What the hell is wrong with this idiot? Huckabee: Dred Scott Decision “Remains To This Day The Law Of the land".

2015-09-12T21:35:07-04:00

The Dred Scott decision was overturned by the 14th Amendment. Evidently Mike Huckabee is more like a Huckleberry. This is unbelievable. Here's one candidate who has already lost.

While defending Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis’s refusal to issue marriage licenses out of her religious opposition to same-sex marriage, Mike Huckabee said Wednesday that the Supreme Court’s 1857 ruling in Dred Scott v. Sandford — which held that all blacks, free or enslaved, could not be American citizens — is still the law of the land even though no one follows it.
Radio host Michael Medved quickly pointed out to the former governor of Arkansas that the decision was overturned by the 13th Amendment. (Although the 13th Amendment ended slavery, the birthright citizenship clause in the 14th Amendment overturned the Dred Scott decision.)
“I’ve been just drilled by TV hosts over the past week, ‘How dare you say that, uh, it’s not the law of the land?’” Huckabee said. “Because that’s their phrase, ‘it’s the law of the land.’ Michael, the Dred Scott decision of 1857 still remains to this day the law of the land which says that black people aren’t fully human. Does anybody still follow the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision?”
After correcting Huckabee, Medved then asked the candidate if he would attempt to overturn the Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling with a constitutional amendment.
“I don’t think that’s necessary,” Huckabee replied. “Because, in the case of this decision, it goes back to what Jefferson said that if a decision is rendered that is not borne out by the will of the people either through their elected people and gone through the process, if you just say it’s the law of the land because the court decided, then Jefferson said, ‘You now have surrendered to judicial tyranny.’”
“The Supreme Court in the same-sex marriage decision made a law and they made it up out of thin air. Therefore, until Congress decides to codify that and give it a statute it’s really not an operative law and that’s why what Kim Davis did was operate under not only the Kentucky Constitution which was the law under which she was elected but she’s operating under the fact that there’s no statute in her state nor at the federal level that authorizes her,” Huckabee said before Medved cut him off for a break.
Earlier in the interview, Huckabee elaborated on a cutoff of his own, adding to an explanation he gave for his staff’s blocking of Ted Cruz’s attempt to come onstage at Kim Davis’s release from jail, an event he says was “our event.”
He told Medved that he had never heard of a candidate attending “another candidate’s event.”
“I’d never go to another candidate’s event,” he said. “I just don’t do that and I don’t know of any candidate who ever has.”

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 9:41 PM

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If ever you've seen his show on Fox News you can understand that he is very set in his ways.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 9:42 PM

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Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 9:43 PM

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 10:02 PM

2015-09-12T22:02:43-04:00

While I wouldn't call him an idiot, his opinion is very dangerous. I'm reminded of a case that went before the Supreme court in 1832, Worcester v. Georgia. In it the Supreme Court decided that Indian tribes were themselves sovereign states and not subject to State laws. This ruling should have prevented the Trail of Tears from taking place however President Andrew Jackson's response was "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" Public opinion in the South was on Andrew Jackson's side so one of the more shameful events in American history took place despite a Supreme Court ruling against it.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 11:41 PM

2015-09-12T23:41:08-04:00

I would call him a moron. 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. Therefore, the Supreme Court’s 1857 ruling in Dred Scott v. Sandford is voided.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2015 12:19 AM

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This is a joke, right?

An amendment overrides any legal precedence. And I am sure the gay marriage legalization wasn't made "out of thin air" as this has been a struggle for the homosexual community for decades.

I wish people would stop trying to put Kim Davis on a pedestal. She isn't Rosa Parks, she is the bus driver that told Rosa Parks to give up her seat. If you don't like that analogy, fine, lets put it into a perspective that we can all relate to: when your commanding officer tells you to do something no matter how ridiculous, you do it. There isn't a middle ground; sure if you are a SNCO you may be able to advise and convince the commander that the idea isn't feasible but ultimately it's his call and his decision. Our government made a decision, Kim Davis works for the government... She refused to perform her duties- at that point is doesn't matter why- I don't care if a woman (that has violated the sanctity of marriage multiple times and has been divorced three times) feels it's against her religion, it's her job. In the Marine Corps there is a running joke that squashes situations like this: USMC= U Signed a Motherfucking Contract. If she doesn't like it, she can get out of it, she instead decided to deny a legally bound right to a couple. Religion should have no impact on performance of duties.

I know there are plenty of people of all ranks that believe the laws of God supersede the laws of man... Fine. But at the end of the day you are bound by your oath to this nation, you are bound to the laws of man- the bible says slavery is fine, our government says its wrong. According to the bible touching the skin of a dead pig is unclean- yet you probably enjoy those Sunday football games. Reservists and anyone standing duty are working on the Sabbath, should we be put to death?! Are you starting to see why assuming the "laws" of the bible (yes the laws of the bible- not the laws of God- God didn't write the bible; an Ancient Hebrew exposed to a significantly harsher and technologically backwards society did) aren't exactly relevant in the present day, nearly 5,000-ish years after its creation?!

Of course you don't; Kim Davos supporters don't think critically, but they will still try to poke holes in my argument anyways, even though it's a sound argument. Now if you will excuse me, I need to prepare to go to Drill tomorrow and work on the Sabbath, and follow the orders of my commander ( in other words do my damn job, something Kim Davis has a problem with), and then I'm going to go home and watch football and have gratuitous amounts of alcohol to block out the stupid this nation seems to thrive on (myself included since I'm writing all of this). Then after all that is done, I'll check this to see those hole poking Kim Davis supporter responses... And then I will most likely drink some more.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2015 1:19 AM

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I'm not a fan, but he's trying to make a point that the SCOTUS can make bad decisions and his support for Kim Davis, in his mind, is a bad decision.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 13 at 2015 7:54 AM

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Talk about Social, Cultural, Moral and most definitely Political Suicide he just committed in opening his mouth this time.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 13 at 2015 8:25 AM

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Response by PO2 Steven Erickson made Sep 13 at 2015 9:07 AM

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Anyone - ANYONE - who wants to be President should immediately be disqualified from holding the office because either: 1) they have no idea what the job really requires and therefore hold a delusional belief that they are qualified; or 2) they are clinically narcissistic and believe that the country needs them to be President.

This theorem, which I have, in my own delusional and narcissistic manner, named the "Erickson Presidential Exclusion Principle" (sorry, Dr Pauling), applies without exception to every presidential candidate since Abraham Lincoln (excluding Ronald Reagan, of course, because the country actually DID need him at the time).

And don't bother contradicting me because, like I said, I'm delusional and will dismiss your pathetic attempts in a classically narcissistic manner.

"Hail to the king, baby!" - Ash, S-Mart Housewares Associate and Evil Dead Slayer.

Response by MSgt Manuel Diaz made Sep 13 at 2015 9:51 AM

2015-09-13T09:51:25-04:00

Well
BEHAVIORAL EXPERIMENT (AND THAT IS THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN)

You start with a cage containing four monkeys, and inside the cage you hang a banana on a string, and then you place a set of stairs under the banana.

Before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.

You then spray ALL the monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray ALL the monkeys with cold water.

Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it using force !

Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new monkey. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, ALL of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and
attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original four monkeys, replacing it with a new monkey. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment - with enthusiasm -- because he is now part of the "team."

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new monkey, followed by the fourth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. Having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining
monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds, that is the way it has always been!

This is how today's House and Senate operates, and this is why, from time to time, ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME!