Why do the anti-gun groups continuously call an incident with a gun "gun violence", but with other objects, it's just "violence"?

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:34:47 -0500

You never hear knife attacks called knife violence.
You never hear car rundowns being called vehicle violence.
You never hear baseball bats being called bat violence.
So why do the media and anti-gun group continue to call it "gun violence?"

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jan 12 at 2017 12:37 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:37:08 -0500

Because they're not responding to the situation. They're merely parroting a narrative

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 12:37 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:37:13 -0500

Because "gun violence" sounds scarier and helps all the anti gunners push their agenda. Just like labeling certain guns as "assault weapons".

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 12:38 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:38:38 -0500

it's easier to instill fear and paranoia when you use the term "gun violence."

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 12:43 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:43:13 -0500

Did someone say "Bat Violence?"

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jan 12 at 2017 12:44 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:44:48 -0500

Well you kinda answered your own question. It's coming from anti-gun groups. Have you seen any anti-knife groups or anti-vehicle groups or anti-bat groups? Of course not. Anti-gun groups use this type of language because the goal is to get rid of guns. So by calling it gun violence, it stirs people up with the notion that guns are the problem and if it weren't for guns, things like this would never happen. That's the simplest explanation.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 12:51 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:51:06 -0500

The same reason all weapons are Assault Weapons when they are really Tactical Style weapons.....It is illegal for regular citizens to own assault weapons already (50 cal. machine gun, cannons ect)

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Jan 12 at 2017 12:59 PM

MSG Brad Sand — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:59:53 -0500

Kind of put the answer right in the question?

Response by SFC George Smith made Jan 12 at 2017 1:00 PM

SFC George Smith — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:00:33 -0500

gun Violence accentuates the difference and brings the need to supposed Gun control it's Their agenda... and the more they talk about it and vilify it the more morons will sign on to their cause... they are vilifying the weapon as it is the cause of the problem... and if they eliminate the Guns... the gun Violence will just go away...
and the easter Bunny will bring the Publishers Clearing House Check to their House next...

Response by MSgt George Cater made Jan 12 at 2017 1:30 PM

MSgt George Cater — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:30:00 -0500

You don't think it has a bit to do with their anti-freedom and we know better than you do agenda, do you?

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Jan 12 at 2017 1:46 PM

1LT Aaron Barr — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:46:48 -0500

Because gun control isn't about safety or preventing crime, its about disarming people.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Jan 12 at 2017 2:17 PM

Col Joseph Lenertz — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:17:57 -0500

Knife attacks are ninja-silent. You never hear them because you never hear them.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Jan 12 at 2017 3:06 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:06:14 -0500

Because the wording feeds "the Narrative".

Response by CSM William DeWolf made Jan 12 at 2017 3:20 PM

CSM William DeWolf — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:20:31 -0500

Gun violence attracts the liberal's attention and the amendment!

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made Jan 12 at 2017 3:28 PM

SSgt Christopher Brose — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:28:42 -0500

What cracks me up about the term "gun violence" is the underlying assumption that it's always bad. That assumption is false. Gun violence is often a very good thing.

Response by CSM Chuck Stafford made Jan 12 at 2017 3:43 PM

CSM Chuck Stafford — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:43:33 -0500

...because guns are scary to some and if you focus on them, you shift the focus from the weak societal/cultural mores and attitudes towards behavior, responsibility, and accountability

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 3:49 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:49:45 -0500

By naming something they think they can control it, they imagine that they can do something about it. Crime in general and gun violence in particular, is a symptom of societal problems that as a general rule can not be addressed with more gun laws.

Response by SGT William Howell made Jan 12 at 2017 3:54 PM

SGT William Howell — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:54:24 -0500

For the same reason that they don't demand that cars be outlawed because more people are killed by cars than all other weapons combined. They hate guns.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Jan 12 at 2017 4:52 PM

GySgt Kenneth Pepper — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:52:54 -0500

If people get hurt or die in an airplane crash is it "plane violence" or just "plain "violence""? (pun?...it's been a long day already, I'm going home).
***No people were actually harmed by an airplane in the making of this entry.

