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I saw this on Facebook. What's your thought?
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Posted 10 y ago
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He had nothing to gain?
Sure, that is totally why he shopped his knowledge to the Chinese in Hong Kong and later settled down in Moscow.
I started a thread a while ago where I posited my theory that it is not a coincidence that the Russians got all uppity when they suddenly got access to Snowden. They have been reading our mail.
This SOB is no hero. He is a traitor, pure and simple. I hope he comes home soon. Maybe Chelsea Manning could be his roommate.
Sure, that is totally why he shopped his knowledge to the Chinese in Hong Kong and later settled down in Moscow.
I started a thread a while ago where I posited my theory that it is not a coincidence that the Russians got all uppity when they suddenly got access to Snowden. They have been reading our mail.
This SOB is no hero. He is a traitor, pure and simple. I hope he comes home soon. Maybe Chelsea Manning could be his roommate.
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1SG (Join to see) - Just as long as we don't have to pay for HIS sex change hormones as well....and a panel to be convened try to decide whether Nidal Hassan should be required to shave.
v/r,
CPT Butler
v/r,
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My first thought is $200,000!!!! Wow I went into the wrong part of the government! The second is yeah ok....and I am part of those 97% that wouldn't repost something that is that stupid.
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I do believe that Mr. Snowden BELIEVED he was doing the right thing. I think he saw processes and procedures that he strongly disagreed with and couldn't support. Here's where he rolled off the tracks and down the embankment.
His actions reek of naivete and ignorance. Clearly, he has no idea how the world works, and his idealistic immaturity led him to make a set of horrible choices. He was wrong to violate his contract and - in no uncertain terms - commit treason.
In short, I agree with his STATED concern and disgust for what he saw the NSA doing. But there is NO WAY on this earth that I can condone in any manner the action that he took. He had alternatives. He chose poorly...
His actions reek of naivete and ignorance. Clearly, he has no idea how the world works, and his idealistic immaturity led him to make a set of horrible choices. He was wrong to violate his contract and - in no uncertain terms - commit treason.
In short, I agree with his STATED concern and disgust for what he saw the NSA doing. But there is NO WAY on this earth that I can condone in any manner the action that he took. He had alternatives. He chose poorly...
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PO2 Steven Erickson
I must have missed my target, 1SG (Join to see).
Every step of the way, this guy's actions look like a simian trying to copulate with an ovoid sports object. If, like you say, he knew what he was doing, he did EVERYTHING WRONG. Again... the guy's a traitor and a criminal. However, I think above all else, he's ignorant of how the world works.
Here's what I think happened:
Snowden:
1. This stuff is bad. I don't like it. I think it's against the law or unethical.
2. I have to do something about it. No one but me can fix this.
3. I'll go public, like Woodward and Bernstein. The people will understand what I did and why. The Gov't will be mad, but the people will rally behind me.
(Epic Sh#t Storm Ensues)
4. Holy Crap. I'm in trouble. I need to get outta here. China. Yeah. China will take me until this all blows over.
5. I'll do an interview. They don't understand why I did what I did. That'll make it better.
(Second Epic Sh#t Storm Ensues)
6. I'm screwed. What do I do now? Russia hates the US. I'll go there. Sh#t! I'll go ANYWHERE.
The guy's an idiot, and I don't think he realized what the hell he was getting himself into. He could have simply disappeared or made a butt-ton of cash. Instead... he's screwed.
The road to Hell (and the gallows) is paved with good intentions.
Every step of the way, this guy's actions look like a simian trying to copulate with an ovoid sports object. If, like you say, he knew what he was doing, he did EVERYTHING WRONG. Again... the guy's a traitor and a criminal. However, I think above all else, he's ignorant of how the world works.
Here's what I think happened:
Snowden:
1. This stuff is bad. I don't like it. I think it's against the law or unethical.
2. I have to do something about it. No one but me can fix this.
3. I'll go public, like Woodward and Bernstein. The people will understand what I did and why. The Gov't will be mad, but the people will rally behind me.
(Epic Sh#t Storm Ensues)
4. Holy Crap. I'm in trouble. I need to get outta here. China. Yeah. China will take me until this all blows over.
5. I'll do an interview. They don't understand why I did what I did. That'll make it better.
(Second Epic Sh#t Storm Ensues)
6. I'm screwed. What do I do now? Russia hates the US. I'll go there. Sh#t! I'll go ANYWHERE.
The guy's an idiot, and I don't think he realized what the hell he was getting himself into. He could have simply disappeared or made a butt-ton of cash. Instead... he's screwed.
The road to Hell (and the gallows) is paved with good intentions.
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He could have gotten a lawyer and had much more impact on any wrongdoing without having to go into exile. The optics alone of someone with his skill set and access moving to Russia is a game changer for him. If he ever returns that will now be the focus and it did not have to be that way. He made at least one very bad choice by leaving the US. I have no problem with him exposing some bad actors and practices (within limits in interest of national Security), but have a big problem with him doing it while a guest of the Russians. Folks that are upset about NSA actions need to read Patriot Act vs. 4th Amendment to put things in context.
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