What task or experience do you feel your Drill Sgts didn't train you for or spend enough time on?

2015-05-17T17:26:38-04:00

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:28 PM

2015-05-17T17:28:53-04:00

Combatives and D&C

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:29 PM

2015-05-17T17:29:53-04:00

Combat movements

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:35 PM

2015-05-17T17:35:01-04:00

I would agree with PFC Rana. However, I would also say that we could have learned the importance of the cls a lot more.

Response by PFC Zanie Young made May 17 at 2015 5:47 PM

2015-05-17T17:47:30-04:00

JAG

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 5:52 PM

2015-05-17T17:52:16-04:00

How to use AKO.

Response by PFC Stephens Clark made May 17 at 2015 6:47 PM

2015-05-17T18:47:51-04:00

they did not spend enough time on Field Ops, Instead my Drill Sergeants spent more time on teaching First Aid to my Platoon. We did not spend enough time on hand to hand combat, or even field cleaning our weapons, its like they rushed us through everything. our Gas Chamber day was only 2 hrs one time through, and we were done. obstacle course was shorter than normal.

Response by PFC Alex Rivers made May 17 at 2015 7:12 PM

2015-05-17T19:12:01-04:00

Definitely was lacking in the field ops department, but a lot of the tms and instructional manuals still rely on tactics devised during the 70s and 80s. We need a new way of training soldiers for the ever changing tactic met on the battlefield.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 7:12 PM

2015-05-17T19:12:02-04:00

D&C, land nav, ako, ALMS, SSD, promotion packets and what to properly do when we have something AMBER.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 8:10 PM

2015-05-17T20:10:12-04:00

As a drill sergeant I will put it to you young soldiers this way. I only have 9 very short weeks to teach you a laundry list of tasks. That is not enough time to make you proficient in any of those tasks. If I were to train soldiers to a high level of proficiency in even one or two of the tasks those who have commented above have mentioned you would have lost out on training for everything else. You have to understand that basic training is literally the basics and nothing more. And you go to AIT to become proficient at your MOS. Beyond AIT you get even more training and become more proficient at your job when you get to your first unit. Basic training is not the beginning and the end of training in the military. If you wanted more field training you should have picked a combat MOS. If you wanted more medical training you should have been a 68 series. If you aren't good at land nav you should have paid more attention in basic because I know for sure you get it all there. Land nav isn't hard. I do everything I can to answer all my soldiers questions and sometimes give them more info than they really need regarding any and all aspects of the military. I am sure that not every drill sergeant is like that or cares that much but I for one teach basic trainees everything I can that is relevant to them in the short time that I have. If you didn't get that and you want that kind of training then at this point it's on you to be proactive and find the opportunities to get that training.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 8:31 PM

2015-05-17T20:31:52-04:00

My ds went out of there way to give us extra training. But for the most part it was D&C we went over basic movements but for the most part it's all you really use unless your on a duty requiring more D&C or an event.

Response by CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 10:57 PM

2015-05-17T22:57:09-04:00

SSG Garza is 100% correct.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 10:56 AM

2015-05-18T10:56:53-04:00

Looking thru these comments I have to say, Most of what is being brought up is First Duty Station for Active Components and Should be taught in DEP/RSP for reserve and NG. For the stuff that actually should be taught in basic to be able to go over it in more detail BCT would have to be lengthened to like 13+weeks... It saddens me that Looking over these posts it seems like Team Leaders and Squad Leaders out there are not taking the time to fully train their new soldiers in what they need to know. When I first came back from BCT in 2005 My Team Leader spent 3 hours on the computer with me showing me how to navigate AKO how to find my records in IPERMS how to look at MEDPROS and Interpret it so that way I knew how to check for myself if something needed to get taken care of.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 1:24 PM

2015-05-18T13:24:57-04:00

We get most everything at first unit. Going there I wasn't "lost in the sauce" I only had trouble using AKO...

Response by SGT Anthony Rossi made May 18 at 2015 7:11 PM

2015-05-18T19:11:57-04:00

Not all soldiers are the same. We all joined the military with different experiences. To some soldiers certain tasks come easy. But if you grew up in the middle of Chicago you may not have a clue on how to prep for a Field exercise. If you grew up on a farm you may have no clue on how to look sharp in your ASUs. PFC my 7 years of wrestling helped tremendously in hand to hand combat, but I had no experience with living in the woods. There is a place where a soldier has to take charge, but it's the SGTs job to motivate the soldier to do so. Thanks PFC for your motivation!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 2:01 AM

2015-05-24T02:01:07-04:00

Land nav. They asked who got as high as algebra 2. Than had those individuals learn everything made teams around those individuals and that's how we did the Land nav course in bct. Follow the leader basically. I am learning on my own now through fm 3-25.26. But would've been cool to go through it more in bct