What should happen here? Is there a double standard for White House Officials and Military Members?

CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:00:03 -0400

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/14/hero-marine-nailed-for-sending-classified-report-from-personal-email.html

Hero Marine Nailed for Secret Email: What Did He Do That Hillary Didn’t?

Hillary Clinton could still become president after her email scandal, but a decorated Marine is being forced out over one classified report he sent to avert a disaster.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 15 at 2015 8:03 AM

PO1 John Miller — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:03:46 -0400

Of COURSE it's a double standard. Only military members are prosecuted for crimes. Politicians who do the same thing get elected President! Didn't you get that memo CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member?

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Aug 15 at 2015 8:06 AM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:06:56 -0400

As the saying goes, standards are standards....unless you are the one making the rules.....might just be a little of that going on here

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Aug 15 at 2015 8:31 AM

Cpl Jeff N. — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:31:07 -0400

This is the environment this administration has allowed to exist. There are double standards, double speak and all sorts of chicanery going around. If the former Sec of State was thought to have classified (Top Secret) docs on her personal server why isn't the DOJ moving heaven and earth to get to the bottom of it? They know where she is, where the server is, where her devices are etc. The first thing you do when there is a possibility of a breach like this is to protect the information quickly so no further harm is done.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2015 8:43 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:43:53 -0400

A similar post by Rally Point. Maybe more answers.
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/hero-marine-nailed-for-secret-email-what-did-he-do-that-hillary-didn-t

"Hero Marine Nailed for Secret Email: What Did He Do That Hillary Didn’t?" | RallyPoint

From: The Daily Beast No matter how much classified material is found in her personal email server, Hillary Clinton will no doubt continue campaigning to become our next president. Meanwhile, a decorated Marine officer who has deployed four times faces being discharged from the corps he loves because he used his personal email to send a single classified report as an urgent warning when lives were at stake. The stateside message from Marine...

Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Aug 15 at 2015 8:46 AM

Cpl Christopher Bishop — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:46:42 -0400

Some of you might start doing some more Individual Free-Thinking. By pondering what you know, or think you know, and what you have heard...as well as separating that from what you WANT to believe, about REAL POWER.

And I'd suggest starting with considering this: Real Power is largely those in control of energy sources on international levels. These are often the same folks who can buy politicians globally to suit their agendas which include maintaining that power. In America, they buy both Republicans and Democrats, its essentially the same group of them who buy and control both, which also explains why "they" perpetuate the TWO party (illusion) system, because TWO is easier to control than "more than two"...which kinda also explains why any other parties can't even manage to appear on major ballots or debates, as the Reps/Dems seem to keep making up rules that prevent it, leaving some of us wondering what they're so afraid of (of course that's the assumption they are all about Merit and all of that other wholesome goodness we want them to be).

Getting back to the OP Topic, I'm sure there are some folks who are trying to get Hillary Clinton hung for her alleged crimes before she can get herself into the White House, because those things will likely be swept under the rug afterwards.

I don't know what disgusts me more....the attempt to use media to distract Americans with the death of Cecil the Lion, from the deaths of Benghazi Marines or our fallen brothers in Chattanooga, TN .... or that how well those attempted distractions actually work to the general population.

I'm sure some folks would go to the extent to aid and abet an EMP or H-EMP bomb being set off on US Soil in attempt to ensure evidence against Mrs. Clinton never surfaces. Meanwhile, we hear we are funding and training ISIS. What is FedGov doing to remedy how weak, old, and frail our Power Grid is? (Crickets eeep eeep eeep).

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 15 at 2015 8:49 AM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:49:04 -0400

Yes there is. A military member would have had at least an article 32 hearingbatvthis point and been removed from access to classified info.

Response by CH (MAJ) Thomas Conner made Aug 15 at 2015 9:01 AM

CH (MAJ) Thomas Conner — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:11 -0400

Well, obviously you cannot compare a lowly Marine to the great and mighty Hillary. I mean, after all she is a Clinton, which makes her a legend (in her own mind at least)! Now if the Marine was the son of a politician, then it would be okay! All he would need would be his personal server. Of course the personal server would need to be the type Hillbilly Hillary uses, somehow emails just mysteriously disappear, making it okay! Now for me, the real question becomes how long are the American people going to tolerate the double standards between the "rulers" and the common folk???

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2015 9:11 AM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:11:34 -0400

Most politicians believe they're above the law. They have a false believe they were chosen to lead us. If they actually stuck to their job description and started to do what was right for their country things like this wouldn't be happening. All they have shown so far is that they are greedy and love to be in a position of power. Most of them are millionaires anyways.

This article for example, all he was trying to do was save the lives of good marines. But instead they are trying to make an example out of him.

This starts at the top and it will not end until we as a country can come together and vote them all out. I would have done the same thing if I was him.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Aug 15 at 2015 9:52 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:52:47 -0400

Double standards is an inaccurate label. It's hard to accuse the White House of having double standards when the UCMJ is full of them.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Aug 15 at 2015 11:00 AM

Sgt Tom Cunnally — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:00:20 -0400

The FBI could turn over the results of their email investigation to AG Loretta Lynch. I have to believe Ms Lynch will not prosecute Hillary Clinton. But yet General Petraeus was prosecuted for a similar security offense. I would not be surprised to see the AG be instructed by the White House to not complete her investigation of Hillary Clinton's emails until after the Presidential elections in 2016. But we all know what happened to General Petraeus & a decorated Marine ..

