What's your take on the rising violence in the U.S.?

2015-02-19T09:26:05-05:00

The irony of a Democrat Congressman predicting militancy by illegal aliens in the US during the much hyped White House Summit on Violent Extremism. Granted the congressman is specifically pointing to votes, voting, and voter registration, but words have meaning, and I'm sure he chose his words purposefully. Why say "militancy" instead of "activity" or "activism?"

Our country is accepting thousands of criminals from Latin America into our cities and neighborhoods continuing their criminal ways. Our own citizens riot at any real or perceived slight, are provoked to violence by so-called civil rights leaders, and have their actions legitimized in the media. Groups like New Black Panther openly advocate killing people they don't like. Our government seems not only to be unwilling to prosecute these criminals, but even condone and encourage it by either their inaction or by publicly taking their side.

The number of people purchasing firearms has skyrocketed, as has the demand for concealed carry licenses. People are arming themselves where they legally can. Are we, as a society, prepared to deal with groups of people who think that violence is the answer to getting their way? How do we hold our government accountable? Is the best we can do to simply take measures to protect ourselves and our family while we watch these groups run amok? I know I've posed a lot of questions, but I was hoping to start some discussion.

Luis Gutierrez Predicts Unprecedented 'Militancy' Among Immigrants After Amnesty Injunction -...

On Wednesday, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) predicted that a federal judge's injunction against President Barack Obama's temporary amnesty program will activate an unprecedented "militancy" in the immigrant community that will drive them to the polls against Republicans.

Response by SGT James Murphy made Feb 19 at 2015 4:37 PM

2015-02-19T16:37:00-05:00

Much of the rising violence will go away once we get a conservative candidate in the White House whom is willing to clean out all the Socialists working the many agencies set up by the Obama administration. There are many non-elected positions that are the root cause of trouble . Eric Holder comes to mind as the first example. There are unfortunately many many more! From the VA to the Department of Education to the IRS... There needs to be a Major House Cleaning and neither political party has the will to do so. We need to elect representatives whom are truely conservative and if that means we all have to Write-In candidates for certain public office then so-be-it. However that takes a real organized Effort. In Wisconsin We're starting here: http://cutwi.com/pdf/Wisconsin%20Counties%20Project.pdf
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Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Feb 20 at 2015 8:48 AM

2015-02-20T08:48:40-05:00

Income Inequality...
http://financesonline.com/how-income-inequality-affects-crime-rates/

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Feb 20 at 2015 9:45 AM

2015-02-20T09:45:19-05:00

Giving amnesty to so many illegal immigrants probably wasn't the best idea. We have a legal system in place to grant citizenships for a reason. Handing them out is just going to cause problems in the long run. I love hearing people try to use the excuse, "Well we came over seas from other countries and took up residency so we are immigrants too." While this is a true statement to an extent what people that use the argument don't think about or at least pretend not to think about is the fact that the Native American tribes didn't exactly have a government or legal system in place to grant us citizenship. We set it up ourselves to protect the country. We need to continue to enforce our laws because the more we brush them to the side the more problems we are going to have.

Now obviously the violence in country isn't exclusive to foreign individuals as many natural born citizens commit violent acts as well. In many cases it is seems like it is related to mental related problems which really can't be helped other than by trying to better secure and control weapons sales throughout the U.S. Please don't get me wrong on this subject either, I like my firearms. I definitely wouldn't disagree with legislation for better back ground checks and things when it comes to acquiring them however. There is certain steps that can be taken to ensure that those that shouldn't have firearms don't while still protecting the rights of our citizens. This of course would never eradicate violent crimes but it would at least lessen the impact to an extent.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Feb 20 at 2015 10:22 AM

2015-02-20T10:22:31-05:00

What should we expect when the President of the United States and the Attorney General violate the law and refuse to enforce the laws?

Encouraging illegal immigration is just another liberal ideology that is causing the ruination of our country. It undermines the rule of law.

Our country is led by the most corrupt, racist, immoral and divisive administration in our history.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Feb 20 at 2015 10:54 AM

2015-02-20T10:54:42-05:00

There is no rising violence in the US. There is only rising media coverage of violence when it occurs. Violence has actually been on a sharp down turn all over the globe for decades. Sadly though, sensationalism sells commercial time, so the media will latch on to the smallest thing, overhype it to death, and exxagerate it until it becomes a sensational ad space seller.

