Posted on Aug 17, 2015
SGT Robert Pennington
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I am preparing my packet for the Green to Gold program since I already have two years of college and I want to finish my degree. What I'm curious about is, with me already having an MOS, how will I be reassigned? Will my degree play any part in what type of job I am given? Will I be given the choice to become an officer in the reserves since it's through ROTC?
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LTC Kevin B.
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The Army has a process where they try to align your interests, your background, and the needs of the Army into a branch selection for you. The process changes quite a bit from year to year, so the specifics get a little muddy, depending on who is telling you how the process works. They may be telling you the process they faced, but that may not be the process you'll face.

I'll disagree with those on here who have said that your MOS will play no role in the branch you get assigned. It may indeed play a role, but it will depend on some factors. If you specifically request a branch that aligns with your enlisted MOS, and if you perform well in ROTC, the Army may very well assign you to your preferred branch based on both your ROTC performance and your background. That happened with me. I was a medic when I was an enlisted soldier. I did well in ROTC, I requested Medical Service Corps, and I was selected for that branch. So, to say your MOS will play no role whatsoever is not entirely true. I will say that if you select a branch that is unrelated to your MOS, and you do well in ROTC, then the Army most likely won't force you into a branch that you don't want.

Bottom line, do well in ROTC and you'll stand a much better chance at getting what you want (and your MOS may help you get that branch if you like the field you're in currently).
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My initial plan is to attend Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University I'm an Aeronautics major and I'm just wondering if I'm coming into ROTC program and I have a cumulative of 75 credits. I know it's 60 credits you're considered a junior but that's if all the credit transfer I just wanted to know what are the limitations of credit that I can take before I am ineligible to become a junior to enroll into the 21-month program green to gold.
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Hello sir I wanted to now about PCS how does that work. Is like regular army move with BAH with the active duty Green to Gold process. Or would I be housed in the traditional College dorm room ?
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LTC Kevin B.
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SPC (Join to see) - From looking at the G2G website, it looks like it would be a normal PCS assignment to and from the school, and you'd receive BAH to live wherever you'd like (an apartment or in the dorms).

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/advance-your-career/green-to-gold/green-to-gold-active-duty.html
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sir I wanted to know what is the duration of waivers that have to go brigade for signature? two to three months or longer. and I wanted too ask another question as well so potential I would nearly 80 credits before I get to the program I'm projected to go too. I noticed it say that I just need to have two years left does that mean a full load of credits to take such as 12-15? each semster
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PV2 Pennington,
If you are doing G2G active duty option then you automatically come back to active duty, but you also have to be an E4 with 24mos time in service to do that so I assume you are looking at a two year scholarship. In that case you can opt for Reserve or compete for active duty. Your degree will have zero Bering on what branch you get. If you do well enough with GPA, APFT, etc then you have a better chance of getting the branch you want for active duty. If you choose Reserve then you can choose your branch and you will get that branch. Email me if you have anymore questions @ [login to see]
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First, I would like to commend you on putting together a G2G packet and striving to finish your undergraduate degree. I wish you the very best of luck with the application process.

If you are planning on pursuing a commission as an officer on Active Duty (a requirement of the Action Duty G2G Option, but optional on the Scholarship/Non-Scholarship options), your branch will determined by a wide variety of factors, from academic performance, military performance, as well as personal history and preferences. From my experience, there is a strong correlation between prior enlisted being branched or "accessed" into a similar branch, but there is no guarantee. You should embrace the possibility that you can end up in any branch that the Army determines. That being said, with the right attitude, I believe that any branch can provide a meaningful and rewarding career.

I went Green to Gold in 2014, earning a Masters in Business Administration from Drexel University. I came from a previous MOS in the Adjutant General Branch, but was hoping that my MBA would help me obtain a slot in the Finance Corp, AG, or one of the combat support branches. I ended up being selected for the AG branch, but with a Branch Detail assignment to my 13th choice, Field Artillery. I have truly enjoyed my first year as an artillery officer, and a lot of that has to do with having a positive attitude that focuses on the positive. Always remember why you want to become an officer, which hopefully includes some part about serving the Soldiers who you will lead.

