Who has the best record for getting Veteran claims approved or increased? DAV, VFW, ect and ect or does it really matter?

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To many organization to choose from.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2016 7:39 AM

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Mine didn't take too long and I didn't utilize any outside organizations.

Response by CPL David Salazar made Mar 19 at 2016 3:55 PM

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From my experience, these type of organizations are nothing more than a middleman that gives you a false sense of security. Nothing tops a personal knowledge. Pretend you are giving training, and become a subject matter expert.

Response by CWO2 John Markiewicz made Mar 19 at 2016 5:31 PM

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I would say the DAV is the organization that specializes in service to veterans. Their mandatory annual training & re-certification of several days is much longer and more detailed as Service Officers than those in all of the other Veterans Service Organizations (VSO) and all claims are sent through their National Service Officers (NSO) in each region (who have an even longer training and certification process of several months & mandatory annual re-certification process) before being sent on to the VA. The DAV NSOs are better trained and more experienced than most of the VA employees who evaluate and rate your claims.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Mar 20 at 2016 12:17 PM

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As a former DAV service officer, I am biased, but I think DAV does it best...

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 21 at 2016 9:05 AM

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I don't think anyone can answer this question honestly. Each organization is rightfully proud of its own record, but has no basis for comparing it with others. And local experience will vary. My VFW post has a team of service officers and other posts nearby have none. Vets in need of help should shop around, ask friends just like shopping for any service
In fact, this would be a good use of RP

Response by CW2 Fred Baker made Mar 22 at 2016 12:38 AM

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Seriously? All organizations have good and bad. Talk to local vets who have gone through the system and they will tell you the best individual to help you. Doing it alone is an option, but I wouldn't advise it. An experienced Service Officer can get your paperwork through in a timely manner and tell you if you need to appeal if the award isn't high enough.

Response by PO2 Robert Hunter made Mar 22 at 2016 6:30 AM

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In New England, from CT, was Allen Gumpenberger. He used to be the DAV Service Officer, and went out on his own. His work is exceptional.

Response by PO2 Juan Martinez made Mar 22 at 2016 7:32 AM

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Out here in the NYC VARO, there was a VSO representative by the name of Nicole Ciccio from the VFW that got me over the hurdle of my unsuccessful initial attempts to get the VA to take my claim seriously (1999.) Since then (and when she went to work for the VA,) the VFW has been an absentee VSO with high turnover, with many bolting to the "other side." This is a problem the VFW (at least here) has not been able to address, and so representation has been spotty, at best. Ironically, my father, who is also a vet, is represented by the DAV, and his results were similar.

I guess what I am saying is that it depends on the time and place where you try to get help; word-of-mouth from other vets who have been through this "wringer" is the best source as to who may get the best results on your individual case.

Response by SCPO Don Baker made Mar 22 at 2016 7:33 AM

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DAV in San Diego got the ball rolling for me with the VA. My transition from uniform to retiree went very smoothly. So much so, I became a life member of the DAV.

Response by SPC Sokhen In made Mar 22 at 2016 7:35 AM

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I usually don't like to post too much in rally-point as I got out of the service as a Jr. Enlisted, but this is one subject matter I have an experience dealing with. Please do not do this alone, for the same reason you don't go to the IRS audit alone, or go to represent yourself in a criminal court. Yes you may come out okay, but statistic says you can lose a limb and still technically get less compensation than someone who got shot in the arm and loses movement. It depends on your injuries and how it prevents you from living a normal life and performing gainful employment. But the most important thing is to be well informed of the process. And as far as choosing your VSO for helping you fill out the claim I would go with the suggestions that some below already said which is it depends on your area. I also hear the best things about the DAV, so I don't think you can really go wrong with them but at least in my area a different VSO was recommended. The best wisdom I can impart you is this...

1. Be prepared, document any and all injuries an ailments in the service. Don't be macho and keep it in. Your are not the VA, you are not a DR (okay so some of you are) let the experts decide whether you should be compensated or not. Don't sell yourself short. Also get a copy of all your medical records, mines was lost in limbo for over 6 months because the VA couldn't find it. But having a copy of my office visits, profiles, specialist referrals really saved me.

2. The minute you get your DD214, go to your nearest VSO office which is usually at the VA center anyways. Your compensation is based on the date you file so even if it takes a year you will get back pay. I think you can even file before you get out, check with your chosen VSO office for specifics.

3. Don't miss any compensation appointment, your 1SGT or SGM is not going to come after you, squad leader isn't going to call you, but if you miss your appointment, there goes your claim.

4. Come to your appointment prepared to explain your case. Dates of injury, how is it military related, what happened, why has this affected your ability to live a normal life and have gainful employment.

5. Take my advice with a grain of salt. Read all the documentation you can find on the web and on the va website about the claims process. This is probably more important than what VSO rep you choose, as just like in the military, experience may vary. Also I know that the DAV or VSOs usually goes to your military base when you are starting to outprocess, ask questions pay attention. If you take my advice and your claim is legitimate you should come out okay, all else fails don't be afraid to acquire the services of a VA-Certified Veterans Disability Lawyer.

Response by MAJ Michael Pauling made Mar 22 at 2016 7:47 AM

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MOAA has a great support network of VSO's I am not knocking the others but if you are in greater DC ARea I would use them

Response by MAJ John Smith made Mar 22 at 2016 7:52 AM

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My experience is it is pretty much up to the individual providing the help. You must realize these people volunteer their time and have other duties i.e.family,job etc..As the previous comment suggested shop around. I found our county vets service office to b excellent.

