Who will you call when the enemy brings war on American soil?

2016-02-27T20:03:08-05:00

If your anti gun, pro Democrat, answer me this! We have integrated women into combat arms. The war on guns has begun and the tolerance of the intolerant has happened. The question is, who will you call when the enemy brings war on American soil? This is a serious question. I would like some actual answers. If you don't know, or wish to see the other side's story, share this!!!! I would like to hear! I'll respond as at as I can.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 8:04 PM

2016-02-27T20:04:34-05:00

Bring it. No ROE then to get us killed

Response by SFC Michael Whipple made Feb 27 at 2016 8:10 PM

2016-02-27T20:10:35-05:00

You're*

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Feb 27 at 2016 8:18 PM

2016-02-27T20:18:47-05:00

Step away from the computer and take a deep breath. Your anger serves no good purpose. No "anti-gun Democrat" is going to call on anyone to defend America. When attacked, America will be defended without the need for any call. We the People will rise up bearing arms if and when the federal government fails in its duty and the enemy infiltrates our nation. Always trust in that and be at peace. Fortunately, our government is disbanded every two years and we have the peaceful means of giving ourselves a better one laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect our Safety and Happiness. Now take all that energy and hit the streets. Meet your neighbors and show them your passion. Advocate clearly and reasonably for the kind of leadership we need. Then vote. Take your family and friends to their polling places if you must, and help them participate. Get active. Get involved. Don't just sit around stewing in the cauldron of your anger.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Feb 27 at 2016 9:04 PM

2016-02-27T21:04:35-05:00

When nations fight on their own soil men and women both step up to defend their homes and loved ones. It happens again and again.

Response by MAJ Bryan Zeski made Feb 27 at 2016 9:17 PM

2016-02-27T21:17:58-05:00

SSG Private RallyPoint Member I am liberal and I support rational gun control, so I'll answer your questions.

1. Yes, we have integrated women into combat arms. Not sure what the point is for this comment.
2. "War on guns has begun and the tolerance of the intolerant has happened." - What do you mean by this? Has someone come for your guns? Or are you referring to magazine capacity limits? Or... what? And what intolerant things are being tolerated now? Gay marriage? Again, not sure what the question is.

Ok, ok, so now I got the question. "Who will I call on when the enemy brings war on American soil?" Ghostbusters. Duh. Ok, but seriously, I think we will all call first on the integrated military. And if there is an Army sniper providing overwatch on your street in your neighborhood, I don't think you will care that that it's a female behind the scope. In reality, you will never know. Will you care that the person who pulled the lanyard that rains down fire from the sky on the enemy in your backyard is a female? I doubt it. Steel rain knows no gender. Will you care that the Apache pilot providing close air support to your position is a transgender Warrant? Nope. All you will care about are rounds on target.

I am more than happy to call on ANY military servicemember in a time of trouble to provide suppressive fire, to secure a perimeter or to conduct a night raid against the enemy.

So, I think it's high time we get our collective noses out of the genitals of everyone else and get on with the "support and defend" part of our job.

Wait, and who else will we call on if the enemy is at our door? The police, the firemen, and every man woman and child with a hatchet, hammer or chainsaw. Every one of the 300+ million firearms in the country (and no, no one is taking them away). Everyone stands. Everyone fights. Everyone.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Feb 27 at 2016 9:20 PM

2016-02-27T21:20:23-05:00

What does women have to do with anything, and war on guns? Who is taking away weapons? Tolerance of the intolerable? You'd have to define that being through history there's always been someone who was "good" and someone who was "bad". Who will I call? I'd call a recruiter or roll over and grab Michelle (my AR-15). It was mentioned below the US makes it's own enemies, and historically it's correct. Our meddling in areas to effect a desired outcome has failed more than it's helped. Deploying troops to an area we really had no point in being in (Iraq), won't endear us to many, so what do we do Staff? Do we take a look at all the foreign policies over the last 60 years and do an AAR to figure out the best way forward? Do we put women back into the kitchens and barefoot and pregnant being I reckon to some they're just sammich makers? Do we kick the LGBT out of the military and make it a all volunteer force....ONLY if you're of the correct sexual orientation and religion? I see you tagged VA. VA has been screwed up for well longer than many of us have been on earth. That damn sure isn't an Obama or Bush problem. Only Bush was around for Nam. What are you proposing?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 9:59 PM

2016-02-27T21:59:46-05:00

Women shoot just as well as men, not all Democrats are anti-gun and despite the right-wing fantasy, Joe-Bob and Billy-Ray will never be defending our soil with their arsenals against a communist invasion.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 10:15 PM

2016-02-27T22:15:14-05:00

Women can be integrated as MPs and Civil Affairs but very few won't get yeast infections being on LRPs and still be able to carry mortar rounds added to their TA-50 combat load.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 10:27 PM

2016-02-27T22:27:28-05:00

This says it all as far as I'm concerned.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2016 10:49 PM

2016-02-27T22:49:02-05:00

I like guns, I own guns and believe universal background checks for everyone who buys a gun.... even if I'm the one selling it is a great thing. I'm also far more likely to vote Democrat than Republican. So perhaps I still qualify as an anti-gun Democrat.

You asked "who I will can when the enemy brings war on American soil?"

