Posted on Feb 25, 2014
What is wrong with our troops today? What are your thoughts on this problem child?
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I wonder if some volunteer work at some veterans organizations would be benificial as corrective training for this misguided Soldier... It might help show her the error of her ways if she hears first hand from some of the older generations who fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. I bet they have some good guidance on how important our flag really is and what it meant to them when they were Soldiers. I find it extremely humbling to watch the old warriors who can barely walk rise to their feet and salute the colors as they pass.
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That is something I can agree upon CPT J. And those here who thinks she may be redeemable is commendable. By now though she has faced a harsh withering verbal assault by her leaders. That may be speculation but has to be true.
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She's not fit for service! As one Vet said in another group, "If she won't even salute the flag, she most definitely will not put her life on the line for it!"
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This Soldier, among others recently, have brought attention on themselves by their actions. Yes, I'd say at some point in my time served, I have avoided saluting the flag for whatever reasons, but the extent would be not leaving the building until it's over. This Soldier intentionally posted herself for trouble! I do not understand the ideas of some Soldiers thinking that there isn't any reaction for their actions, she addressed the idea that she would be called out on it, thats admitting to fault! How idiotic?! Then to go on and say "idgafffff"? That tells me that you dont care about the uniform you wear, you dont understand the purpose and meaning behind saluting our nations flag, your so incredibly lazy that while those who have been shot at, killed for that flag, you cannot get your lazy self out of your vehicle and render the salute. She needs to be kicked out, it's that simple. If she is retained, she should recieve a severe punishment. Make her an example of upmost disrepect!
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Good thing she is not MY Soldier. I'd have her ass chaptered out fast as thought. A good OTH discharge will fix her butt and possibly deter others.
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1SG Frank Rocha
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you 1SG. In my college days before the Army, I was a tutor to make extra money. One of the students I tutored was a high school kid with a learning disability. Most times it took several attempts, and some inventive instructional methods, to get him to understand and retain the information I was tutoring him on. That young man got his REGULAR high school diploma.
It may take some extra time and effort, but more times than not effective leadership can fix the problem. Investing additional time and effort might be difficult and cumbersome but then again isn't that what we became NCOs for?
It may take some extra time and effort, but more times than not effective leadership can fix the problem. Investing additional time and effort might be difficult and cumbersome but then again isn't that what we became NCOs for?
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1SG Michael Blount
SFC Rocha - At what point do you stop mollycoddling Soldiers, praying like hell they'll do the right thing? You can't be with them 24/7
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1SG Frank Rocha
1SG - there should be no "mollycoddling" as it were, however there should be some effective leadership involved. I will say though that there is a point that is reached that separates a good soldier that just strayed a bit off the path, and a truly sinister soldier with malicious intent. Rules and policy are like locks and chains, they are there to keep honest people honest. the truly sinister will break them regardless of their depth or complexity. I feel that only effective leadership can truly separate a good soldier from a bad one conclusively to the point where we can make a well rounded and fully informed decision regarding the solders future.
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SPC Christopher Smith
To this point I agree with SFC Rocha, 1SG Blount. Stupid can be fixed with a little extra and creative ability. Ignorance (the ability to learn but refusal to do so) that cannot be fixed. I do no think everyone who does something a bit stupid is unfixable.
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