Who do you go to if Soldier is ETSing next week, has no orders, is barred for reenlistment, flag was lifted months ago and TDS can’t help?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:24:06 -0500

Literally asking for a friend. He has contacted his congressman, if I remember correctly he did say he went to IG already with no help.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jan 26 at 2020 2:56 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:56:46 -0500

So what did they say at IG? Open door policy ala AR 600-20. Start there. The ETS is as you say on the ERB with no flags? ETS is favorable action.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jan 26 at 2020 3:33 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:33:10 -0500

I apologize, but if he said he went to the IG with out orders with one week left and they didn’t assist I have to holler BS. You are an NCO and his friend, contact his Plt Sgt and see if he will not assist with your understanding of what truly is the situation. Either way, I have never heard of a Soldier a week out from ETS, who everyone ignored.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2020 4:39 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:39:52 -0500

According to my buddy he hasn’t received orders. Now, being that his unit is deploying it could be that they’re more focused on movement then to worry about what’s going on with him. I’m not in his unit, I was just asking for information in seeing if someone might have gone through a similar situation.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2020 4:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:43:55 -0500

He hasn't received orders because he hasn't submitted his ETS packet. These things don't happen all on their own, the Soldier has to submit his packet to ETS so transition can cut his separation orders. Of course, if they don't, he will still ETS.

If he wasn't barred he could extend a month or two to give him time to transition. His flag and bar are separate things, and he can still be barred at the Commander's discretion even once his flag is lifted.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Jan 26 at 2020 5:11 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 17:11:18 -0500

I have spent my share of time getting rid of Soldiers (Rear Det NCO for those who weren't able to finalize chapter before deployment). I have also spent my share of time helping Soldiers ETS the right way. And helping them re-enlist. Not once did I see a situation where people were refusing to help a Soldier get orders.

Either tje unit hates the kid - in which case they want to get him orders so he can disappear ASAP. Or they don't. In which case they are going to do what it takes to help him transition properly.

Methinks there is more to the story OR the story isn't fully accurate.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 27 at 2020 12:42 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:42:03 -0500

Not to throw rocks, but this story stinks like week long guests. 1. No CoC wants or likes Congressional because it gets back up to the 4 stars. 2. Yes unit really doesn't have much to do with his ETS orders as the list normally comes down from Post as to who is leaving, at least 30-60 days in advance. 3. If the IG can't/doesn't want to help him, then perhaps the SM has bad time on the books which will automatically extend their ETS date.