Response by Sgt Steven Eckert made Mar 22 at 2016 7:54 AM

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Best service in Indiana is the American Legion. They are in same building as Vet Affairs

Response by CPL Kenneth Mcclary made Mar 22 at 2016 8:15 AM

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You just need to talk to them and find out who you are more comfortable with and go with that person. For me the D.A.V was the best.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 8:28 AM

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Interview the different VSOs in your area just like you were hiring someone to work for you - which is exactly what you're doing. Ask them if they are going to help you look over your medical records and help determine what you should be claiming? Will they help you craft the claim elements in the proper language for the VA? Will they help you put it all together, guide you in gathering all the evidence you need to complete a Fully-Developed Claim? Will they follow-through with the VA to ensure your claim sails through the system with minimal or no roadblocks? Will they be there to help you understand any denials and to put together any requests for reconsideration, NODs, or appeals, and ensure they address the VA's issues properly? Will they have someone to support you during the BVA appeal process, including preparing you for your appearance and appearing as your representative? What about the CACV?

If you don't get good answers or have a good feeling about them after asking all these question, say thank you very much, and go find someone who will help. I learned the hard way. I used the DAV here in Baltimore, and they are worthless. Everyone says they are great, as you see in this discussion, but in Baltimore, they aren't. They've turned over the entire office multiple times in the 8 years my claim has been floundering here. No one has ever given me any advice or feedback or help on anything I've done, so I've literally done everything on my own anyway. They've just been a pass-through for me. Don't forget about the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) and Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA); I've heard really good things about both those organizations' VSOs at almost every location. You State/County likely has certified claims officers who will help you, too. Just find someone you're comfortable with and who you believe will help you with the things I asked above, and who will be there for you over the next 2, 3, 4 or more years as your claim works its way through the system!

Response by SGT Barry Third made Mar 22 at 2016 8:41 AM

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I had DAV as a Rep. for 5 years ,, never got it done ,, 6 months with the VFW and i was rated

Response by MAJ Thomas Person made Mar 22 at 2016 8:45 AM

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Absolutely nothing SPC Westgate. They can and will help fill out some of the rectal scrapping paper work. I will admit that some of the paper has been streamlined. Of course nearly a couple thousand of our brothers had to expire first. My first one I had to go to my Representative (Frank Guin ta, a beast) who by the way had an office across the street. He walked across the street and 2 months later I had my rating. Up to that time it was a year. They are well meaning and they can assist as mentioned but they can't speed jack up. As far as the ultimate answer; getting a lawyer from the list of guys who have strangled this great beast known as the VA. In my opinion the problem with the system is those GS 12-15 types protecting their fiefdoms. No matter what you have to be like somebody's Regimental RECON and stay dead in their shorts and getting a eBenefit account helps. Good luck troop

Response by SSG Michael Keohane made Mar 22 at 2016 9:03 AM

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I served 14 years as a New York State Veterans Counselor and was also a registered representative of both the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars. I had the opportunity to observe representatives of most of the other organizations that assisted veterans. Every organization has both outstanding representatives and some not so outstanding representatives. It is like seeking a good doctor or lawyer, you must ask other veterans about the persons that represented them. Good luck in your search.

Response by CPO Ed Ball made Mar 22 at 2016 9:03 AM

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Claims approved and or increased as relating to National Service Organizations is simply reflective of the evidence being submitted: 1) DD-214 2) Medical evidence with diagnosis of ongoing chronic condition as noted in Military Treatment Records, Private Treatment Records, VAMC Treatment Records, 3) A medical opinion showing "at least likely as not/or more likely than not/is due to" as a result of military service (there must be a link to military service) if condition is not noted in Military Treatment Records 3) For increases; medical evidence that clearly states the chronic condition has gotten worst as noted in 38 CFR Part IV.

Given the above is readily available in a Fully Developed Claim, you could present your claim to the worst NSO (subjective) and the VA would award the claim. Here in Ohio we have 88 counties with almost 200 County Veteran Service Officers, the NSOs are co-located in the Federal Bldg with the VARO, manpower at the NSO level is limited. DAV probably has the most manpower, but here again, if the claim does not meet the above mentioned criteria, their efforts are futile, and the claim will be denied. Then you go into the appeals process with the much needed information (>95% it's a medical Nexus - showing the military was responsible for your chronic disability.) For the presumptive conditions, you just have to prove you were there during the allotted time frame, or in the case of a Blue Water Navy veteran, either traversed an inner country waterway, or a statement showing you went ashore in Vietnam and had boots on soil.

Response by 1SG Ronnie Miller made Mar 22 at 2016 9:04 AM

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In my state of KY; the Ky Dept of Veterans Affairs are head and shoulders above all the others.

Response by SGT Patrcia Palmer made Mar 22 at 2016 9:29 AM

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Personally I don't know because I did my claim myself and I am a 100% total and permanent. I know that the DAV do not believe in appeal, but I think that every one should have the opportunity to have their case get a second look because what one person missed another catches. I have gone through an appeal and a reconsideration. I have heard horror stories each of these service organization. I think its an individual think about who you gets to do your claim.

Response by LTC David Zimmerman made Mar 22 at 2016 9:36 AM

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You are. I have had 7 different individuals from different organizations help me. I can't say any one of them was outstanding. You have to do the work yourself. There are plenty of great websites that give you the right information to win your claim. You have to understand research and preparation is the key to making a successful packet and process. Don't discount getting legal counsel but they wont touch you until after you've put your packet in. Keep studying the process and asking questions. Hope that helps.

Response by PO1 William Garcia made Mar 22 at 2016 10:15 AM

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I went through American Legion. They are great help. When you receive the letter from VA of what you qualified for is acrruate. I took it with great assault. I will re-challenged it later.

