CSM Private RallyPoint Member 78073 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;I am sure many folks on this page are also on FB. And if you are on FB you have probably seen US Army WTF Moments. If you have seen this page you have probably seen a new trend of Guideon &amp;amp; Colors&amp;nbsp;thievery.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I ask, what do you think of this? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is it in good fun or is it&amp;nbsp;stealing?&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if you caught someone trying to steal your colors?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if your colors were actually stolen?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if you find one of your Soldiers stole someone else&#39;s&amp;nbsp;colors?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally I take this action as theft, and if I caught someone stealing my Guideon or Colors; or found someone who had successfully stolen the same; I would call the PMO and press charges to the fullest extent. Thieves have no place in this Army. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I know; there is only one thief in the Army, everyone else is just trying to get their stuff back.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 2014-03-18T07:30:09-04:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 78073

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;I am sure many folks on this page are also on FB. And if you are on FB you have probably seen US Army WTF Moments. If you have seen this page you have probably seen a new trend of Guideon &amp;amp; Colors&amp;nbsp;thievery.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I ask, what do you think of this? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is it in good fun or is it&amp;nbsp;stealing?&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if you caught someone trying to steal your colors?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if your colors were actually stolen?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What would you do if you find one of your Soldiers stole someone else&#39;s&amp;nbsp;colors?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally I take this action as theft, and if I caught someone stealing my Guideon or Colors; or found someone who had successfully stolen the same; I would call the PMO and press charges to the fullest extent. Thieves have no place in this Army. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I know; there is only one thief in the Army, everyone else is just trying to get their stuff back.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

2014-03-18T07:30:09-04:00 2014-03-18T07:30:09-04:00 SFC Robert Trodahl 78077

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s a pain in the behind! It may be viewed as good fun by the thieves, but the unit who has lost the guideon suffers repercussions from the loss.&amp;nbsp; If I caught the thieves, I would have their CDR/1SG come claim them and explain why they condone such a practice.

2014-03-18T07:43:07-04:00 2014-03-18T07:43:07-04:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 78093

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>1SG, the trend is not new. Perhaps more people are practicing now days. I remember as a young Soldier that the "aqired" guidon was to be treated with some sort of respect and never damaged or destroyed. The loss must never affect a parade or some other big deal event. Those things cost a lot of money!<br /><br />Getting caught meant getting into a heap of trouble. Stealing it was only under the circumstances that would have lead to a loss (most likely unsecured or left outside overnight).<br /><br />I always saw guidons as the main simbol of the company. During unit runs I loved being the guidon bearer. I always looked forward to race someone around the battalion formation (not in the reg yet we had unspoken rules). The guidon is our pride, and to see it beat the other unit brings some of us a sort of motivation. <br /><br />Is stealing a guidon wrong? Yes! They call it stealing for a reason. Does it teach the loosing unit a lesson? Yes. Should we condone it? ..... Well, I guess that is why we are having this discussion.

2014-03-18T08:24:47-04:00 2014-03-18T08:24:47-04:00 SFC Aaron Calmes 78118

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>1SG Whitman, unfortunately I had to deal with this after arriving in Kuwait before driving into Iraq. I had a soldier on my team that I received from another unit just prior to deployment. He decided he was going to steal a Civil Affairs Battalion guidon from in front of their tent (Guidon was properly posted outside as the commander was there). I was sitting in my company&#39;s tent when he came in with it. I told him to immediately return it, in person, and not just leave it outside. Mind you this Battalion had several O-6s, O-5s, and a ton of O-4s and O-3s. I counseled him and by the end of the deployment had reduced him from E-4 to E-1 and he received a General Discharge for several instances of theft as well as many other issues.<br /><br />I think the few times it would be borderline acceptable if, as others have said, it was left outside overnight or if it is a running joke between specific Commanders or First Sergeants to be returned shortly afterwards. Even then I don&#39;t think an E-1 to E-4 should be deciding to do it on their own. It should be coming from the CO or 1SG.<br /><br />Personally, if I found one outside, I would just secure it and leave a note on the door.