First, in the extremely unlikely event that war is brought to American soil it will most likely be Americans like those who participated in the Oregon Standoff. I find it extremely unlikely that they will be able to resist police and national guard forces, much less the active duty were we facing a full fledged insurrection.

What's next on the list of extremely remote possibilities? Aliens from another planet? A mass conversion to Islam and then war as a Muslim majority attempts to impose Sharia law? China seizing the American Southwest? Ok, so the even though the odds of something like this happening are about as great as me winning the lottery, people still buy tickets.

There are two extreme ends of the gun control debate... on one end we have people who want no limitations at all and on the other we have people who want them completely outlawed. The vast majority of Americans are going to be somewhere in between those two extremes and would find either extreme unacceptable. If it were up to me, every American would be able to own any type of semiautomatic weapon as long as they didn't have a criminal record, a history of violent mental health outbreaks, or a history of domestic violence (within the past 10 years) and this would be enforced by easy to access to online background checks for all sales.

With 1 on the scale being people who want no limitations on firearms at all, and 10 being people who want guns completely outlawed... I would give myself about a 4, the State of California about a 6 and Arizona about a 4 as well. Nationwide the US is probably about a 5 on the 1 to 10 scale. It could enhance background checks which would help reduce some gun crime and it could get rid of a lot of regulations that don't do any real good. If some gun hating politician wanted to move the US to a 7 on the 1-10 scale, I don't believe he could get the country to accept it. To many Americans (myself included) like their guns.

So my answer is everyone who isn't a felon, who doesn't have a history of domestic violence and who hasn't had a violent episode due to mental health issues in the past 10 years. If they don't have one of their own, they can borrow one of mine.

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Feb 27 at 2016 11:04 PM

2016-02-27T23:04:30-05:00

First off, no one is trying to take anyone's guns away except for those who do not have any business having them. I'm a liberal, but I don't necessarily vote democrat- I vote with my conscience. I believe reasonable gun control means stronger requirements in order to purchase one- i.e., stringent background checks (and boo hoo if you have to wait a couple of extra days. Do you really need that hack Glock in your hands immediately?) and smaller capacity magazines. The second amendment makes no statement regarding caliber size and/or firing rates.

And women in combat? Please! I've served with plenty of women who were more than capable of putting rounds downrange and dragging casualties out of fire. Some better than many 11-bangers I've served beside. Give me a break.

Who would I call when and if an "enemy" strikes here? I think your paranoia is overreaching. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but unfortunately events like terrorism can't always be prevented- the enemy comes and then disappears post-action. A foreign invasion is extraordinarily unlikely, so I won't even go there.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 3:05 AM

2016-02-28T03:05:32-05:00

Well, it sure won't be JP4. Sounds like his phone'll be busy!!!

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Feb 28 at 2016 9:07 AM

2016-02-28T09:07:04-05:00

SSG Private RallyPoint Member Due to the Posse Comitatus Act, it would have to be the NG or LEOs. The only way, by law, the active military would get involved is if we were invaded.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Feb 28 at 2016 10:10 AM

2016-02-28T10:10:45-05:00

I suspect, if we're invaded, the US military, and the American Militia will be more than capable of defeating any such invasion. I also am confident that there will be no need for the servitude/slavery of a draft if such a situation occurs, as every armed American will be empowered to defend their lives, families, friends, and property. Though some here are quick to offer up their sons, and daughters into the slavery of a draft, an invasion of the homeland should not require a return to slavery.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 11:21 AM

2016-02-28T11:21:13-05:00

I don't know who they are going to call, but I do know who will answer the phone.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 28 at 2016 12:35 PM

2016-02-28T12:35:49-05:00

The government should be directing the military and militias for coordination and resources.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 7:21 PM

2016-02-28T19:21:25-05:00

Quite honestly I'm afraid to give my opinion on just about every comment within this thread for fear of my career. What I will say is a large majority of comments within this thread are completely asinine and people need to wake up. Thats as much as I'll go into my opinion. I don't think rally point is the place to voice your opinions on certain areas of politics like you are addressing here. You're on a website that has every single leadership role in each branch of service. Next thing you know, your career is done for an opinion you voiced over the Internet. Have a good day every body.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2016 7:42 PM

2016-02-28T19:42:30-05:00

I know many individuals who're familiar with multiple weapons systems and are as equally familiar in employing them in several varying economies of force. I'll be calling them if I'm not called myself.

Response by SSG Donald Mceuen made Feb 29 at 2016 8:34 AM

2016-02-29T08:34:09-05:00

Most will change and pick up arms to defend there home. Or call me and my kids where ready to defend are land and country my sons and daughter can all handle them self. They were tought at a young age to respect weapons and are country. So here it is it takes all kinds to protect or country.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 1:31 PM

2016-02-29T13:31:28-05:00

I got a few battle buddies on speed dial.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Feb 29 at 2016 3:08 PM

2016-02-29T15:08:02-05:00

I am not calling anyone...but I do hope other will join me because, while I would do my best to take as many of them with me as possible, anyone and everyone can be overwhelmed.

Response by CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2016 7:21 PM

2016-02-29T19:21:39-05:00

As far as guns go i can take them or leave them ( no real stance either way) but om sure if the enemy brings it everybody with sense will be pro gun. All that other stuff is out the window.