What holds more weight an E-5 in a E-6 position or a E-5 with more time in grade? Also should the more senior E-5 be in the E-6 position?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:48:19 -0500

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:51 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:51:07 -0500

You can play devil advocate with this question. But I'll go with the E5 who is serving in the E6 position. You can be the senior E5 all you want, but if you're not in the position then that speaks your inability to lead

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:53 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:53:20 -0500

In a broad Soldier A to Soldier B sense, the E-5 with TIG outranks the one in the E-6 slot. If the one in the E-6 slot has been placed in a leadership position over the other, then he is senior. TIG should never be the go to for who deserves a position of authority or a promotion. There are so many people in the military who skate through their career and play the game of just barely meeting requirements, who do not deserve to progress their career. There are also those who do a great job but just don't want the extra responsibility that comes with being promoted.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:56:07 -0500

SGT,

Seniority generally rules the day unless there is a specific reason for the senior E-5 not to hold that spot. It is subjective though and sometimes seniority is overruled. In my experience the senior E-5 holds the vacant E-6 spot and is given a chance to prove he is capable. If he fails to produce then he is replaced by another soldier.

If the senior E-5 wasn't given the E-6 slot I would contact my SL or PSG and kindly ask why seniority was usurped. If they have their ducks in a row there should be a paper trail of some type indicating that you either weren't meeting the standard or the other soldier was superior. Either way, ask them to inform you why.

Response by SSG John McCammon made Feb 9 at 2016 8:57 PM

SSG John McCammon — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:57:23 -0500

Position,but situation dictates. I have seen an E5 in an E7 position in an S shop, inside the shop he is the man. Out side the shop he is held as an E5.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:58 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:58:35 -0500

Depending on the context around why the one with the most TIG is not in the E6 slot. If the e5 in the E6 slot was placed there over the one with more TIG, that speaks ineptitude on the TIG soldier. More or less on his or her ability to lead. If the e5 in the E6 slot got the position before the e5 with the TIG was assigned to the unit, that would be a tricky call. But assuming both e5s were already in the unit, the one with the slot has no "authority". Speaking as "senior" often refers to length in time.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:59 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:59:07 -0500

Competence is my watch word...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 9:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:04:51 -0500

A Sergeant is a Sergeant regardless of the aforementioned statuses. What holds the most weight is what kind of Sergeant you choose to be.
I have seen excellent buck Sergeants appointed to high positions because of their knowledge, maturity, and leadership abilities. I have seen senior Sergeants pushed to the wayside in nominal positions due to the lack of the previous listed qualities.

I know I didn't answer your question, but I provided my opinion on what makes the biggest difference. So I guess, a more able Sergeant is more apt to be assigned to a higher position therefore, the higher appointed Sergeant would garner more respect and "weight".

Response by SSG Billy Falla made Feb 9 at 2016 9:12 PM

SSG Billy Falla — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:12:23 -0500

Obviously the E-5 in the E-6 position. It all depends on the ability to do the job. If I have a E-5 with more time in service but his performance is not up to the task then a junior E-5 will be put in that position if he or she is more proficient.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 9:20 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:20:56 -0500

The E5 with the TIG should be asking himself why he is not in the E6 slot...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 9:23 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:23:10 -0500

The person in the senior position is in charge. It is not always the senior by rank. The command selects the most qualified to fill the senior position.

Response by SSG Lenzie Bailey made Feb 9 at 2016 9:36 PM

SSG Lenzie Bailey — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:36:27 -0500

Apparently the Jr SGT/E5 is the better NCO for the job. I don't think time in grade or service matters when it comes to getting the job done! I was in a similar position as a SGT, where I was put in charge of a squad of 88M's as we were all chosen to field test the FMTV's at Bragg in the mid 90's. I was a 67S Helicopter Mechanic/Crewchief but I had a Sr SGT/E5 88M as my assistant squad leader. At first it was kinda strange telling an NCO almost 3 times my senior to go do anything. But I treated him with the respect I thought he deserved and he did the same for me for the position I was in and we had no problems. And as a side note I would like to give you some advice passed on down to me from one of my old BN CSM's. To address ourselves as paygrade then that is all you are a paygrade! You want to be known as a SGT or even better yet a NCO!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 9:52 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:52:51 -0500

The person who is most qualified should be in the E6 position. Ive seen units who had E5s as PSGs and E6s as their squad leaders.

