boston and Chicago politics. With the influx of illegal aliens (mostly flooding over our southern border) they hope to generate a whole host of "undocumented" Democrats.

Response by Capt Chris McVeigh made Mar 8 at 2016 2:55 AM

Capt Chris McVeigh — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 02:55:43 -0500

Even with the things you listed, not everyone has a photo ID. Often not because they aren't eligible, but because it is inconvenient to get one. In some areas, the offices that create the IDs are only open very infrequently, are distant from the person's home, they don't have the time to take off work etc. There's a lot of reasons.

Balancing that against the issue at hand: voter fraud, specifically, people voting as a different person. The amount this happens is staggeringly small compared to how often people bring it up. Any other type of voter fraud would still occur, this would strictly limit the person who goes in and votes a second time as a different person.

In short, the infringement on the people's constitutional right to vote isn't worth it.

Response by SFC Frank Hartley made Mar 8 at 2016 10:28 AM

SFC Frank Hartley — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:28:55 -0500

Because it's harder for liberals to cheat. Using an ID promotes the idea of "one person, one vote" and it verifies who the person may be.