Response by MAJ Daniel Flynn made Mar 22 at 2016 10:21 AM

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I joined the American Legion before I got out and they certainly looked out for me. Don't let them send your packet to another state. Apply in your OWN state. If you're having trouble sleeping get checked for sleep apnea BEFORE you get out. Make a copy of your medical records paying particular attention to the readability of X-Ray and lab reports. Good luck.

Response by SFC Terry Clay made Mar 22 at 2016 10:25 AM

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as a current VFW Department Service Officer, i have to say that all of us ( American Legion, DAV, MOPH and the VFW ) that work in the VA Medical Centers and VA Regional Offices have the same training from the VA, what differs is the training we recieve from our parent organizations, i have read the other posts and agree there is a high attrition rate to the VA and can only shake my head, the problem is that we learn more about their system, than their own employees. There are good and bad in any organization, like the guy before me said: give them a job interview!

Response by PO3 Michael Dean made Mar 22 at 2016 10:25 AM

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Yes there is an answer to this question and it can be found in the "yearly claims completed reports" which are done by the Veteran's Benefits Administration. In their reports it says exactly which organization completed a claim for benefits (DAV, Am Leg, VFW) and how many claims for each organization. It also lists the total $ awarded. It does NOT give details on what the claims were for other than "disability". Just Google "VBA DISABILITY AWARDS YEARLY REPORT", that should get you close to finding this public information.

Response by CW3 Stephen Mills made Mar 22 at 2016 10:26 AM

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It really nothing to do with the organization, but rather the specific person helping you and their tenacity and knowledge of the system. I am a life member of VFW, legion and DAV. All are good, but in my area the VFW service center officer is usually your best bet. The VA can help answer questions, but considering they are the final determination I cant say I would start with them.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 10:30 AM

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It's not so much the organization, it's the individual and support the individual receives from the people running the local post. I'm not aware of any help above the local post level the of any of the organizations. My experience has been the state and national levels tend to deal with broader issues for all vets. I coiuld be wrong. My experience has always been at the local level for help.

Response by SCPO Bill Milani made Mar 22 at 2016 10:38 AM

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I found that the local Veterans Affairs office works the best. In the State of Iowa there is a Veterans Affairs office in every county.

Response by SGM Barbara Henson made Mar 22 at 2016 10:44 AM

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It really does depend on the area that you are processing your claim through. I watched my husband use the VFW in Texas with less than great results, plus the VA in El Paso was not positive. When I processed my claim it was through Arkansas VA and I decided to represent myself. The VA in Arkansas was great and I felt like I did a better job for me. But as many have said, educate yourself on the process. And research the VA and VSOs that you will deal with in the area that you will be processing your claim. And the absolute best advice is to keep very good medical records and make 2 copies of everything before you process out of the military. Good luck.

Response by SGM Gregory Hoppe made Mar 22 at 2016 11:08 AM

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I can only speak to the DAV, my wife was hurt In Desert Storm in a Humvee rollover accident. She started her process to get her disability at the urging of a former Bn XO who was a highly placed administrative person in the Veterans Administration in Milwaukee. From the time of the accident until about 2010 she muddled through the system being shunted from one post to another post for examination. After a substantial period of times she was medically discharged. The Army rated her at 10%. Once we moved to Florida. we went to the Bay Pines VA administration building and located the DAV. She finally had enough of doing this by herself and being rejected so she a claim through the DAV. who manage to get the rating to 30%. In 2013 they filed appeal claims for each of her injuries. They also continued to file claims as new injuries were diagnosed and service-connected. Then in early 2014. Her injuries were 100% service connected and rated at 90% and given 100% disability. We don't believe that this would've been accomplished without the help of the DAV.

After a long period of time I finally broke down and I requested a Primary Dr. for treatment. The same Bn XO who registered and guided my wife through the early days of the fight for her disability also registered me with the Veterans Administration. At that time I was way leery of letting anybody at the Veterans Administration touch my body. Not quite the service that you get today. After observing the treatment that my wife received that the Haley VA Hospital here in Tampa, I finally decided to take a chance and see what they could do for me. I was assigned a female doctor that my request and on mining and processing with her we spent about an hour going over everything that could possibly be wrong. She was extremely thorough and I immediately took a liking to her. Doc referred me out for evaluation on my injured knees, hearing and back injuries. They denied the back and knee injury and gave me 10% for the hearing. Needless to say, my next stop was at the DAV. I was assigned a case officer and I went over the various probabilities of service-connected injuries or illness to include agent orange and assorted sundry other illnesses. We are now in the process of filing for the disability on all of the injuries and illnesses. She brought up things that I would've never thought of. All I can say is I'm inclined to recommend the DAV. My link schemes was extremely long and complicated. They took very good care of her and accomplished the rating I mentioned above. Along with the work they are doing for me and the attention that are paying make inclined to recommend the DAV Just my $'s worth!

Response by Sgt Joe LaBranche made Mar 22 at 2016 11:22 AM

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It all depends on the individual being served and the quality of service he/she received. It's not the best record of the organization, it'seems the quality of service given by service officers in the respective veteran organizations. All have good and bad service officerskills. It's like a job interview; learn what question you need to ask to determine how qualified the service officer is. Ask other veterans in the organization what they think of the service officer and how good he/she may be. Once you find a qualified representative, treat your claim process as if it were a job and stay on top of the representative and stay updated on the status of your claim!

