SPC Private RallyPoint Member6561504<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I got selected to attend the Fire Academy, dates aren't out yet but it's likely this summer. Advanced Camp is definitely this summer (I'm an MSIII), dates aren't out for that either. I'm expecting that they'll overlap. <br /><br />I want to join the Army NG and do firefighting as a career. The selection for firefighters doesn't happen every year, I've been waiting for the recruitment to open for the past 2 years.<br /><br />Guidance on what to do?What should I do if my Advanced Camp and Fire Academy schedules conflict?2020-12-08T06:13:57-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member6561504<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I got selected to attend the Fire Academy, dates aren't out yet but it's likely this summer. Advanced Camp is definitely this summer (I'm an MSIII), dates aren't out for that either. I'm expecting that they'll overlap. <br /><br />I want to join the Army NG and do firefighting as a career. The selection for firefighters doesn't happen every year, I've been waiting for the recruitment to open for the past 2 years.<br /><br />Guidance on what to do?What should I do if my Advanced Camp and Fire Academy schedules conflict?2020-12-08T06:13:57-05:002020-12-08T06:13:57-05:00MAJ Javier Rivera6561550<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You cannot reschedule Advanced Camp to the next year, those dates are written on stone. How often does your FD offers an academy? That would be your flexible pointResponse by MAJ Javier Rivera made Dec 8 at 2020 6:36 AM2020-12-08T06:36:05-05:002020-12-08T06:36:05-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member6561630<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Would it work if you went to AC in the very beginning or end of the summer? I had friends swap AC Regiment training cycles just a few weeks out.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2020 7:06 AM2020-12-08T07:06:24-05:002020-12-08T07:06:24-05:00CPT Andrew Wright6561806<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sounds like the Fire Academy dates are the most flexible. However, I remember some cadets attending Advanced Camp after college graduation and commissioned at the end of Advanced Camp. Best of Luck!Response by CPT Andrew Wright made Dec 8 at 2020 8:01 AM2020-12-08T08:01:55-05:002020-12-08T08:01:55-05:00COL John McClellan6561821<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Talk to your ROTC advisor!Response by COL John McClellan made Dec 8 at 2020 8:12 AM2020-12-08T08:12:56-05:002020-12-08T08:12:56-05:00Lt Col Jim Coe6562033<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Start now talking with your ROTC instructor about this. There may be multiple Advanced Camp Dates available. Many of the Cadets from my ROTC Det went to a different Summer Training than I attended. Things probably changed several times over the last 5 decades but it’s a good start to let your instructor know <br /><br />BTW commissioning will probably eliminate the opportunity to be a frontline firefighter in the ArNG. You’ll be assigned to an officer leadership and management position no matter if you’re active or reserve component. I greatly appreciate your willingness to train as a firefighter. It should lead to a rewarding life of service to your community. It should fit in with your service in the Army Reserve or National Guard.Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Dec 8 at 2020 9:21 AM2020-12-08T09:21:58-05:002020-12-08T09:21:58-05:00Alec Roman6562160<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am not sure what the situation will be with covid however normally there are multiple regiments for throughout the summer. I was told that they normally try and put west coast cadets in the later regiments due to when their schools begin classes. However, I would talk to your cadre now and express when you would like to go. Since fire academy isn't something through USACC I am not sure the likelihood of them making accommodations but I don't see it being difficult. I was selected to intern the Army Cyber Institute at West Point and do CTLT at Ft. Jackson and they gave me a 1st reg slot so that I could attend both of those for the second half of my summer. So it is certainly possible and not unusual. Good luck!Response by Alec Roman made Dec 8 at 2020 10:09 AM2020-12-08T10:09:18-05:002020-12-08T10:09:18-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member6562631<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I shifted my AC Regiment from 4 to 10 so I could go at the end of the summer because my unit wanted me to go to annual training. Scheduling to a later regiment seems more likely than an earlier regiment depending on how much of a notice you give. You could also do advanced camp after your MS IV year and commission at the end. It'll just push your date of rank a few months to the right. Or you could see if the fire academy dates are flexible. Lots of choices, just make sure you're communicating early so you give all these groups as much time as possible since you're the one that needs the accommodation.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2020 12:24 PM2020-12-08T12:24:27-05:002020-12-08T12:24:27-05:00SCPO Private RallyPoint Member6562951<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My advice to you is to make your full-time firefighter chosen civilian career goal your priority. You have been accepted to the fire academy which is only open every couple of years. Don't pass this chance up as you may not be offered a slot again in the future. The National Guard or reserve is a part-time job. There's no ROTC scholarship involved, correct? Worst case scenario is that you don't fulfill commissioning requirements now. You can try another path to commission (if you still want to) after you complete the fire academy, complete your probationary employment period and you're secure in the firefighting position. I wish you the best whatever path you take.Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2020 2:45 PM2020-12-08T14:45:41-05:002020-12-08T14:45:41-05:00CPT Brad Wilson6564189<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Check with your ROTC Cadre you may be able to go to Advanced Camp after your MS IV year and commission when you complete it. When I went to Advanced Camp there were close to 20 maybe more cadets that went there after they graduated from college and completed their MS IV year. As soon as they graduated from Advanced Camp they changed into their Class A’s and had their commissioning ceremony. They all were in a similar situation to you and had classes or other training related to their degrees that conflicted with their original Advanced Camp dates.Response by CPT Brad Wilson made Dec 8 at 2020 11:00 PM2020-12-08T23:00:04-05:002020-12-08T23:00:04-05:001LT Private RallyPoint Member6565951<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Inquire immediately about an “End of Camp Commission”.Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2020 3:47 PM2020-12-09T15:47:28-05:002020-12-09T15:47:28-05:00COL Jon Thompson6568222<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Talk to your PMS. I would plan on going to Advanced Camp though since that is an ROTC requirements. They do several training cycles at Fort Knox so you may also be able to schedule Advanced Camp where it will not conflict with Fire Academy. Another alternative is you may want to wait for the Fire Academy until you complete your BOLC. Because if you are in the middle of Fire Academy and you get orders for BOLC, you are heading to BOLC.Response by COL Jon Thompson made Dec 10 at 2020 10:14 AM2020-12-10T10:14:07-05:002020-12-10T10:14:07-05:00LTC Michael Hrycak6575038<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Advanced Camp is a prerequisite to completing your MS IV year and commissioning. But, your PMS (Professor of Military Science) may be able to get you a waiver so that you can attend Advanced Camp after graduation and get commissioned there.Response by LTC Michael Hrycak made Dec 12 at 2020 5:30 PM2020-12-12T17:30:25-05:002020-12-12T17:30:25-05:002020-12-08T06:13:57-05:00