There is however, rising peace all over the globe if you examine it from a historical perspective, but peace doesn't sell ad space for gold sellers and fallout shelter manufacturers.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2015 11:15 AM

2015-02-20T11:15:11-05:00

The problem with an issue that is this large is that it is way to complex for a single answer fix. If there was every man, woman and child in America would stand behind it. The problem is the creation of this culture (that is the key word) varies based on each individual, their life experiences and their means of dealing with those situations. You are absolutly correct that, we have become an increasingly violent country as a whole. I personally believe that is starts with this truly American idea of equality. Now don't get me wrong I am not advocating that others should be treated different based on color, creed, religion or any of those things. But each individual being judged an treated consimate to their actions and/or performance. But, with the created culture of equality everyone believes they are entitled to live a "comfortable" lifestyle. Which is not the case. But, bigger than that what it does is create excuses. She the oppertunity for equality while harder for some to achieve is available to all. But you have to work for it, but for those that choose the easier route it also comes with a ready made excuse. Truth be told when you fail the excuses you can find to lay blame on someone or something other than oneself are very easy to buy into. Accepting your failures are hard. Simply put there is no single answer easy fix. I also agree that the congressman chose his words purposefully. Once again that is the culture that we have created. We have taught them that many of our laws are really just recommendations. Those that chose to come in illegally had some expectation that if caught we would enforce immigration laws, but then we didn't. Then you see law enforcement being told to stand down on certin illegal activities. Over time it has blurred the lines on law and lawlessness. I see what the congressman did as a 2 part action. First I believe it was a call to arms to all those that agree with him, planting the seed. Second, most Americans are very caring and will back down to a group committed to their cause. So, I believe this plays the needed role of fear baiting to scare the American population. I personally am a Concealed Carry holder. There have just been to many treats to not be at a minimum prepared for what may come. When someone says they want to hurt me or my family I take them at their word and prepare for when or if they might attempt to do so. I highly recommend that other do the same.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Feb 20 at 2015 11:18 AM

2015-02-20T11:18:46-05:00

Violence is actually decreasing. Maybe the 24 hour news cycle is spinning up increased coverage of violence/potential violence that does happen.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final

Violent Crime

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2015 11:44 AM

2015-02-20T11:44:20-05:00

I think it's more of a perception of the rise of violence due to media coverage. The FBI statistics show the opposite trend:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/violentcrimemain_final

Violent Crime

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2015 2:01 PM

2015-02-20T14:01:05-05:00

First, I don't see a rise in violence... I see an escalation of rhetoric. What does a "militancy" that drives people to the polls, have to do with violence?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2015 2:08 PM

2015-02-20T14:08:56-05:00

Violence is declining.

Response by SSgt Randy Saulsberry made Feb 21 at 2015 11:33 AM

2015-02-21T11:33:55-05:00

research can save your life. so how was the conclusion made that violence is rising. because i know journalists and news organizations like FOX say it all the time. but prove that. because if you research it you will know that the DOJ and the FBI who are the two main organizations that track this stuff for years now they have been reporting that violoent crime has been going down. shouldnt be so quick to judgement especially when you are basing your actions solely off of news reports. because you will find that if you did just a little research that the news is not giving you the facts.

ITS OK TO THINK

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Feb 24 at 2015 3:32 PM

2015-02-24T15:32:06-05:00

Its the same as it ever was, violence in the 1800s over slavery led to war, then after with the train strikes that set fire to a chicago train yard. We had violence in the civil rights and womens rights movement.

Response by MAJ Terry LaFrance made Feb 24 at 2015 8:40 PM

2015-02-24T20:40:08-05:00

If you look at crime stats violence is trending down, not rising.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Aug 12 at 2015 9:50 AM

2015-08-12T09:50:02-04:00

The "people" are fed up, especially the downtrodden middle class. This is where 90% of American Men are underemployed. Maybe working at Walmart instead of their old drafting job that was outsourced to China or Japan. These men could support their families in the past and pay off all bills but now, money is tight. This causes contention at home, meaning arguments between men & women. (Husbands & Wives)

The Black community is on a rampage with their new slogan "Black Lives Matter". They do of course but nobody is denying that. But nationwide the entire race is caught up in rallies and demonstrations.

Add up the two factors and expect to see rioting in the streets, outside of Ferguson, St. Louis and Baltimore. If not for these reasons then others, expect all of the "NFL cities" to experience white and black rioting.

What's worse is that Obama continues to fan the flames on national TV. I don't recall ever seeing any President on TV like Obama. He is pissing on our constitution, committing treason weekly and stating what he wants us to think on certain issues. The mere fact that he has almost 1.5 years left in office scares me. He governs the U.S. with memo's, Executive actions and both in order to bypass Congress. They may as well all come home. Even with SCOTUS ruling against his amnesty practices the past 2 days we are seeing hordes of undocumented people crossing our southern borders in record numbers.

All of these immigrants know how to file for food stamps, welfare and many other programs so we know they never intended to look for work. It's you and me paying those bills.

End of Rant:

Rick

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 12 at 2015 9:54 AM

2015-08-12T09:54:47-04:00

Our country has lost its soul and moral compass. To many people are out for themselves and not looking out for the good of their neighbors

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 13 at 2015 1:53 PM

2015-08-13T13:53:16-04:00

The media is not an arm of truth as it distorts reality to the dismay of the country.