When is partying at a military ball too far out of control?

2015-05-17T12:51:19-04:00

When does having fun becomes unprofessional and out of control. Now I like to have myself but voice your opinions on what you all think about this event.

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 12:57 PM

2015-05-17T12:57:37-04:00

I apologize for the misspelling of Military in the heading.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made May 17 at 2015 1:04 PM

2015-05-17T13:04:48-04:00

No fights, no strippers (damnit), no badly dressed individuals.
Out of uniform, yes. Loud, yes. Rowdy, yes.
MP's, none in sight. Cop didn't see it they didn't do it.
Not my type of party but all in all doesn't seem too bad when you consider what could be happening.
Oh, and the dancing left alot to be desired from a military bearing point of view.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 1:15 PM

2015-05-17T13:15:25-04:00

WT* was going there. I have never been to anything like that. That is a sorry excuse of an female officer to be dancing like that. I am surprised no one threw out some bills. I have been to some wild parties but there is no place like for that in uniform. At least go change first. I would lose complete respect for an officer if I saw her doing that. There were junior enlisted there that were just staring at her rear end. If you were to do that any other time in uniform it would a SHARP issue. Time like that I am glad I am infantry.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made May 17 at 2015 1:45 PM

2015-05-17T13:45:55-04:00

Apparently that was SOME video as the link is closed down. Ha!

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made May 17 at 2015 1:49 PM

2015-05-17T13:49:14-04:00

For me it's simple, even w/o seeing the video. If you wouldn't want your significant other, your parents or kids to see you acting in a particular manner, then DON'T DO IT.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 2:56 PM

2015-05-17T14:56:08-04:00

Looks like the site got taken down.

Having said that, you are still in the military when you go to a Ball. here are lots of Senior people there. Being an Ass Clown will come back to haunt you.

You have been warned.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:05 PM

2015-05-17T15:05:27-04:00

And the video is gone.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:14 PM

2015-05-17T15:14:52-04:00

Must have been a GOOD one. Video evidence seem to have been removed :)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 3:15 PM

2015-05-17T15:15:25-04:00

Just so you know that the person that posted the video was a SPC. He is in the 36th EN BDE out of Fort Hood. And this is why you should be cautious of what you post on Facebook and the internet. It is easy find info about you. I am glad I am not in that unit.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 4:01 PM

2015-05-17T16:01:54-04:00

I seen my Sargent Major get drunk at a ball. Not crazy but relaxed & chill where he was pulling Soldiers up to Dance & have fun. It was funny & nice to see him as a normal human being.

Now I can't see the video to see the example but the Military ball is to have fun & relax with each other. After a certain time when the "party poopers" left we all started having some fun. Nothing too much

Response by COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM made May 17 at 2015 4:36 PM

2015-05-17T16:36:15-04:00

When is partying at a military ball too far out of control?
- When it violates Army profession and professional standards as outlined by UCMJ (illegal, immoral, unethical), customs, and traditions.
- When it can or does end up on the front page of a major news organization and reflects poorly upon our profession.
- When it "goes viral" or has the potential go "go viral" and reflects poorly upon our profession.
- When a person would be (or should be) embarrassed to have their parents, spouse, or children see the conduct directly or indirectly via video, reports, or the like.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 17 at 2015 4:47 PM

2015-05-17T16:47:06-04:00

Well someone tell the feeble minded what happened in the video!!!!

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made May 17 at 2015 7:19 PM

2015-05-17T19:19:37-04:00

Can't say times have changed. However, the introduction of iphones w/ video recorders (and social media) have accelerated the time from when the initial misstep occurs to when the SgtMaj is asking you to "see him first thing Monday morning." I didn't see the video. But, I can guess that someone had some 'splaining to do. So, I answered the question: You know you've crossed the line when you get a text/e-mail/phone call to "see the SgtMaj."

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made May 18 at 2015 12:35 AM

2015-05-18T00:35:18-04:00

When it gets to the point to bring embarrassment to the unit, or the party goers. If you do anything that lowers the level of respect that your troops have in you then you went too far. Leaders should be ever vigilant to not damage their reputation, and command presence. The Commander CAN NOT afford to be seen in any compromising light.