What should I do with a soldier who is always on profile who uses that excuse to not do simple daily tasks?

2023-07-01T23:51:50-04:00

Need advice. I’m currently a team leader and I am having issues with a soldier. Background on this soldier he is always on profile and uses that excuse to not do simple daily tasks. He is never at work always manages to have an appointment and does not listen to anything leadership has to tell him. Three weeks ago I counseled him for having an expired license. I showed him how to renew it. He still hasn’t done it and I feel like I’m running out of options on how to better this soldier. He plans on reenlisting but I feel like he just uses the army as a free paycheck since he has an “deadman’s profile”. Any advice would help thank you!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2023 12:09 AM

2023-07-02T00:09:31-04:00

Provide him one last counseling stating:

"You will provide me a list of your scheduled appointments." This will put him in place to actually make it to his appointments. This way you are tracking his appointments and that you can call those locations to verify that your Soldier was their for the scheduled appointment. If they never showed...bam. Dead to rights.
"You will get your drivers license renewed by (insert date)."

Of course, you'd need to add more meat and potatoes to the counseling, but those would be the main points. Also, put in the counseling that if they fail to do these, then you will recommend to the Commander for UCJM for violation of the following:

Article 83: Malingering
Article 86: Failure to go to appointed place of duty
Article 92: Failure to Obey Order or Regulation.

At the end of the day, some Soldiers can't be helped no matter how hard you try. As for reenlistment, the Commander could put in place a Bar to Re-Enlistment. See AR 601-280.

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made Jul 2 at 2023 3:52 AM

2023-07-02T03:52:08-04:00

You can ask for appointment times but remember HIPPA says you cannnot ask what.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 2 at 2023 6:50 AM

2023-07-02T06:50:45-04:00

MSG Livingston hit the foundation. The articles cited are post counseling and subsequent failure. You mention Dean Man Walking profile and stated always on profile which is it? If his profile is permanent, what type is it? Is it you unit medical PA or Doc issuing these profiles, or some other military source? Malingering is especially challenging when the profiles are issued by a competent authority. You should request that your Platoon or Company leadership discusses these profiles if issued locally.

Do your homework, the Company should have a copy of each issued profile, the offices visited will have a record of past appointments as well. When doing your homework, verifying appointments is a good way to build the foundation of your counceling and path forward.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jul 2 at 2023 2:33 PM

2023-07-02T14:33:23-04:00

You counsel them every time they fail to do their mission/task. After accruing a handful of these- see the Chain of Command about chaptering said troop!

Response by SSG Steve Knox made Jul 5 at 2023 12:42 PM

2023-07-05T12:42:34-04:00

I would speak with the post chaplain and listen closely to what the soldiers fellow team members are saying about him\her. Soldier could be experiencing social, mental or psychological issues.