When does rage become a method of communicating, and is it helpful in discussion?

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Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Jan 31 at 2017 8:03 AM

2017-01-31T08:03:12-05:00

Rage? Almost never effective in normal life. Most people will just think you're psycho. But if you catch some punk in the act of stealing your car, true rage might scare him off, because he thinks you're a psycho. Of course, the punk might have a gun and your rage just got you shot.

Response by CSM Chuck Stafford made Jan 31 at 2017 8:03 AM

2017-01-31T08:03:51-05:00

The only time rage works is when the rules of the game favor the loudest voice. Not very effective in 99% of professional settings

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2017 8:10 AM

2017-01-31T08:10:54-05:00

Rage is helpful when you are communicating by means of lethal weapons, that's really about it! Any other time rage is counterproductive and weakens your arguments.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Jan 31 at 2017 8:50 AM

2017-01-31T08:50:42-05:00

Rage is never acceptable in normal conversations. However, that is the norm these days versus the exception. We, and I mean we because I have been guilty of it, tend to get enraged when others disagree with us. We can't accept that we are wrong. Don't know where that crept in to society as a whole but it has. It is ok to be wrong and admit that you just learned something new...that is the mark of a mature and well versed individual.

BUT...I will shut down and not listen to a word anyone has said if they use a loud voice or rage (outside of boot camp)...to me that is a sign of immaturity and lack of knowledge...out of the mouth come the words of the heart!!!

Response by 2LT David Phillips made Jan 31 at 2017 9:14 AM

2017-01-31T09:14:03-05:00

Rage: violent, uncontrollable anger. (Thank you Daniel Webster) NEVER has a place in the U.S. Military. We always replace "rage" with "resolve".
Don't ever confuse the fact that yelling at someone or displaying extreme emotion is "rage". If you are yelling or you are passionately making your point, it's for a purpose. But keep it to a very small set of circumstance.
I would be curious what some of these distinguished leaders use as a pretext to an intense controlled emotion to effectively convey a point, so that whatever it was that pissed him off, doesn't happen again. That would be a good slant on this thread.

Response by SFC Dennis A. made Jan 31 at 2017 9:46 AM

2017-01-31T09:46:04-05:00

Passion, excitement in communicating are a good thing, rage almost always means that you have lost control of both yourself and the situation.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Feb 1 at 2017 12:20 PM

2017-02-01T12:20:39-05:00

"When someone brings you an argument and you respond with snarkiness and sarcasm...You waken the Demon.
When someone brings you an argument and you respond with Rage...You summon the Demon.
When someone brings you an argument and you respond with Violence...You are the Demon."
Stefan Molyneux

No, rage and violence do not work. What works is calm clear assessment of the situation followed by hard work and action. Yes, the political situation we find ourselves in today is frightening and the left lost an election they thought they would easily win. However, the ever escalating calls for violence against people for nothing more than political disagreements is, to use a line from Star Wars, "the path to the dark side". When you define whoever you disagree with as a Nazi or a Fascist, you are asking for violence. The reality is that when people or groups decide to "Rage" they have already decided to use violence. Then after they've sucker punched someone, they claim its OK because "he was a fascist". What they don't understand is that by committing violence, they are weakening and possibly breaking the bonds of civilized restraint, not just among their allies, but among their enemies. The problem with violence, which promises to immediately silence your enemies and solve your anxieties, is that does not solve anything. Violence is self justifying and quickly circles back on the originator then escalates out of control. Immanuel Kant said "act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world " or to use a more biblical quote "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Response by PFC John Henry Parker made Feb 10 at 2018 9:16 AM

2018-02-10T09:16:07-05:00

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2018-02-10T09:16:23-05:00

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Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Feb 10 at 2018 9:35 AM

2018-02-10T09:35:04-05:00

NO, it does not help. Too damn many people read Saul Allinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and it's help destroy civil debate in the nation. Schools and Parents have failed to teach civil behavior or the simple fact that there are 8 billion people on Earth, 7,999,999,999 of whom don't agree with everything you believe. I despise the current tactics of attacking the opponent rather than debating the strengths of your position.