Response by SGT Allen Goatcher made Mar 22 at 2016 11:29 AM

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I would choose DAV because they did such a good thing for me. That being said I think it is NOT the organization but more on the individual level. Meaning the person actually doing the work. If the person is knowledgeable of how the VA works, knowledgable of the law which governs the VA, and is not just someone that hands you the paperwork and sends you on your way. What I would do is ask Veterans in your area and usually you can get a sense which organization has the best Counselor. However, I can not stress enough that you gain knowledgeable in the Laws that govern the VA. This is to make sure that you are not missing out on benifits that you might qualify for.

Response by CW2 Don Helton made Mar 22 at 2016 12:01 PM

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If in Kentucky, I recommend Kentucky Department of Veterans Affairs (KDVA). This takes nothing away from the VSOs, but only indicates my respect, and, knowledge, of the quality of service provided by its Field Operations. Field Operations representatives pay monthly visits to counties where their offices are not located making it easier for claims submissions since they are electronically submitted at the time of appointment.

My knowledge of the organization is based upon quarterly briefings provided by the KDVA Commissioner while serving on the Kentucky Governor's Advisory Board for Veterans Affairs and the state Veterans Trust Fund and current membership in the state's Joint Executive Council of Veterans Organizations where the Commissioner provides bi-monthly briefings about their services being provided. Don Helton, Pewee Valley, KY

Response by TSgt Derrol Turner made Mar 22 at 2016 12:24 PM

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I did everything with no assistance, took 6 years but got what I deserved after 2 appeals added in. DAV was listed on my paperwork but I never had contact at all with them, I pushed all the paperwork and made all the necessary calls.

Response by CAPT Michael White made Mar 22 at 2016 12:25 PM

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It depends on the volunteer. I had fantastic luck with the DAV, and my buddy is doing well with the Legion...ask your transition office and talk to different people before committing... You have to be comfortable with the person you are working with; you will be sharing very sensitive, personal information, and the result is critical to your future.

Response by Sgt John Ervin made Mar 22 at 2016 12:28 PM

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Unfortunately I am in a rural area. The DAV left town due to fraud and not paying their rent on their building. I think it was a good move they left as they accused many customers of stealing and ended up loosing in court. The local VFW helps some people, but not others, unknown why. The local state organization is completely worthless and cannot show any successful cases. I am guessing it all depends on the organization. I have been trying to get a 20% claim for 3 years now and no success. Claim is still in appeal. such a small claim, but no one seems to care at all.

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Mar 22 at 2016 12:43 PM

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PO3 Ellsworth Allen Westgate While I cannot directly address your question, as I have had both a DAV and a VFW representative, what I would say is first ensure you have your information prepared to be submitted in support of your claim. If you have or can obtain medical documentation (medical records or statements from physicians) then get it. Submit lay statements in support of your claim along with medical records. Ensure the injury or illness is service connected, directly, by you in your statement in support of your claim, and by medical records and lay statements if possible. A Veterans Service Officer is handy to have and will certainly lead you in the right direction, but much like your career in the military don't devalue ownership.

Response by MSgt Robert DiFilippo made Mar 22 at 2016 1:27 PM

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Yes, it all depends on the quality of the VSO. I tried Florida Dept of Veterans Affairs; DAV, and the American Legion. To tell you the truth, none of them did anything to really help me. I ended u0 filing my claim on my own and received 100% P&T.

Response by SGT James Hunsinger made Mar 22 at 2016 1:41 PM

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As someone who has been helped greatly by DAV I have to say they are probably your best bet.

Response by SP5 Denis Demers made Mar 22 at 2016 1:48 PM

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I am most familiar with American Legion VSOs. They receive intensive one week training with annual updates on VA benefits. Some are employed by local governments and have additional leverage when advocating for the veteran with the VA. I worked with one very experienced county employed VSO who successfully guided and assisted me step-by-step through the process.

Response by MSgt Art Busch made Mar 22 at 2016 1:59 PM

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Amvets rocks.

Response by SFC Raymond Thibault made Mar 22 at 2016 2:04 PM

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I used both the VFW and DAV, and I found the DAV did a better and faster job at getting the evals and appointments. Got me up to 40%.

Response by PO2 Ron Burling made Mar 22 at 2016 2:22 PM

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FWIW, I have used the VFW and the DAV at different times and in different places. There seems to be a great variance in results but it isn't something you can predict based on which organization. All the appointed Veteran Service Officers (VSOs) are supposedly given the same exact training, I don't doubt that. Where the difference seems to arise, in my opinion, is when one VSO is vastly more experienced than the others in the region, and knows the difference between "what is taught" and how "the real world actually operates". It also helps if the VSO is doing more than going through the motions. The advice to "not go it alone" is absolutely some of the best advice on this topic, and there is nothing to say you cannot 'shop around', talk to other Vets in your region, at least, find out what VSO in your region has had the best results.

Response by CPL Thomas Visser made Mar 22 at 2016 2:37 PM

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I have the DAV as my service organization. I'm also a VBA employee and have been since 2000 so I have a bit of background with the VSOs. The DAV has an extensive training program which far surpasses the other VSOs in technical expertise and understanding. These folks get anatomy and physiology training and have a very good working knowledge of the 38 CFR and VBA manuals. I believe you'd be hard pressed to find a VSO with better skills. What does that mean for you? Well, they know what they're doing. They know the claims process and frankly if your claim has no merit, they'll tell you this. They are here to help Veterans and will do so with honest feedback and expert advice.

Response by SFC Michael Barnett made Mar 22 at 2016 2:37 PM

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My question is how do you get from the Service Connected phase to the rating phase? I have been working since before I retired in 2012 and still have not even got a rating on most of my issues. I waived a physical once and still have not even had a physical. Had to appeal the decision of not connected and now waiting and waiting for them to even respond to my appeal. been almost 2 years now.