Response by SSG Daniel Miller made Feb 9 at 2016 9:53 PM

SSG Daniel Miller — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:53:01 -0500

By regulation, the E-5 with more time in grade is superior, but you're dealing with semantics. Time in grade should never determine who is best suited for a position of greater responsibility, your performance should.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 10:27 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:27:41 -0500

That is a good question. Unless the E-5 in the E-6 position is in charge of the other E-5 then I would go with the senior time in grade E-5 holding more weight. Typically order of merit is by senior ranking, more time in grade, if equal time in grade then time in service. Think about it as a war situation the officer is shot, the PLT SGT is shot leaving an E-5 in a higher billet posed against a senior time in grade E-5 now a betting man would go with knowledge and experience over a billet holding position. Example - I had two E-7s in the same platoon. the junior was the PLT SGT, the Senior was the Ammunition expert (each PLT rated a senior ammo inspector) so now one is in charge of people and one is the knowledge base of the job. Which do you do with? nd yes there is a reason the senior was not the PLT SGT, he had already filled that role for a few years.

I can take it a step further - I had a brand new 2LT and a couple of CW2s in my company. Being short handed on officers I made one of the CW2s the Company XO. He was the junior of the two warrant officers, and by rank junior to a 2LT. But either warrant had way more knowledge to help me run a company, (I also wanted the 2LT to have PLT LDR time). Personality of the junior warrant was more of a bull dog. I had a great 1SG but he and I were both fairly mellow and I wanted to offset that with the bull dog. Now the senior CW2 works for a 2-Star staff and the Junior is still the XO. That 2LT is now a 1LT and the Company Commander as I have moved on myself.

There are many reasons a senior E-5 may not be holding the E-6 position so without knowing the story I would go with TIG.

Response by SSG Thomas Gallegos made Feb 9 at 2016 10:30 PM

SSG Thomas Gallegos — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:30:22 -0500

It's obvious to me that the unit feels the SGT with less TIG is more competent to hold the SSG position or the senior ranking E-5 would hold the position. You don't need to respect the person in my opinion but you must respect the position the individual holds.

Response by SGT Jay Ehrenfeld made Feb 9 at 2016 10:55 PM

SGT Jay Ehrenfeld — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:55:35 -0500

E5 time in grade

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 11:14 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:14:42 -0500

I have seen E5 who worked better and knew better then an E6. I have seen E5 and E6 who were great. What makes the difference is the go getter attitude and maturity. The mindset of growing each day.

Response by SSG Brian Lovins made Feb 9 at 2016 11:44 PM

SSG Brian Lovins — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:44:11 -0500

Well to find the answer I turned to Regulation, and the way I processed it was can you rate the other E-5, as an E-6 you would be responsible for rating subordinate NCO's so regardless of the answers here can you rate that other NCO if he has more TIG?? For that you need to refer to AR 623-205 section II rating chain development and maintenance 2-4 a is the paragraph you need to read, generally speaking the answer is going to be NO you can not, but there are exceptions, from reading it I do not think you fall into one of those so regardless of position on paper I would say he is senior.. On a side note I was an NCO on AD and in the NG, regardless of semantics of TIG we always treated each other as equals, because you are.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 12:08 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:08:46 -0500

These are two great questions and I'd like to add a third...just WHERE will this weight be carried, because from where I'm sitting, it doesn't mean Jack Bingo outside of your shop or your section. You could be holding down a 1SG slot back at your shop, but if I see you at the PX and you don't even have the same rocker that I'm wearing, then your little feelings are gonna get hurt if you try to demand that type of respect from me. I'm not trying to be difficult and I think it's great that your shop poses that kind of special trust and confidence in your fidelity and abilities, but riddle me THIS, Batman...if they REALLY had that much faith in you, then why won't they PAY you as such?! I've never seen ANYONE go into the PX or the Class 6 and walk out with ANYTHING that was paid for with a job slot, and not the MONEY that comes from holding that job slot...think about it.

Response by CSM Chris McKeown made Feb 10 at 2016 12:14 AM

CSM Chris McKeown — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:14:25 -0500

Position always trumps rank especially at Company or BN level. Here is a good example: A SP4 was put into the Mess Section NCOIC position over a SGT and SSG in a field Hosp. This SP4 knew field operations inside and out and also knew the logistics to handle large field operations and large patents loads. This SP4 went on to be highly sought after by other BN Commanders and on a norm always held positions way above his pay grade through out his active duty carer.

