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I have seen this often. Personally I don't think there is a problem with the soldiers
per se; the problem lies in how today's generation is raised. When I was younger if I back talked I got smacked in the face, no questions asked no CPS involvement. While some people today might see this as abuse it made me into a man that respects himself first and others. Today's "time-out" way of raising kids is just creating a society where young individuals have no respect for a lot if things because there were no real consequences for their bad behavior as they were growing up and these same individuals are the ones joining our ranks.

The Army doesn't change you, it only enhances what you already have if you are a "go getter" it is going to show, the same if you are a "douche" (pardon the expression) since a human is the one wearing the uniform it doesn't really matter what the Army is trying to do your values are your own and unless you as an individual recognize there is a problem in the way you behave nothing is going to change.

I'm always willing to work with soldiers that show promise sometimes these soldiers "the ones with the broken wings" as I like to call them fly the highest when you invest time in them but sadly some others are just  not meant to be in the Army and in my opinion if you are one of the soldiers that are just in the Army to earn a paycheck and produce carbon dioxide then we don't need you.
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LT Jessica Kellogg
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Unfortunately, I believe this article and discussion may just play into what she wanted. 
She wanted attention (otherwise she wouldn't have posted anything) and now she's getting it. 

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I think the fact she posted it was a cry to get attention number one so mission accomplished, she thought no one could find her yet AKO has a directory which is easy to type her last name and contact her command.  Her pity me attitude now is just a cover because she has all eyes on her disrespect to our nations colors. She should be discharged dishonorably w/o question because the thirty seconds it takes to show respect to our colors she couldn't show so show her the door in a quick fashion.  
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1SG Alan Bailey
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<p>I have read alot of post blaming Drill Sergeants and AIT platoon sergeants, I was a Drill Sergeant for 3 years, and it does not matter how much you preach things how much extra corrective training you give, you cannot get every bad weed out or enforce standards that should have been part of Home training. I agree to an extent that as NCO we are responsible for our Soldiers, but we cannot be with them 24 hours a day and we all want to be adults. </p><p>Now, as a parent if we do not teach our kids right and wrong we have failed them before they get out on there own. Some good Home Training goes a long way!&nbsp;</p>
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And we have debated the merits of 18-20 year olds drinking and seeing this kind of behavior kind of suggests something totally amiss.   You can make a point but it is up to the individual to comply.


The issue is blatant disrespect and a mocking of traditions.  So that punishment can happen and if NOT contrite,  then she is outta there.   She did this as we can see.

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This lack of respect for the uniform, country, and sacrifices made by all our brothers and sisters in the armed forces in service to our country disturbs me.

 

My generation somehow developed this false sense of entitlement. Breaks my heart.

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Thank you SPC Brandon E.  What you said is discouraging and because discipline is dictated by people outside the chain of command we have this kind of hubris.  To acknowledge she knew what she did and than bragged about it.  Why?   LOL
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This isnt the first time something like this has happen in the history of America.  I dont understand how a soldier can be so stupid, to post mess like that on the internet.

 

Hid in a car to not be seen

Posted it online for the world to see???

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SSG V. Michelle Woods
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I believe "soldiers these days" are a reflection of their leadership so we should turn that finger right back around and point it at ourselves. 

She was wrong for avoiding to salute and she was wrong for posting about it. Stupid mistake made by a stupid private. Nothing more. Correct and CM.

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SGM Matthew Quick
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Where's the personal responsibility? &nbsp;It's sad when these things happen, it's the leaders fault.<br><br>When a kid gets a DUI...leaders fault?<br><br>When a rape occurs...leaders fault?<br><br>Personal responsibility...adults making adult decisions; they have to deal with the consequences.
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SSG V. Michelle Woods
SSG V. Michelle Woods
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I agree to an extent MSG Quick but I also believe attitude is a reflection of leadership. I constantly hear leaders criticize however I rarely hear them take any kind of responsibility themselves. 
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SSG Robert Burns
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I have to agree with you Woods.  Because of my leadership when i was a PVT, I was groomed to have GREAT respect for the flag.  I would say the my leadership has a great deal of responsibility and influence when it comes to my compass today.  It was instilled in me.  Obviously it wasn't instilled in her or those other clowns.
I say leadership has a great deal to do with it.
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Not saying it's right, but she took wrong to another level of wrong.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
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The link I placed here is another area I found the same information and it says this:

(NCOs, Please remind your Soldiers about the proper use of Social media both in and out of uniform. Making
derogatory comments and posting pictures that may offend others can come back to haunt them.)


Personally: I can see that there is a lack of understanding on how information is being used to these SM. I don't think they are aware of the consequences that follow by advertising these acts. Perhaps they are just young kids, with out experience, but I'm sure that after getting a full awareness package (When there chain of command finds out) they will know better next time.


here's the link I spoke about above: NCO support






http://www.ncosupport.com/military-news/soldier-social-media.html


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CW2 Joseph Evans
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Nothing new under the sun. The difference is that Social Media gets stupidity a larger audience than it ever used too.
The problem here is the attention mongers. As long as we keep publicizing stupid, people will just get stupid for their 5 minutes of fame. So, stop glorifying their shame and a lot of this stuff will go back to dumb just being dumb rather than grandstanding for effect.
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SSG Laureano Pabon
SSG Laureano Pabon
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That's 3 already Chief, one more and will be able to take a trip to Hawaii. :)
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