Response by SFC Michael Barnett made Mar 22 at 2016 2:45 PM

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My question is how you go from the "Service connected" phase to the "Rated" phase? I retired back in 2012 and still waiting. Long story made short, I waived my physical and most of my stuff was denied. But I do have some that did get approved. How do I get from being approved at the 0% to being rated higher?

Response by Cpl David Hagen made Mar 22 at 2016 3:16 PM

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I think that the region of the VA matters too. Some are faster, and so can take more care with more involved cases. Some are overloaded, and a lot of rubber stamping gets done, usually to our detriment. I've moved to Denver, and am about to call the DAV here to ask about this

Response by SGT Jason Daniels made Mar 22 at 2016 3:49 PM

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I put my claim in when I first got out and got the run around for 6 years. Contacted the DAV and within 2 weeks they made things happen......the DAV is on point

Response by CPT David McDonald made Mar 22 at 2016 4:02 PM

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The VFW DAV and American Legion were all useless in my pursuit of my earned benefits. So was the Lawyer,and the State Senator Kloubuchar, and REP Waltz. It took me 39 months of my retirement to finally get my benefits.

Response by LTC Patrick Turner made Mar 22 at 2016 4:58 PM

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This is a very mixed bag and the short answer is NO ONE, in my experience, is better than one organization. It ALL depends upon the individual within that organization. I used DAV and found them incompetent. I used Texas Veterans Commission and found them incompetent. I used Denton County Veterans Service and they were really good. The first two organization's did nothing more than let me write the claim and then attach it to a buck slip and then mail it in. Denton County Veterans actually gave me advice and looked over my claim. That's what you want: actual advice from people who will track your claim. I'd suggest you actually interview an organization and ascertain how much experience they have in claims. If they are relative newbies, I'd stay far away from them. Find the guy or gal who knows what they are doing and don't just go by their name.

Response by SSgt Mark Decker made Mar 22 at 2016 5:01 PM

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I have sen the VFW get faster responses.

Response by TSgt Dan Decker made Mar 22 at 2016 5:33 PM

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I would highly recommend any of the military service organizations over government VSOs. I initially went with a VA VSO for my herbicide claim. Because I was a Thailand vet, he never submitted my claim, s**tcanned it. When I finally found out about it, my complaint and others got him fired. I turned to the Vietnam Veterans of America for help. The VVA VSOs are all volunteers and in my area they are the best at what they do. I can't speak from experience about the DAV or the VFW. Here we have a County VSO as well. She has been on the job for over a year and has yet to finish her training.

Response by CPL Eric Taylor made Mar 22 at 2016 6:06 PM

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From my experience DAV. They did a excellent job on my initial disability claim and with it and my doctors exams, I received 90 percent disability!!

Response by SGT Tim Fridley made Mar 22 at 2016 6:36 PM

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I personally use the DAV and they have done me right so far but I think anyone of them will help just don't try going it alone you for sure need a rep. or you will get screwed

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Mar 22 at 2016 7:43 PM

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The DAV is by far the best organization you can go to for a VA clime.-----Don't make the mistake I made by filing through the American legion, unless you want a five year wait.

Response by LT Don Jaffa made Mar 22 at 2016 7:46 PM

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The question is basically irrelevant because none of them are pro-active toward getting the VA to certify service connection. I set up the Morongo Basin Veterans Disability Clinic which uses local and county and state services to diagnose, treat disabilities first and then get certification as to Service Connection before the disability claim goes forward to the VA. All of that is possible by every service officer within any of the service organizations. The VA is NOT EVEN willing to train service officers UNTIL they take and complete a VA certification program which no one has heard of....

Response by SSG Randall Speck made Mar 22 at 2016 7:49 PM

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The DAV will work on your case, but it has to be submitted to the VA.
Use the DAV first, they'll submit your request for you!

Response by PO3 Ellsworth Allen Westgate made Mar 22 at 2016 8:06 PM

2016-03-22T20:06:54-04:00

I live in YUMA AZ , I'll try VFW if the DAV falls through .... I'm with the MOPH only as a supported .... I cant say if they be worth a shot or not, the rep there didn't seem to like MOPH supporters only recipients ... I know one thing I'll never go though the VA affairs people as long as live.
American Legion is good but always stacked with paper work ....

Response by TSgt Dan Williams made Mar 22 at 2016 9:11 PM

2016-03-22T21:11:10-04:00

If you go through your local VA office they could get the paperwork going...after that if more evidence is needed, the American Legion does quite a bit of work on your behalf.

Response by MAJ Maximino Martell made Mar 22 at 2016 9:15 PM

2016-03-22T21:15:05-04:00

I initially used Purple Heart and they were excellent. After retiring I used the DAV and was successful. Really important that veteran gathers all materials and documents for claim. Followed DAV rep guidance and had great outcome. Do not use EBenefits, go to DAV rep and follow the lead and advice given

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 22 at 2016 9:34 PM

2016-03-22T21:34:55-04:00

I've never used either one, yet I got my claim approved and review/increased once. It's a matter of how you prepare your claim. It matters who is helping you, if they really understand how to write a claim. Wording is everything along with evidence. You got your paper work right, you'll get it done, just a matter of time.