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Feb 10 at 2016 1:18 AM

Capt Mark Strobl — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:18:47 -0500

When evaluating "weight" of those of equal rank, billet is the trump card.
I'd be asking why that Sgt with more TIG isn't filling the billet.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 6:39 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:39:48 -0500

I think everyone knows that the textbook answer is the correct one in this case. Position over rank. Time in grade is irrelavent. I would even go so far as to say that rank is irrelavent. Sometimes the right man for the job does not have the rank. This is something Special Operations teams tend to do better than anyone. Whomever the best soldier for the job is, (or the SME) is the one leading that particular operation of training.

That being said, when I was a promotable SGT I got loaned to another platoon and placed in a squad ran by a freshly promoted SGT. The PSG asked if I was fine with that since I would be there less than a month. Of course I had no problem with this, and did everything I could to help that young squad leader. The PSG ended up going to the 1SG to fight to keep me, and that SGT and I ended up switching roles when my move became permanent.

I believe I learned as much from that man as he did me. We had an excellent working relationship and developed a great squad.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 8:04 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:04:50 -0500

The E5 that's in the E6 position. If the senior E5 was the man for the job, then he would be in the spot. Seniority does not equal proficiency.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 8:07 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:07:25 -0500

Position will always hold more weight. If two Sergeants are in the same squad the squad leader is overall in charge and responsible for all the actions of the squad including the NCO.
Your second question is trickier. The common answer not looking at anything but time is yes. But positions can be based on rank, experience and several other factors. The flip side of this if the lower TIG sergeant cannot rate the other ones performance due to his seniority.

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Feb 10 at 2016 8:28 AM

SSG Audwin Scott — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:28:39 -0500

I held an E-6 Squad leader position when a E-6 had arrived my 1SG asked me what would I like to do? He offered me the position of being the Training NCO since I was a senior E-5 (P). This actually worked out for my good. I eventually did get promoted to E-6 and being the Training NCOIC was a far greater responsibility then being a squad leader so I won. I said all that to say this the E-5 holding the E-6 position clearly was more responsible and obviously doing a good job in the E-6 position.

Response by SGT William Howell made Feb 10 at 2016 8:40 AM

SGT William Howell — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:40:40 -0500

The E-5 that can lead.

Response by SFC Phillip Wiley made Feb 10 at 2016 8:50 AM

SFC Phillip Wiley — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:50:34 -0500

The first question is very subjective.
Weight in eyes of others or yourself? What holds weight the most is who are the soldiers going to for answers and assistance, who do they count on in the clutch moment, who do they value and respect the opinion from?

As for the second TIG counts sometimes but when it comes to a duty position it is only a partial requirement. See answer to question above that is the one that deserves the opportunity to be in the position. (That does not mean the soldier wants to be in it)

Response by SPC Christopher Morehouse made Feb 10 at 2016 11:50 AM

SPC Christopher Morehouse — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:50:06 -0500

Whoever can do the job best should be in the positions, regardless of time in rank. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work that way with our maze of bureaucratic rules. There is a saying that I think our military needs to embrace a bit more.

"In combat the one in charge is the one with the loudest voice and best plan."

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Feb 10 at 2016 12:04 PM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:04:33 -0500

SGT serving in a SSG position, while it doesn't impact like it may if it were a SSG serving in a SFC or SFC serving in a MSG/1SG position, it shows one's leadership that an individual has the abilities to perform at the next higher level. As far as most senior being in the SSG position, if the junior is more reliable and competent then no, however, the junior can not serve as the Rater of the more senior, that would have to be done by an actual SSG or above.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 12:24 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:24:05 -0500

If you are asking about a career move to an E-6 position, then go for it! Will definitely boost your knowledge and will simply make you better. But if you personallyfeel as though you need to master being an E-5 first because you are newly promoted, then stay put. Nothing wrong with that at all. All depends on your abilities and your willingness to step up to the plate. But personally I would take the opportunity and step up. When I first pinned on E-5 straight to a BN S-2 NCOIC position I went, which was a SSG position and I turned out just fine. And I didn't receive an OIC for two more months. I loved it. Now for as far as a senior E-5 taking the position, that's the logical thing to do. But if the junior E-5 shows much more promise and potential, then I would give the position to him/her instead. We are promoted into higher positions based off of our trustworthiness and potential to take on more responsibility, not how senior we are.