Response by Cpl Joshua Caldwell made Jan 12 at 2017 5:11 PM

Cpl Joshua Caldwell — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:11:16 -0500

Because the entire crux of their illogical argument is that if we remove guns from the hands of people who obey the laws, that somehow killings will stop. The fact that humans can and do kill with many objects seems to baffle them, along with the reality that criminals dont obey laws, and that disarming the victims only helps the predators. They are not a very bright group of people but they make up for it with arrogance and enthusiasm.

Response by PO3 John Wagner made Jan 12 at 2017 5:24 PM

PO3 John Wagner — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:24:34 -0500

Because it's trendy and most of them would soil themselves if they ever took a loaded firearm in hand let alone discharged one...a secondary discharge from their anus and urinary tract would be the likely result.
There is The off chance that some of these people who never made a considered political decision in their lives might say "this is fun as hell!"
Any converts moving away from diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain would potentially create a situation inviting a few more of their kind to at least examine the brown matter inside the cerebral membrane perhaps allowing for a little more light to enter.

Response by SSG Jeremy Sharp made Jan 12 at 2017 5:35 PM

SSG Jeremy Sharp — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:35:05 -0500

Because they are latching on to any incident that can enhance their position on their hidden agenda to snatch guns. They also report the lawful use of a firearm for self defense as gun violence.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 5:38 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:38:47 -0500

Shooting an AR15, a ptsd creating event

Response by GySgt Melissa Gravila made Jan 12 at 2017 7:35 PM

GySgt Melissa Gravila — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:35:36 -0500

The most hypocritical part is the people yelling the most are doing so from behind a wall of armed guards (and they aren't armed with their sharp wits). I've said it before, and here I go again, without the 2nd amendment, the rest are unprotected. I refuse to have someone else dictate and have the ultimate control of how I live and protect my life, and the lives of my family. The anti-gunners can sit and spin.
Sincerely,
A faithful 111%

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2017 10:31 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 22:31:21 -0500

Personally...

I think it's because they're emotionally unstable or have been conditioned to fear a tool. I have literally disassembled a pistol in front of an anti-gun proponent and explained the parts before her.

She still seemed pretty convinced she was looking at the guts of an evil creature.

I have also tried countless times to explain the concept of "assault" weapons, it many times has gone well over their heads.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2017 7:27 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Jan 2017 07:27:18 -0500

Ask the people on this site that insist on calling a mass shooting islamic terrorism when a muslim does it, but just call it a shooting when an antiabortion christian does it, instead of christian terrorism. I'm sure they can explain it.

Response by Sgt Bob Leonard made Jan 14 at 2017 2:35 AM

Sgt Bob Leonard — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:35:07 -0500

Pew Research has been asking the question and following the results since at least 1993. Their latest survey (asking the question, "What do you think is more important – to protect the right of Americans to own guns, OR to control gun ownership?") was done in Aug 2016.

The results...

52% supported Gun Rights
46% supported Gun Cotrol
http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/26/gun-rights-vs-gun-control/#total

I'm pretty sure that half the Country doesn't live in walled communities with 24/7 armed guard protection. Therefore, we might want to re-design the straw man caricature we have of people who favor some form of gun control. (Beyond a firm grip, clear sight picture, and squeeze, don't jerk.) When you walk down the street, every other person you pass favors some form of gun control. They do NOT live in walled communities and they do NOT have armed guards.

I'm convinced that most of them could be persuaded to change their opinion if they were treated like reasonable human beings and not dismissed out of hand as effete elitists, trying to take our guns away. Arguments like, "pried from my cold, dead hands." are not compelling or persuasive.

Gun Rights vs. Gun Control

A Pew Research Center interactive exploring 20 years of data on public opinion about gun control vs. gun rights.