Response by SFC Patricia JANE Babcock made Mar 22 at 2016 10:18 PM

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As a County Veterans Service Officer (CVSO), accredited with 6 national organizations, but employed by my county, I recommend you check out the following webpages: 1st - what is a VSO, our training, and our responsibilities, 2 - a place to search for a CVSO, 3 - a place to search for CVSO's and VSO's in you area.
http://www.benefits.va.gov/VSO/
http://nacvso.org/find-a-service-officer/

Accredited Representatives Home

Veterans Benefits Administration website on Veterans Service Organization

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Mar 22 at 2016 10:32 PM

2016-03-22T22:32:26-04:00

Literally depends on what you bring to the table. You also have to take into account what VA you file with. Only two things you can do, have an airtight claim and be represented for your claim. Talk to each group because certain groups in your area may be for members only, may be state funded, swamped with claims, track records...

Response by PO1 Kevin Arnold made Mar 22 at 2016 11:07 PM

2016-03-22T23:07:04-04:00

Don't choose an organization but a person. For a Veteran's Service Officer would be the best. For that is what they get paid for by the state to do. For I personally have not had to use the VA claim for I am a heathly. For a Veterans Service Officer only services that area instead of the whole state.

Response by CPT Brian Hentz made Mar 22 at 2016 11:56 PM

2016-03-22T23:56:37-04:00

DAV worked hard for me on my claim.

Response by SSG Richard Hackwith made Mar 23 at 2016 1:35 AM

2016-03-23T01:35:40-04:00

I get most of my assistance from my county veterans affairs office plus consulting with an American Legion regional service officer that is a retired VA employee. He even recommended the county office over the local legion service officers.

Response by LT Don Jaffa made Mar 23 at 2016 2:16 AM

2016-03-23T02:16:37-04:00

Here is the nature of the problem. No military doctor from any service is allowed to make the service connection determination on a service member's disability claim, nor is any doctor working for the VA allowed to make 'service connection' determination either. Under the VA system ONLY the claim adjudicator is allowed to make the 'Service Connection' determination, and none of them have any medical training. Any doctor not affiliated with anymilitary service, DOD or the VA can make the determination of 'service connection' based on the military medical records and any diagnostic review that is relevant to the determination.

Response by PO1 Rick Alent made Mar 23 at 2016 2:17 AM

2016-03-23T02:17:03-04:00

VFW helped me with my claim after DAV reviewed my med records. The VFW found a lot more items that I was able to claim than the DAV and I ended up with a 90% rating but still appealing 4 of the ratings and still trying to get my PTSD rating

Response by CPO Raquib Abduallah made Mar 23 at 2016 3:58 AM

2016-03-23T03:58:01-04:00

Veterans Affairs is a state run entity, it has given me a chance to get back on my feet mentally and as wells physically.

Response by CPO Raquib Abduallah made Mar 23 at 2016 4:02 AM

2016-03-23T04:02:12-04:00

I used the Veterans Affairs VA. which is a state ranned agency. I got results after trying for over seven years.

Response by LTC Donald Hinton made Mar 23 at 2016 7:22 AM

2016-03-23T07:22:35-04:00

My guess is that depending on who you get to help, they can all work wonders. I got lucky with a guy from Army Air Force Mutual Aid and was able to get my benefits fast. Unfortunately, he retired and I've not had good luck with his replacement.

Response by SFC Ethan Graves made Mar 23 at 2016 7:22 AM

2016-03-23T07:22:38-04:00

I used DAV out of the Dallas VA center off Lancaster Street and had no issues. They helped me complete my packet request. After that is was a wait (about a year). Then the pay started. I had already been receiving medical care. Best of luck for you. I hope you get in the system.

Response by SPC Natale Koepenick made Mar 23 at 2016 7:26 AM

2016-03-23T07:26:29-04:00

After 15 years of being out, I wents through Ebenefits online to ask for an increase and they put me with AMVETS. After only 5 mos I was increased from %20 to %70 ( I had to submit lots of proof and got to a couple Dr. appts). I was originally %50 when I got out, then the reevaluated me and lowered it to %20. I only got backpaid for the 5 mos I was waiting on the decision (maybe I should of gotten 15 years of backpay?...i'm ok with it, there are other Vets suffering more than me who need the $). Filing online makes it so much quicker in my opinion.

Response by Sgt Gary Steuer made Mar 23 at 2016 7:50 AM

2016-03-23T07:50:08-04:00

My original claim was rejected by the VA , and then I contacted the DAV , and they didn't hold back they will fight for you ! They were relentless . I ended up with a total of 170 % , of course you can only go as high as 100% .... But the thing is they don't give up .....

Response by TSgt Renona Crowden made Mar 23 at 2016 8:05 AM

2016-03-23T08:05:13-04:00

A VSO who has the training and has been nationally accredited by the VA Office of General Counsel has a much better chance of filing a successful claim. You can go to http://www.va.gov and search for Accredited officers.

U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs

The US Department of Veterans Affairs provides patient care and federal benefits to veterans and their dependents. The home page for the Department of Veterans Affairs provides links to veterans benefits and services, as well as information and resources for other Departmental programs and offices.

Response by MAJ Tex Hall made Mar 23 at 2016 2:00 PM

2016-03-23T14:00:20-04:00

It depends on where you are when you do the final VA physical. The VFW at Ft Hood several years back was great. Others that I've talked to at other locations had good luck with the AmVets or American Legion. Find recent retirees where you're located and see what their feedback is.

Response by LTC Mark Beattie made Mar 23 at 2016 2:09 PM

2016-03-23T14:09:22-04:00

I used the DVA, and have used them twice since retirement for a re-evaluation of service connected disabilities. In each case they did a good job. Key is talking with whoever you go with well in advance of your actual retirement and retirement physical. Every vet I've ever known who submitted their claim on their own failed to receive all they were due. Also, when you eventually go in for your VA evaluation physical, don't approach with the attitude you want to demonstrate all you can do in spite of your years of service. That will only hurt your VA rating. You want to discuss your pain or lack of range of motion when at its worst point, not its best. I assure you that after retirement you disabilities will only get worse, not better.