If you have further questions about accessions, or specific challenges of being a Green to Gold cadet/student in a college setting, please let me know. Again, I wish you all the best with your application.
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What happens after graduating from the Green to Gold program?
LTC Jason Mackay
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Lots of good responses here, I will add that two years of college you have does not equal two years left. Most colleges max you out with transfer credit of 12 credits hours (3-4 classes). ROTC and Basic Training take care of your phys Ed requirements. An exception would be if you earned the credits at that particular university.
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Good luck!
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Sir-

Some colleges and universities allow any transfer credits, as long as the last 30-60 are from their university. I transferred 90 credits to the college I commissioned from.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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That is encouraging. It seems to be the exception though. My point is check it out, it won't be in the trifold glossy recruiting brochure. Look befor you leap. Cadet Command is pretty invested in your graduation date.
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LTC Jason Mackay - Sir,
The rule not the exception is to accept up to 90 semester hours for undergraduate, no more than 15 for graduate course work depending on the school. Most of them stay in the 6-12 credits range. These are the guidelines presented by the Council on Higher Education (CHE). Just an FYI.
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MAJ Knowledge Management Specialist
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You'll have orders assigning you to your officer basic course before you finish your degree. I had orders to Fort Benning to the Infantry Officers Basic Course prior to my graduation. Your ROTC admin staff will help you get on your way.
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SGT Robert Pennington
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Thank you for your input, sir. It's been about two years since I've been in senior ROTC, and I do remember the cadre at school being very informative.
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You currently have an enlisted MOS but this will not necessarily have any bearing on your future MOS as an officer. It may be a completely different field -- you will have some say in that, but ultimately its needs of the Army. In most circumstances, the degree you pursue will not play a huge role in the job you are given. The exceptions are Nursing and other medical fields. (You cant be an Army Nurse without a Nursing Degree). Also, if you want to be an Engineer, you will be unlikely to be an Engineer officer without an Engineering degree (this hasn't always been the case, but it is today). The most important thing you can do is get good grades. Your GPA will play a large role in your Cadet Ranking. Branch (MOS) Assignments are competitive. You will rank your preferences and you will be competing against all the other Cadets in your year group (at least to some extent its more complicated than that but I can't do it justice in a forum posting). You will have the option to go Reserve, National Guard, or you can compete for Active Duty (its not a guarantee). Let me know if you have follow up questions. I've worked in Cadet Command as both a civilian contractor and as an Army Officer.
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Green to gold was briefed as only available for active duty spots. Meaning you will default to active duty coming off active duty from what we were briefed this Summer by cadet command.
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Cadet SSG (Join to see) - What you were briefed wasn't necessarily incorrect. It just wasn't the whole story. There are 3 types of Green to Gold Options: Active Duty Option; Scholarship Option; and Non-Scholarship Option. Cadets under the first two options are more than likely going to go Active Duty upon completion --however, as with everything, it's needs of the Army. Cadets under the non-scholarship option don't always end up active duty. I can think of at least 3 of my former Cadets who were Green to Gold who ended up in the National Guard upon commissioning.
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I went non-scholarship option and I can add that it is indeed the most risky option to take. I have a family, so when I was completely separated from the Army, I gave up E-6 pay as well as Tricare. But with that, I used it as motivation to do very well in every thing that I did; academic, advanced camp, on campus, etc. I worked hard and was awarded an active duty commission. But I can tell you that it was a very stressful 2 year process!
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So if you have an Engineering degree, you are guaranteed to be an Engineering Officer?
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CPT Matthew Bate
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After your Junior Year, you'll go to a month long FTX called National Advanced Leadership Course where you'll be evaluated against your peers. You will rank order all the branches and you'll be assessed and placed into a branch depending on your evaluations and your preferred branch (higher evaluations = more likelihood you will get your branch of choice.). Your enlistment MOS has no bearing really on what branch you end up in. Your degree may help, but it's not a prerequisite.