Response by SSG Keith Cashion made Feb 10 at 2016 12:55 PM

SSG Keith Cashion — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:55:59 -0500

Knowledge. Played that game for a lot of years. The key is, that your chain of command sees that you have the knowledge to get the job done and hold the position. I always told my Soldiers, that they didn't want my job, they wanted the job of the guy/gal over me. As I always wanted the job two above me. Know your job, and get to know the jobs above you, but make sure you can still handle the job below you. Nothing worse than a leader telling a Soldier how to complete a task, they don't know how to complete themselves. Ask yourself, if the PLT SGT, Section SGT, Squad Leader disappeared, and the CDR or 1SG came to you and said, I need a status, report or update on this, what would you say? Worst answer, "I don't Know."

Additionally, if a SSG comes in or the other senior E-5 makes cutoff, don't take it as a slap to the ego, if they take over. Let them know you are there to support. Believe it or not, the chain of command will see it and will still use you as a go to guy.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 1:03 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:03:18 -0500

The E-5 in the E-6 position. It shows that his leadership trusts him in his ability to train, mentor, and guide soldiers.

Response by CSM Michael Poll made Feb 10 at 2016 1:04 PM

CSM Michael Poll — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:04:12 -0500

An e-5 in a squad leader position is higher that an E-5 not in position. While the Senior E-5 SHOULD be placed in the position due to TIG, it is the PSG/PL's prerogative to assign the position to the most qualified. The PSG would need to counsel the Senior E-5 as to the reasons why they are not receiving this honor. I hope this makes sense!

Response by SSG James Elmore made Feb 11 at 2016 4:39 AM

SSG James Elmore — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:39:13 -0500

I was only an E5 for 4 months when I was put into an E7 position because the three other E5s (that have been easy fives for 4+ years) didn't want the responsibility of being in charge of 46 other SMs. But then whenever one of them messed up (in regards to the same issue for the fourth time) and it came time for me to counsel them they want to start trying to throw their rank around, I believe if they wanted to pull rank for any reason they should've done it when it was time to take the leadership position in the first place....

So I believe position outweighs TIS, but when it comes time to correct someone they won't see it that way…

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Feb 11 at 2016 10:16 AM

PFC Tuan Trang — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:16:25 -0500

Sgt, i would say an e-5 to e-6 position is weight in more then e-5 with time in grade.

Response by SPC Patrick McCann made Feb 11 at 2016 4:30 PM

SPC Patrick McCann — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 16:30:17 -0500

I was an E-4 SPC, due to college degree, and held 3 NCO positions simultaneously or so says my ARCOMs. I was tested daily and often put in parade rest because I was thought of 1st SGT favorite.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 11 at 2016 4:40 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 16:40:23 -0500

If this is a real situation I would like to know the dynamics of the two.

Response by CPO Donald Crisp made Feb 11 at 2016 6:17 PM

CPO Donald Crisp — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 18:17:08 -0500

Personally, only one thing really matters. Which is most qualified for the job. In the military, doing jobs outside your pay grade is nothing new, both up and down. If the Jr. E-5 is more qualified or shows better judgment and leadership, then the tilt should go their direction. If the Sr. is more qualified.... We all know those who are less qualified that get a position. As bad as that may seem, in my book, you should be helping to train them to become better qualified. Remember, learning and teaching isn't always done by the most senior person in the room, but the most qualified!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2016 7:41 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:41:49 -0500

Position. Perfect example: Division Artillery 1SG with 17 years in outranks a Battery 1SG with 21 years in. "Outside" these positions "General Authority" does. It's not that complicated.

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Feb 12 at 2016 3:33 PM

MAJ Raúl Rovira — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:33:06 -0500

I had E-4s that held more weight than some E-5 and E-6 in the units i served. It is because of their character, values and how hard they work. Rank, time in grade, years of service are just numbers. At the end of the day the senior NCO will make his/her pick.

To answer your second question, I recall my tank platoon sergeant put his loader PFC in charge of his tank crew above the SPC gunner. Why? because of his character. A bit embarrassing for the SPC. he got the point, learned from it and 6 month later my PSG put him back in charge.

At the end of the day, "who do you trust for the job/task?"

