What is the standard for an effective Remedial PT Program?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 06:20:51 -0400

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 6:25 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 06:25:26 -0400

I believe no real standard, but must be lead by someone who excesses the standard. One trained on knowing what limits to push and when to stop. Also includes lifestyle training to include nutrition. That is a good start.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Jul 30 at 2015 7:20 AM

SGT Richard H. — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 07:20:24 -0400

I don't know that I've ever seen an AR that covers remedial PT. Essentially it's just more PT until they've done enough to pass an APFT. If you need something official in writing, there is an appendix that covers remedial PT in FORSCOM 350-6

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 8:37 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 08:37:10 -0400

This is a good question. Too many times I see people just making guys run for remedial PT when half the guys failed push ups. However you cant really standardize a routine I don't think because every situation is different.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jul 30 at 2015 8:38 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 08:38:03 -0400

The Standard is to get troops to pass the APFT. A combination of strength training and endurance/interval running to get soldiers where they need to be is recommended. I've not seen any particular program that is more or less effective than another but in the past we used:

1) several modifications of push ups - partner assisted, wide arm, close arm, etc.
2) sets of crunches, planks and partner assisted sit ups
3) various runs - a day of sprints, a day of slow distance 3+ miles and a day of Indian and individual runs.

Used in combinations, these used to get soldiers on track by working the core areas for each event.

Response by SGT Misty Harris made Jul 30 at 2015 9:03 AM

SGT Misty Harris — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:03:25 -0400

SSG Baker,

I don't believe that there is a "set" standard for remedial PT. I know the Army AR 600-9 covers the Army Body Composition Program (ABCP). If the Soldier should fail to meet standards, the Soldier is then flagged using the DA 268 which could prevent the Soldier from various things such as: being promoted, going to school, get assigned to command, etc. and if satisfactory progress is not made the Soldier could even face not being able to re-enlist. The Soldier must then meet with the training room NCO and sign off on their DA 268 stating they know they don't meet the Army weight standards and will work on a plan to get back to standards. The Soldier will then make an appointment to speak with the Commander through their Platoon SGT and the orderly room. The Commander and Soldier will come up with a reasonable plan to make sure the Soldier can meet realistic goals each month and be able to obtain them over the next six months. Hopefully, this ensures the Soldier is able to pass the next PT test. If the Soldier passes the next PT test and meets weight, the Soldier is then able to have the flag removed, from their record, and is eligible for all entities just like every other Soldier is.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 11:06 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:06:43 -0400

4th IBCT 3ID, Came up with a standard for rehabilitation pt and remedial pt. You were broken down by your injury or pt failure. The main fault of this program was over training. An instructor was in charge of each injury type and pt failure category. They went to a class to get certified. To me passing a pt test is too easy. Push ups, sit ups and run. Whatever you need improvement on then train with weights. Not heavy weights, just more than your currently doing and then slowly increase.

Response by SPC Robert Patrick made Jul 31 at 2015 10:52 AM

SPC Robert Patrick — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:52:57 -0400

SSG Kendrick Baker as an individual who has participated as a young private because of issues with pushups I would say an effect remedial program is one that balances both muscle endurance and cardio. Soldiers still need to maintain in their strong areas while still being aided in improving their weak areas. Keep in mind the ultimate success of the Soldier is on themselves and how much effort they are going to put in to the program and themselves. Nutrition is also important for those who are on the heftier side and are trying build themselves up.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2015 12:47 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Aug 2015 00:47:58 -0400

Look in FM 7-22 under special conditioning programs. You will find what you need.

Response by LCpl Larry Compton made Jun 4 at 2016 8:33 PM

LCpl Larry Compton — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 20:33:28 -0400

Been along time ago but we did 3 mile run- pull ups & sit ups