2014-03-18T09:07:07-04:00 2014-03-18T09:07:07-04:00 SFC William Swartz Jr 78119

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SECURING another unit&#39;s guidon so that nothing bad happens to it is perfectly fine as long as nothing immoral or asinine happens to it while being secured...the symbol of a unit should not be left unattended or secured lest it grow legs and walk away..imho!

2014-03-18T09:07:10-04:00 2014-03-18T09:07:10-04:00 SGT Bryon Sergent 78129

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;The ONLY Time that it was&amp;nbsp;done the once it was taken was to the first Sergeant and I told Him that it was left UNSECURE. We both took it to the unit it was secured from that next morning before PT. It was one of our sister companies and the CQ forgot to bring it in. IT wasn&#39;t Stolen I just secured it and I was the one with my First Sergeant who took it back because I didnt want to get accused of STEALING it. The recieving first Sergenat was glad and the CQ was in hot water. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only other time was at school. It was a game to steal the KEY(spade) off the top. I took mine with me everywhere and the othe class was pissed cause they couldnt steal my key!&lt;/p&gt;

2014-03-18T09:14:18-04:00 2014-03-18T09:14:18-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 78136

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is not a new trend in the military this has been going on for years. Maybe if the commander or 1SG appointed some one such as the training NCO or a junior enlisted soldier to place the guideons in the morning and remove it when the commander leave for the day this wouldn&#39;t happen so much. It also the BN staff duty NCO if he conducting his security checks to secure it at BN and leave a message for the CO or 1SG that he or her secured the guideon for them.

2014-03-18T09:22:21-04:00 2014-03-18T09:22:21-04:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 78141

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;Guideon theft is a long standing tradition... if caught, I&#39;d expect joe to pay the price. It&#39;s a risk/reward thing. Do the benefits of stealing one (in good fun) outweigh the risks of getting caught? I&#39;ve seen chains put their joes up to it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind, we&#39;re talking about securing&amp;nbsp;unsecure guideons, left out after hours. Stealing one during the day is uncalled for.&lt;/p&gt;

2014-03-18T09:28:02-04:00 2014-03-18T09:28:02-04:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 78147

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is nothing new and I look at it as almost tradition that begins in basic. "Protect this flag"! If you do not, you pay.  I would not treat it as theft at all.  If an individual or individuals are caught attempting to snatch it, they must be made an example.  All in good fun that builds Esprit de corps. Of course it could get out of hand but, that's where leaders do their job and keep it "civil", if you will.

2014-03-18T09:30:44-04:00 2014-03-18T09:30:44-04:00 MSgt Private RallyPoint Member 78160

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;P&gt;I was unaware this was a new thing???&lt;/P&gt;<br />&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;<br />&lt;P&gt;Weve been doing this for years. I dont see it as theft but more a tradition.&amp;nbsp; If a units guidon is left unsecure or unattended in some other place than the 1Sgt&#39;s office then alls fair.&lt;/P&gt;

2014-03-18T09:46:06-04:00 2014-03-18T09:46:06-04:00 Maj Chris Nelson 78163

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>New??&amp;nbsp; At least 26 years old new!!&amp;nbsp; I think that it is ok with the understanding that 1. no laws were broken 2. no damage is done to the guideon.&amp;nbsp; 3. loosing unit must pay for lack of security.....in fun at least.&amp;nbsp;

2014-03-18T09:49:57-04:00 2014-03-18T09:49:57-04:00 CPL Private RallyPoint Member 78172

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p> US Army WTF moments has declared it as a game, all in good fun, to where if the guideon is left unsecure it must be secured and returned for a ransom! In my personal opinion, as long as it is returned to the proper unit it is not theft because we are taught from the beginning to secure all us army property when left unsecure! Soldiers creed!</p><p> </p><p>If it is however secured by someone not from your unit you can go to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.heraldry.army.mil/">http://www.heraldry.army.mil/</a> and order another one. Estimated wait is about 6 months, i would also recommend ordering a spare! </p>

2014-03-18T10:05:27-04:00 2014-03-18T10:05:27-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 78276

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>This is new?  I remember this happening when I was a PV2!  We never did it with malicious intent, it was more of a prank and the guideon always got returned.  It was more to see if the CQ was paying attention to what was happening in the company AO.</p><p> </p><p>With the situation you describe, are you seeing guideons being returned, or are they outright stolen and the unit is forced to buy a new one?  If it gets to that point, I think it has gone too far.</p>