Response by Sgt Mitchell Sporar made Aug 15 at 2015 11:11 AM

Sgt Mitchell Sporar — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:11:01 -0400

Hate to say it CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member .. but this issue of the "double standard" has existed for decades. I can attest to the doible standard going all the way back to when i was enlisted. And anytime i asked the question .. my Gunny always gave me a very military-oriented response: "SIYOP" .. Stay In Your Own Paygrade.

SMH. Hate to say it .. but .. the double standards have always been there between the "haves" and "have nots". Between those who make the rules and those charged with following the rules.

You know the old saying I'm sure .. "do as i say, not as i do".

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 15 at 2015 12:53 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:53:44 -0400

Thanks for the reminder

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 15 at 2015 3:00 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:00:53 -0400

Let's ask Gen Petraeus. This administration has torpedoed more military careers than I can recall.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2015 3:15 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:15:43 -0400

All I can say is that if anyone found the things I have seen shown from Hillary's email in my home, I would be posting from a jail cell and the key would be somewhere at the bottom of an ocean.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 15 at 2015 3:38 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:38:45 -0400

Trump needs to be Trump. There will never be another Ronald Reagan

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 15 at 2015 3:44 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:44:55 -0400

It's the cost that bothers me. Continual changes ultimately cost he tax payers

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 15 at 2015 3:50 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:50:06 -0400

The press will protect her. The fact is anyone in the military would have had at least an article 32 hearing by now

Response by Sgt Joseph Brent Montgomery made Aug 15 at 2015 9:13 PM

Sgt Joseph Brent Montgomery — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:13:28 -0400

Hillary should burn.

Response by Cpl Kevin Torzala made Aug 15 at 2015 10:16 PM

Cpl Kevin Torzala — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:16:38 -0400

She's slated to be the first female president. We can't hold her to the same standard; that's sexist.
(Heavy Sarcasm)

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Aug 16 at 2015 8:36 AM

Capt Jeff S. — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:36:28 -0400

Well, there is a double standard in place and we only have ourselves to blame for allowing this problem to fester. The people we elect hold themselves to the lowest of ethical standards and we accept that. We have come to expect politicians to lie and cheat and all those things we hang members of the military for. I think it's sad that those who are in charge of the military don't hold themselves to the same or higher standards of conduct. This is not something you should have to put into law. One would naturally expect leaders to lead by their example.

Bill Clinton was a lying cheat. He smoked but didn't inhale. He didn't have sex with "that woman!" He perjured himself under oath, was impeached, and kept his job. Most of the public STILL sees him as one of the greatest Presidents in modern times (SMH). His wife is tailor made for him and her lack of ethics goes all the way back to when she was fired from the Watergate committee for withholding evidence and other ethical violations. I have a feeling that she was simply being herself and this was not new behavior for her... and if history can tell us anything, it's that she doesn't learn from her mistakes. What does it matter? Right?!! And then there's Carlos Danger. What can you say about his sexting? The good news is that justice was served. He's gone and he now has his own business helping others with their PR disasters and his services don't come cheap... @@

We need leaders that aren't wrapped up in political correctness. We need leaders who hold themselves to high standards. We need leaders that set the bar high for those in their employ and LEAD by their own personal example.

Frankly, in a country of 330,000,000+ individuals, I find it amusing that we simply have a hard time finding them. And that is our fault. The people that would shine in political office avoid it because they value their families and their privacy and don't want to be fillet'd open for public inspection. They don't want to be subject to the burn of the media spotlight. We as consumers crave bad stories. And our tabloid media (which now includes the lamestream press) sells this country out for a juicy story. What we need is REAL Hope and Change... The kind that starts at the ballot box when we fire most every incumbent that is responsible for the mishandling of our country's finances and we investigate and convict them for corruption and for those guilty of it -- TREASON! << That is, if we still elect our candidates and our elections aren't decided for us beforehand.

Response by Sgt Billy Nitsch made Aug 16 at 2015 9:20 AM

Sgt Billy Nitsch — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:20:15 -0400

Hillary should be held to the same standards period. Meanwhile it's ok for her and Obama to rack up accounts of treason and they still aren't being held accountable.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Aug 16 at 2015 11:28 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 23:28:47 -0400

Yep...you betcha! The people in Washington practically get away with murder...but anyone else, even Military members get the book thrown at them.

Response by Sgt Robert Katelhut made Aug 17 at 2015 5:12 PM

Sgt Robert Katelhut — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:12:44 -0400

Jail. Prevention of public office.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 17 at 2015 11:51 PM

COL Charles Williams — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:01 -0400

CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member Yes... we are responsible and accountable, and they are not.

Response by GySgt Moses Lozano made Sep 4 at 2015 10:41 PM

GySgt Moses Lozano — Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:41:15 -0400

Typical POS politicians who act a lot like some miiltary officers who think they are above the rules but are quick to nail everyone else for similar mistakes!