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Unless they are sending G2G cadets to something separate the new camp is called CLC and the SMP cadets I know have had very negative experiences at the course.
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CPT Matthew Bate
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Just like everything, the course is what you make of it. I had guys at my course in 2004 who complained and hated it. I had a decent time. Same with any Army course I've ever gone to. If you have a bad attitude, you'll have a bad experience. Just like my drill sergeant, SSG Rivera, said when talking about burning feces in desert storm: "you can complain about burning feces, or you can have fun burning feces; either way, you're still gonna burn feces."
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Its now called Cadet Leadership Course (CLC) its very different from the old NALC or Advanced Camp. Your performance at camp doesn't play as large of a role in your OML as it used to. No More Blue Cards. Lots more free time.
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Once you get accepted to a college, the Recruiting Operations Officer will acedimically allign you into a mission set. Even though you have two years of school, you may possibily become a sophmore due to what that college accepts and tranfer credits. Once you contract as a Cadet, you will re-assess competing for Active Duty or Guard/Reserves. Active duty is not garanteed unless you go to a Senior Military College like Citadel or VMI. Campus based performace, GPA, APFT, LDAC/CLC are all tied to this. You will be competing to assess among peers nation wide. You will start your assesions process Spring semester of your Junior year. For your assions packet you will select perfered Componet (Active, Guard, Reserves) select your branch preference, and Duty assignment if Active. This is all do by the ROTC Battlion's HRAs. That Summer you'll, attend The Cadet Leadership Course at FT Knox, and complete your assesions when you return at the end of the Summer. Branching is awarded in the Fall OCT/NOV your Senior year. Degree work usually does not play a role into Officer Branching, but I did see a Chemical Engineer Student Branch Chemical. It was #7 on his wish list. Hope this helps.
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You will fill out an accessions package at the beginning of your senior year. That's where you'll request branches and assignments. I have heard both good and bad as to how well the Army matches your desires. I was fortunate enough to get the branch, duty station, and OBC start date of choice. Grades and overall performance while in the program is very important. The top 10% of yoru class will be designated Distinguished Military Graduates (DMG). DMGs tend to get more of what they ask for during accessions. Your degree might have some play in selection, but not always. One key bit of advice, that I wish I had when I went through on my Green to Gold, is to keep an open mind. You have some active duty under your belt, so you'll be up on many things your peers may not be. Don't be arrogant or conceited. Help your peers out as often as you can. You'll be surprised how often you'll run into someone from ROTC or someone who knows them. When you get to Advanced Camp (summer of your junior year), it'll feel like Basic all over again (but easier); again, check the attitude and just be the best soldier you can. The evaluation you get there will also greatly influence what you get from your requests at accession. Glad to see a hard charger following my footsteps! Lead the Way!
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Needs of the Army or National Guard depending on how you are branching. Not sure if your prior MOS will have any weight towards your commissioned branch. If you ask for Reserves or Guard you will most likely get it based on the ongoing AD drawdown. Back in 1990 they told us AD was tough to get depending on the branch you were looking for. I chose SC and got it - lucky me I guess. NG will depend on what units are in state and what slots are available. In RI it was MP or FA - you were 90% guaranteed to be branched one of them no matter what you picked as those were the majority of units we had back then. Your degree historically has very little to do with your branch choice unless it's in nursing or law or some other licensed professional certification that easily translates into an Army branch. Even civil engineering or some computer/electronics degree didn't guarantee you an EN or SC branch. Work with your faculty as they will help guide you and hopefully get you into one of the branches your most interested in. MAJ (Join to see) states that you go to your OBC before graduating. You used to go to OBC only after you graduate and have your degree. I delayed my OBC date as I got my commission before graduating a year later (that option was eventually eliminated later) You also used to be able to get a commission with 60 college credits and now need the full degree. Times have obviously changed. You went to Advanced Camp (back in my day that's what it was called) or National Advanced Leadership Course as CPT Matthew Bate states between your junior and senior year as "intro to Big Army 101"
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That's not what I said. I said he will have orders to OBC prior to graduation.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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My apology for the misreading of your statement MAJ (Join to see).
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No worries. I'm not taking anything personally.
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