2014-03-18T12:42:57-04:00 2014-03-18T12:42:57-04:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 78281

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&quot;New?&quot;&amp;nbsp; I&#39;m pretty sure that&#39;s been in practice for decades.&amp;nbsp; I even got a coin from my LT with a &quot;V&quot; for Valor when I was a private haha.&amp;nbsp; It&#39;s all in jest, and good fun.&amp;nbsp; It&#39;s good to have a little rivalry.&amp;nbsp; Can it get out of hand?&amp;nbsp; Certainly.&amp;nbsp; Does it frequently get really out of hand?&amp;nbsp; Doubtful.&amp;nbsp; I&#39;ve yet to see colors not eventually&amp;nbsp;returned to their organization.&amp;nbsp; You as a First Sergeant may naturally take it more personal, but think about it at your troops level.&amp;nbsp; It&#39;s really not that serious, nor really genuinely demoralizing to them is it?&amp;nbsp; It&#39;s an &quot;Awe damn, those SOB&#39;s! Let&#39;s get them back!&quot; moment.&amp;nbsp; I&#39;ve personally never&amp;nbsp;seen desecration of any colors or damage.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;After a few rounds, Commanders and First Sergeants call the cease fire, usually rather sternly, while the troops chuckle about it later and continue on with business.&amp;nbsp; It&#39;s a game that&#39;s been around longer than our grand fathers, not theft.

2014-03-18T12:53:12-04:00 2014-03-18T12:53:12-04:00 CSM Michael Poll 78284

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is not a new tradition, this has been going on for decades if not longer, When a guidon was secured, the 1SG had to &quot;pay&quot; for its return from the aquiring Company.&amp;nbsp; It was fun and Esprit De Corp in the past, unsure if it is still that now, the guidon was always returned in the end in our case.

2014-03-18T13:06:22-04:00 2014-03-18T13:06:22-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 78326

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This happened once while I was a cadet at Warrior Forge in 2006.&amp;nbsp; Someone tricked all&amp;nbsp;the fireguards into giving them the company guidons so they could replace the poles before a BDE run the following morning.&amp;nbsp; The BN commander was PISSED when everyone was in formation but no one had their&amp;nbsp;guidon except for one company.&amp;nbsp; They were all quickly returned after a 5 minute BN level butt-chewing.&amp;nbsp; The cadet who took them owned up in front of everyone and the SGM said he would not be graduating with us.&amp;nbsp; 3 days later, he did graduate (after a metric ton of push-ups and flutter-kicks), but you will never catch me orchestrating such schenanigans!&amp;nbsp; Nope!&amp;nbsp; I sure as hell don&#39;t want to be that guy!&amp;nbsp;

2014-03-18T14:20:02-04:00 2014-03-18T14:20:02-04:00 SSG Robert Burns 78730

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it is about as bad as someone with 20 years in thinking this is a &quot;new trend.&quot; &amp;nbsp;But not quite as bad. &amp;nbsp;;-)

2014-03-18T22:38:58-04:00 2014-03-18T22:38:58-04:00 MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca 375478

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not a good thing. This has probably been going on since guidons existed, kind of like stealing the rival college&#39;s mascot. Its all fun and games until some secures the WRONG guidon. We were up at Drum one AT and a few NCOs got into a verbal match with some Drum NCOs and next thing we know our unit is accused of &quot;procuring&quot; the Ft Drum NCO Academy guidon. What&#39;s worse is when confronted, the guilty individuals lied about it. The post refused to clear us for departure until the guidon was returned. After all was said and done, 2 E6s lost a stripe.

2014-12-18T06:35:59-05:00 2014-12-18T06:35:59-05:00 Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member 375634

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s perfectly legitimate as long as there are some ground rules.<br /><br />1. The unit must be home. Stealing a deployed unit&#39;s guideon is out of bounds.<br /><br />2. You have to leave a ransom note. You can&#39;t just take it and hold it indefinitely.<br /><br />3. You must adhere to the ransom agreed upon (in AF flying squadrons, commonly a bottle of booze).<br /><br />Now, if some soldier just takes a unit&#39;s guideon and stashes it in their car or apartment, that&#39;s a different matter. But one unit undertaking what the AF calls a &quot;spirit mission&quot; against a rival unit? That&#39;s all in good fun.<br /><br />Commonly stolen items I&#39;ve seen include - car tires from the squadron vehicle, art from a squadron bar, history books, unit mascots, and in one egregious case, the beer taps just prior to a squadron party. But then, the AF doesn&#39;t do much marching with our guideons...so my experience may not be the norm.