Response by SPC(P) Carlos Santini made Mar 23 at 2016 2:28 PM

2016-03-23T14:28:30-04:00

What is funny about this is I would say none is the best. I did most if not all of my paperwork on my own all the way to 80% and then I went to the VFW here in Vancouver, WA because I kept getting denied over unemployable. With one letter they typed for me I had my 100% within months not years. GO ARMY.

Response by CW4 Robert Goldsmith made Mar 23 at 2016 6:21 PM

2016-03-23T18:21:48-04:00

No VSO has the ability to get a claim approved or increased, so don't be disillusioned. The rules that govern VA rating decisions are legislated by Congress. The burden is on the veteran to provide VBA with the proper forms (21-526EZ, 21-4138, 21-4142) to submit a complete claim as well as to respond to VA correspondence to ensure you make your scheduled appointment, whether with VA or a contracted examiner. Those are the things the make the claims process flow. It helps to have a VSO because they can communicate with VA on your behalf. Just make sure that you have submitted a VA Form 21-22 to give authorization. You can always change your VSO at any time too.

Response by PFC Gary Waldrep made Mar 23 at 2016 8:36 PM

2016-03-23T20:36:36-04:00

none of them have helped me after 38 years. even the lawyers do the same thing

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 23 at 2016 11:16 PM

2016-03-23T23:16:38-04:00

I am told PO3 Ellsworth Allen Westgate Your State Veterans Commission VSOs are your best bet.

Response by PO3 Ellsworth Allen Westgate made Mar 23 at 2016 11:55 PM

2016-03-23T23:55:02-04:00

Don't give up " that's right" I heard of rating going higher than 100% keep in Mind you can lose any rating you get to ... I cant afford a Private Doctor ... The VA is all I have ....

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 7:35 AM

2016-03-24T07:35:11-04:00

I know there are those who will think me biased because I am a lawyer and my firm represents veterans, but an attorney is definitely the best way to go. The laws and regulations concerning veterans' benefits claims are extremely complicated. Many cases have to be argued before various appellate courts, where, while you can represent yourself, you really need an attorney.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 2:38 PM

2016-03-24T14:38:50-04:00

As a VSO with Missouri Veterans Commission and the Past VSO with VFW, I would agree with Terry Clay, we are learning the VA system faster and better than the VA employees. Our interpretation of the VA law allows us to facilitate your claim more effectively. For instance, we know to request your VHA problems list to confirm a Diagnoses and we also reflect your STR's for Diagnoses and secondary's. The VA will not help you in substantiating any claim. The leg work comes from your VSO. A sit down with your VSO face to face, and you can tell if they are knowledgeable or just punching claim numbers. I personally do not like the DAV as they believe in numbers, but that's my preference.

Response by SGT Michael Bond made Mar 24 at 2016 8:38 PM

2016-03-24T20:38:55-04:00

American Legion in this area; VA Cleveland, does a great job and their Service Officers are well trained. I volunteered as a local VSO and worked with all POAs (power of attorney) at Regional and the AL had a bigger staff, but all the organizations do the same work. So speed in filing and keeping "New and Material Evidence" fresh is what makes a VSO helpful. No VSO or Power of attorney decides awards or increases, and the Regional Judges really just follow law.

Response by MSG Jim Gawne made Mar 24 at 2016 11:12 PM

2016-03-24T23:12:16-04:00

As a life member of the DAV, I would recommend the DAV. I have used the DAV Services twice in the past 15 years. Both times I was very pleased with the assistance and the outcome. ALL the service organizations listed are excellent in their representation of the veteran and preparation of claims. Based on your picture, I would also suggest that you become a member of IAVA (Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.)

Response by SSG James Bigbie made Mar 25 at 2016 10:38 PM

2016-03-25T22:38:50-04:00

I used the VFW for my claims and had very good success. I know that here in Texas, there is the Texas Veterans Commission that does the same thing and does a very good job. Whomever you choose, make sure that they are energetic and committed to doing right by you. I don't know that any of them have a better or worse record, and probably wouldn't tell you if they do know.

Response by SGT Dave Brimmer, MS, MPA made Apr 6 at 2016 9:10 AM

2016-04-06T09:10:11-04:00

Frank, you post some pretty good questions, my friend!

These folks have some pretty good advice for you but I'd like to add just one other component. You live in Arizona. Your state has a number of permanent locations that are state-run and VA-certified to assist you in compiling, preparing, requesting, and appealing claims to VA. The service officers at these locations are (if they are anything like NJ) very well trained and experienced in doing this type of work. It might be worth your time to check out the nearest location to you. Just a thought.

Oh, one other thing. Never...EVER...pay someone to help you with this process. There are too many folks out there who to quality work for free, brother.

Here's the link to your state VSO locations: https://dvs.az.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/VBC-Office-Locations-Permanent-Flyer.pdf

Response by SGT Patrcia Palmer made Apr 7 at 2016 3:58 PM

2016-04-07T15:58:44-04:00

I am 100% P&T and I did all my paperwork myself. I am not a certified rep but I have help several veterans to submit their claim and they got 90% and 80% respectively. I think that it take a person who really cares about the veteran to help them get what they deserved and yes they have to know the rules and laws that govern the VA rating system. How many veterans are told about clothing allowance for custom back/knee brace as well as wheel chair? I try to learn as much as I can so that I can share the information with other veterans....

