What is your opinion on Donald Trump agreeing to cease all US/ROK joint training exercises?

2018-06-14T04:33:48-04:00

I want honest opinions about President Trump's recent promises to Kim Jong Un that we would cease all US/ROK joint training and statement to the American people that we will save a lot of money by not having bombers fly from Guam to the Korean Peninsula for training missions. Is that the sort of thing you expect from a strong POTUS?

Response by Maj John Bell made Jun 14 at 2018 8:15 AM

2018-06-14T08:15:25-04:00

Is that what was promised? Or is that the characterization of journalists? I don't know enough details "from the horses mouth" to make a valid judgment, nor do I think anyone else on RP knows. If you have a source that provides details... please let me know and I'll be glad to give you an honest answer.

Update: This is the most detailed account of the agreement between President Trump and Chairman Kim I have found. Source CBS News June 12, 2018, 12:15 PM

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.–DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

2.The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

3.Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

4.The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

What is your source for "...we would cease all US/ROK joint training and statement to the American people that we will save a lot of money by not having bombers fly from Guam to the Korean Peninsula for training missions."?

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2018 8:42 PM

2018-06-27T20:42:21-04:00

As compared to what? Exchanging terrorist and pallets of money? Not really concerned with the how, I'm concerned with the what...what will be the end result. Time will tell.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jun 27 at 2018 8:43 PM

2018-06-27T20:43:14-04:00

Let's see. We stopped a joint military exercise and what did we get in return: A promise to destroy nuclear production and testing facilities (and we've seen evidence of some compliance in the destruction of at least one testing facility); promise to normalize North/South Korea relations (and we've seen compliance in leaders from both nations meeting to arrange family reunions across the DMZ); and promises of repatriation of remains of American GI's killed in the Korean War (and we've seen compliance in the return of the first 100 caskets). Honestly, what has any other American leader done in this regard since 1952 when the cease fire went into effect? Worse than nothing. President Clinton gave the North Koreans nuclear reactors that greatly assisted their development of nuclear weapons. Honestly, I don't know about "strong" but effective suits me just fine.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 27 at 2018 9:00 PM

2018-06-27T21:00:33-04:00

The only definitive thing we got from N Korea were bodies from the Korean War. The news states a N Korean nuclear site is still being improved.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jun 28 at 2018 10:21 AM

2018-06-28T10:21:32-04:00

I think it would be very foolish to believe the dictator Kim will actually do what Trump is claiming.

Kim is once again playing Trump.

Response by MAJ James Woods made Jun 28 at 2018 1:01 PM

2018-06-28T13:01:08-04:00

Nope. Joint military exercises were a bargaining chip for future negotiations. All we have now are the sanctions.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 28 at 2018 11:36 PM

2018-06-28T23:36:39-04:00

From one Marine who had trained with the ROK Marines on every deployment to South Korea since 1976, I for one wouldn’t bet on anything that has been said, promise or done. My dad fought in the Korean Conflict. He’s still alive and well at the young age of 88. If anything we should be asking the folks that fought their and their surviving families. I don’t trust any politicians. Look where we are 65 years later? Any thoughts?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2018 10:31 PM

2018-06-29T22:31:48-04:00

People need to think about this for a minute.

We’ve been doing joint exercises with South Korea for how many decades? If the troops there don’t know how to do it by now, wtf. And if North Korea starts acting up again, we can always start up exercises and war games again.

Additionally, what has upholding the status quo for all these decades gotten us? A third generation dictator on the cusp of nuclear weapons with global strike capability.

Maybe it’s time for a change in how we do things. Now hypothetically, 4 months from now, and there have been no recent US/ROK war games, and North Korea pulls a Pearl Harbor on the South. I have a hunch that despite our lack of recent joint war games, South Korea and the United States will know how to react accordingly.

Call me cynical but it’s also possible that some people are so up in arms about cancelling the exercises only because they have vested interests in upholding the status quo. Exercises tend justify budgets, justify purposes, justify roles, justify existences, justify personal egos, etc.

1SG Javier "Elvis" Martinez - thoughts?

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Jun 30 at 2018 12:10 PM

2018-06-30T12:10:25-04:00

I was a planner and evaluator for joint and combined exercises in ROK. I focused on the logistics and transportation side of the exercise, but sat in all of the plenary meetings with the ROK military planning the entire spring and fall exercises.

This was an easy give away because the exercises won't cease until this fall. Current exercises will continue. Also the exercises will restart if DPRK doesn't move ahead with its promise to "denuclearize". The money saved won't really be a significant percent of the DOD budget, but may be a significant percent of the Joint and Service Exercise Budgets. It's important to note that local training of US forces both alone and with their ROK counterparts has not been terminated. In many cases it's this tactical unit level training that builds the skills and respect that holds the alliance together.

Response by MAJ David Atkinson made Aug 23 at 2018 11:14 PM

2018-08-23T23:14:00-04:00

Yes

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Aug 24 at 2018 10:36 AM

2018-08-24T10:36:34-04:00

Its more like he canceled ONE such exercise than all future exercises. Sanctions remain in place and tougher sanctions will follow as No Ko fails to comply. I have faith in Pompeo and Bolton and especially Mattis. Giving up his nuclear weapons will be difficult for Kim as he wants to stay in power while bringing North Korea into the modern age. His generals and family may be urging him to keep his nuclear capability and it will be interesting to find out who gets whacked in the years to come.