Response by SGT Mark Rhodes made Feb 13 at 2016 8:01 AM

SGT Mark Rhodes — Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:01:49 -0500

If the more senior is better qualified this yes then that person should be in the E6 position. I held several E7 positions as an E5 on active duty there was a more senior person but my knowledge help me take over that position quickly. He was not upset that he was a senior to me and he supported me as I were the senior in grade. Take Charge attitudes can take you very far but knowledge is the true power. Rock steady Sergeant

Response by SGT Charles Turner made Feb 23 at 2016 3:45 PM

SGT Charles Turner — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:45:47 -0500

Time and grade will always supercede Position. The one thing is assignment, hence if a E-5 is acting Platoon Sgt., then he was appointed by a officer, which gives him authority only with in his duty discription.

Response by SSG Jay OConnor made Feb 25 at 2016 2:51 PM

SSG Jay OConnor — Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:51:25 -0500

That E5 in the E6 position probably out performs that E6. That's why he was put there

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Feb 27 at 2016 11:07 PM

SSG Drew Cook — Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:07:25 -0500

The most capable holds the position, period.

Response by SGT Leon Riege made Mar 8 at 2016 10:05 PM

SGT Leon Riege — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:05:47 -0500

could you put this into context ?

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Sep 25 at 2017 7:40 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:40:28 -0400

Yes

Response by SP5 Larry Morris made Sep 25 at 2017 8:55 PM

SP5 Larry Morris — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:55:56 -0400

been down this road time in grade

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2017 1:19 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:19:59 -0400

Im an e5. I have been an e5 for 5 years. For the last 2 almost 3 years I have been a squad leader. I'm in a e6 slot now waiting for school but my e6 got fired in my last unit & I was made the squad leader. My psg told me he had confidence in me & I proved it by how I ran my squad. To which I got great marks for on eps & ncoer. It doesn't matter the rank u wear that just makes u a SGT. It's how u wear those stripes that makes u an nco.

Response by TSgt Marco McDowell made Sep 27 at 2017 8:35 PM

TSgt Marco McDowell — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:35:42 -0400

Are they in the same section/platoon/office? If so, the person holding the billet is in charge. Now outside of it, if there is no operational reason to validate it, then the senior person is. Also, some people just aren't cut out to be in overall command. It doesn't mean they've failed, so it's wise to put the person better able to conduct the mission be it the senior or junior Sgt. We've all run across a person who was in charge just because his or her rank/seniority dictated so, but we've asked ourselves why are they in charge.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2017 9:11 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:11:37 -0400

I was a E5 in a E7 slot above 2 E6's, some people don't have the leadership skills or the ability. As for me I get that rated time and experience in that position. It sets me apart from my peers for when I get looked at for the E7 board. So my thought is that the one in position is greater than.

Response by SGT Eric Hawkins made Sep 28 at 2017 8:46 AM

SGT Eric Hawkins — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:46:09 -0400

It is the SGT in a SSG position. If you've got more time in grade than your Squad Leader, there is a reason that you're not in that slot. That being said, as a professional NCO, it shouldn't matter. You are not the SL. Your job is to set the example for your team. If you let yourself get involved in petty squabbling about TIG, then expect your SPC's and Privates to do the same. The troopers will see who is technically and tactically sound and they will follow said leader.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2017 9:27 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:27:17 -0400

The Soldier was placed in a leadership position for a reason. Time in Grade (TIG) is actually a tie breaker in being promoted; therefore, the person that is filling a slot may not be filling it very long if not promotable. If the Soldier with more TIG is not promotable, there is a reason that he isn't in charge. That would mean that it is time to complete some SSD, NCOES, pass an APFT, is under an administrative hold, and/or needs to quit being a shit bag.

Response by SFC William Nichols made Sep 28 at 2017 3:05 PM

SFC William Nichols — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:05:40 -0400

As an E7 holding down the E8 slot on Rear Detachment in the 10th Mtn DIV. I would've rather deployed again than deal with that headache again. But still retained the best overall in DIV with fewest amount of issues, because our team actually helped spouses and Soldiers rather than made sure Stats were accurately reported.

Response by PO2 Michael Cashman made Sep 29 at 2017 12:47 AM

PO2 Michael Cashman — Fri, 29 Sep 2017 00:47:44 -0400

I was there I was an E5 in an E6 position I was 20 years old and my division officer went looking to replace me because I was to young