Response by SGT Paul Mackay made Apr 14 at 2016 8:59 PM

2016-04-14T20:59:03-04:00

DAV

Response by SGT Paul Mackay made Apr 16 at 2016 8:08 PM

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DAV

Response by PO3 Allen Gumpenberger made Jul 12 at 2016 1:39 AM

2016-07-12T01:39:07-04:00

In my opinion, a skilled and knowledgable advocate is only portion ally important. Having an advocate who truly cares about the outcome is critical. You need confidence that they have a strategy and are working towards a clear objective.

Response by MAJ John Smith made Jul 14 at 2016 1:52 PM

2016-07-14T13:52:58-04:00

It matters not which organization you seek help from. What matters is the individual. You must remember that many of those offering help have full time jobs. Like everything in life some individuals have more experience and knowledge and desire.

Response by TSgt Dan Decker made Jul 21 at 2016 6:15 PM

2016-07-21T18:15:12-04:00

I chose the VVA to assist me with my claims/appeals. Here in the Texas Hill Country they provide the most assistance to all veterans. I am now 100%SC thanks to their efforts. I would imagine that anyone other than VA VSOs would do fine, but to be safe, check with other vets in your local area.

Response by MSG Robert Conrad made Jul 31 at 2016 7:05 PM

2016-07-31T19:05:25-04:00

Find somebody you communicate well with. Im a VA rater and want you to know each claim is unique. Nobody has processed a claim exactly like yours. Find somebody that seems knowledgable and you feel comfortable explaining the laws, regulations and rules that apply to your claim. Secondly do read through the information on the website, there is a lot. If you break it into one hour sessions and spend a week "studying" you will have a pretty good idea how the workflow is supposed to work. Do find a VSO to assist you though, what you do not know can cost you benefits.
Thank you for your service!

Response by SGT James Hammons made Aug 17 at 2016 11:18 AM

2016-08-17T11:18:07-04:00

The VFW has a trained service as does the DAV. I am a member of both and find that you are your own best advocate. I use the DAV.

Response by Cpl Walter Fidler made Mar 1 at 2018 1:46 PM

2018-03-01T13:46:32-05:00

I am looking for help with the disabilities i have that were created while in the Marine Corps

Response by LCpl Randy Cline made May 15 at 2018 2:11 PM

2018-05-15T14:11:59-04:00

I dont beleive the DAV has helped that much I was awrded NSc pension P&Tin 2002 VA denies all conditions in 2016 and thats on appeal now TDIU and residuals back surgery and diabetes

Response by COL John McClellan made May 18 at 2018 12:35 PM

2018-05-18T12:35:42-04:00

There are no "stats" on this - my advice, find the closest outlet to you, meet the VSO, and if your sense is that you trust the person across from you, then go with them!

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2018 2:21 PM

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This question is mostly geared toward VSOs, but I'll put in a plug for utilizing an attorney. VSOs are definitely the best option in my opinion for filing initial claims, but if you are looking to get an increase
in your rating or appeal a denial, you might see greater success with an attorney. I'll even add a shameless self-promotion for my family law firm. Berry Law Firm (ptsdlawyers.com) was founded by my father, John Stevens Berry, a Vietnam Veteran, and is currently managed by my brother, John Berry, who served tours in both Bosnia and Iraq. Across the Firm, we have an O6, three O5's, three O4's, a couple O3's, and a few prior Enlisted, all dedicated to improving the lives and outcomes of our fellow Veterans. It's comforting to me to work with a law firm that could stand up its own Unit.

Response by SFC Quincy Felthauser made May 11 at 2019 11:30 AM

2019-05-11T11:30:46-04:00

I’d avoid the DAV. I’m a lifetime member. When the DAV sent my appeal letter to the Board of Veterans Appeals, the got my name wrong. They also got my dates of service incorrect (missed about 20 years or so). They also started of mentioning one leg I was claiming and then finished with the other (the wrong one)...only could get a copy of the letter. Couldn’t get a hold of anyone to talk to about it. Wrote local and DC. Called a bunch also. I was told by one rep, when I did get a hold of someone (different matter); after I told them the VA was claiming it was in possession of ALL of my medical records, that the VA would not provide me a copy (critical to my case as the records will show a service connection). I asked for them to help. The DAV rep I talked to said they have nothing to do with medical records. Being that medical records are critical to any claim, how can they not help with this? been a DAV member for 12 years, haven’t gotten help in the 12 years...useless as the NRA...lifetime member there also...

Response by SFC Quincy Felthauser made May 11 at 2019 1:09 PM

2019-05-11T13:09:41-04:00

The worst thing is the letter they sent to the board. If they would of consulted me, I would of told the. About the errors. They weren’t even close on my dates of service. They had something like two years of service, and the wrong years; not the 24 years I served. The letter has so many factual errors and grammatical mistakes. And I couldn’t get a hold of anyone...calling and emailing...even through their website....finally notified the board that I was revoking the DAV’s power of attorney. Only choice at that point....since if I didn’t the letter would stand, since the DAV wouldn’t withdraw it...

Response by SFC Quincy Felthauser made May 11 at 2019 2:16 PM

2019-05-11T14:16:18-04:00

My experience with the VA...I did 24 years in the Infantry, mostly Light. Some airborne. The VA States my right knee is service connected but my left knee isn’t...go figure...and they seem unable to show me they have my medical records for my first 4 years of service...the ones they are saying they have reviewed; and are using to deny my service connection claim...

Response by SPC Adrian Martin made Dec 27 at 2019 2:11 PM

2019-12-27T14:11:04-05:00

Does anyone have any info on VETERANSCLAIMS LAWFIRM? LIKE A FAIR ASSESSMENT of their services?