Response by SSG Dave Mathews made Aug 24 at 2018 12:51 PM

2018-08-24T12:51:24-04:00

As an NCO I don't get involved in politics. It's not my place to second guess the Commander-in-Chief. That being said, you have to spend a little money to make money! I think that is what the president is doing.

Response by CPT Clark Will made Aug 26 at 2018 11:18 PM

2018-08-26T23:18:38-04:00

Absolutely. Compare him to every other POTUS since Truman. All others 0, President Trump, at least 7 (touchdown!)

Response by PO1 Don Gulizia made Sep 4 at 2018 9:52 AM

2018-09-04T09:52:02-04:00

SGT Mary Martel I can't respond to your question under Shirley's post because she likes to call names and then block people so they can't respond. My point is that I don't think Un is some sort of "master manipulator"...that's just silly. It's been about 3 months since this post and while there isn't concrete milestones completed on the Korean peace process, there have been talks...which is a hell of a lot more than any other administrations over the past 60+ years.

Response by SPC Craig Miller made Sep 4 at 2018 8:24 PM

2018-09-04T20:24:12-04:00

I will stay behind my Commander in Chief.

Response by SSG J F Texas made Sep 8 at 2018 5:11 PM

2018-09-08T17:11:09-04:00

Is it that difficult to schedule exercises with ROK? If we are not seeing the progress desired, which I don't think we are, use some of that money we've saved and put on big fire show.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Sep 10 at 2018 1:21 PM

2018-09-10T13:21:29-04:00

Of course not, strong presidents sign armistices, let a Navy ship get taken with crews, sign agreements that support the various regimes for decades, not to mention ignoring the ballistic missile and nuclear warhead development over the past 50+ years.

Response by CW3 Dick McManus made Sep 21 at 2018 2:52 PM

2018-09-21T14:52:52-04:00

The Trumpster is a dangerous lying psycho. Where is the questioning regarding 9/11 here? Tell me how the terrorist knew that all the war games would be on-going prior to and during 9/11? The four Air Force exercises wherein false radar blips were inserted onto FAA and NORAD radar scopes? How
did the terrorists know the best places was in the USA to turn off the transponders so radars could not see them and/or have a great deal of difficulty seeing them on radar scopes without transponders sending signals? How did they know that there were only a few US Air Force fighter jets ready to intercept a hijacked airplane in the northeast US States US?

Why were the war game, radar blips still being injected onto FAA and NORAD radar screens until at least 0930 and 1012 hours yet the second airplane crashed into the Twin Tower at 0903 hours. These US Air Force war games made it appear there were 22 hijackings on-going?

Tell my why the NORAD or FAA was tacking American Airlines 11 they believed was still in the air and an in-progress of hijacking, yet it had already crashed into the Twin Tower 08:46 AM. Why did the US Air Force Generals did not tell the 9/11 Commission about all this?

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At the moment of the Twin Towers and WTC7 collapsed seismic waves were generated.

The degree that low frequencies are associated with an energy (magnitude) that is comparable to a seismic event, these waves undeniably have an explosive origin.

The impacts of the airplanes into the Twin Towers would not have generated large enough seismic waves to be recorded 34 km away.

Debris that fell onto the ground from the Twin Towers would not have generated large enough seismic waves to be recorded 34 km away.

The low frequencies could not have been provoked other than by explosions.

An explosion at the base of WTC1 (the north Tower and the first one hit by an airplane) was heard and felt by witness William Rodriquez and he said some seconds later he heard the airplane crash that occurred many stories in the Tower. Rodriquez and several other co-workers were in a basement level of the North Tower and below them in a lower basement level, a massive explosion happened pushing the floor they were standing on upward. Some co-workers working in lower basement levels were injured and/or badly burned as a result.

“And there was a huge explosion at the top of the building. You could hear the difference from the bottom and all the way to the top. The one from the top, which was actually seconds after, was very far away. The one in the basement was pretty loud and you felt your actual feet moving with the floor. There was a tremor through the walls, that the walls cracked and the false ceiling totally collapsed.” https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/explosions-before-plane-impact-the-911-account-of-william-rodriguez/

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Rousseau’s analysis corroborate William Rodriquez witness statement. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_160.htm

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Response by PO1 Robert George made Sep 23 at 2018 10:49 PM

2018-09-23T22:49:14-04:00

Wrong move. Kim is a master at playing Presidents for what he really wants.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 4:57 PM

2018-09-24T16:57:27-04:00

Good question CPT George Langley, I don’t know about the rest of you people but I’ve been there in South Korea and on the DMZ in the early 70’s and 80’s. In my opinion if you’ve worked hand in hand with the South Korean Army or their Marines like I did you come away with the idea that the Korean Conflict didn’t end in September of 1953 and there still fighting. Just because one World Leader says something or promises to do something for another World Leader doesn’t mean crap to me. In my professional opinion everything and everyone is not fine. I wouldn’t be worried about North and South Korea because there’s not a damn thing I can do about it. I’m more concerned on the home front and our County being divided by all the politicians to include the POTUS. By the way my father who served in the Korean Conflict with the Army would differ with all of our opinions. As a two war Combat Veteran he definitely believe all hell will break loose again.

Response by SSG Benjamin Collins made Sep 26 at 2018 12:22 PM

2018-09-26T12:22:12-04:00

Our military need to continue training with the ROK to show North Korea that South Korea will always have our support.

Response by SSG Benjamin Collins made Sep 26 at 2018 12:25 PM

2018-09-26T12:25:38-04:00

And trump has been living long enough to know that the North Korea will never stop there nuclear program. They been playing this game for decades.