2014-12-18T09:15:54-05:00 2014-12-18T09:15:54-05:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 375652

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sounds a little like the "new trend" in Marines borrowing our food, water, equipment, vehicles, weapons, or ammo.

2014-12-18T09:33:09-05:00 2014-12-18T09:33:09-05:00 SGT Charles Vernier 375708

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only new &quot;trend&quot; here is sharing this on social media. That was inevitable. Unsecured Guidons have been &quot;secured&quot; for safekeeping since before my time.

2014-12-18T10:19:10-05:00 2014-12-18T10:19:10-05:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 375784

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Guidon theivery is about as old a &quot;tradition&quot; as it gets. Capturing a unit&#39;s colors was a mark of total defeat, as the losing side did not just quit the field, but lost their symbol of honor as well.<br />Julius Ceasar went to great lengths to recapture a legionary standard that fell into the hands of the Gauls - although the movies on the subject took some liberties.<br /><br />Look, units are supposed to protect their colors at all costs. Leaving them unsecured outside just begs for jackassery. If I were to leave my guidon out, I would hope that an adjacent unit would secure it, give it back to me in a reasonable timeframe, and watch me eat crow for leaving it out. If they are breaking a lock or roughing up the bearer to get it, that&#39;s a whole &#39;nother story.<br />Yes, I expect a little trophy picture taking or &quot;are you missing&quot; something ribbing. If you desecrate and dishonor my colors, we are going to have a discussion.

2014-12-18T11:13:42-05:00 2014-12-18T11:13:42-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 375826

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not a new trend, especially on the Marine side. Its all good fun as long as you respect their guideon as in not burning it lol. Take a couple selfies with it and have a nice mcmap brawl for it back!!! Add some incentives for your junior troops to take it like increased liberty time

2014-12-18T11:30:51-05:00 2014-12-18T11:30:51-05:00 MAJ Ronnie Reams 375873

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Been going on since the 1960s that I am aware of and I'm sure we did not start the trend.

2014-12-18T12:00:22-05:00 2014-12-18T12:00:22-05:00 SGT Graham "Tom" Town 376023

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>WTFO, did I get on the Boy Scouts of America page by mistake? Stealing Guideons? Is this what the REMFs do? Do they qualify for the CAB if successful?

2014-12-18T13:24:34-05:00 2014-12-18T13:24:34-05:00 SSG Tim Everett 377312

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is not a new trend, sorry. I did this as a dumb private in 1995. I stole every guidon in the battalion (except ours). I stole the battalion colours.<br /><br />I even stole the Marine Corps guidon from in front of their company. In broad daylight. They were mad as fuck. But considering how much they did it to us, they got over it.

2014-12-19T09:16:49-05:00 2014-12-19T09:16:49-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 377867

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We had this sort of rivalry in BCT. It was regular that another platoon would "secure" another platoon's guidon. Half the fun was retrieving it without them knowing about it, and "magically finding" their's at the same time. In the event it happened in another scenario, I'm sure a 1st Sgt would raise some Hell on Earth right quick!

2014-12-19T16:57:14-05:00 2014-12-19T16:57:14-05:00 1SG Steven Stankovich 377874

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Securing another unit's colors is a tradition almost as old as the grog. 1SGs have to pay the piper to get those Colors back. That is the way that it is. Guidon Bearers have always been selected for their trustworthiness and their "presence." Take it if you dare. 1SGs and CSMs are charged with taking care of the unit Colors. <br /><br />With that being said, USA WTF Moments Facebook Page takes the practice to new limits. By limits, I mean we are in a Social Media world and unit "shortcomings" are quick to be posted on those sites. This is the world that we live in. I don't hate that world. I am just trying to adapt to it the best that I can. If you don't want to be today or tomorrow's Social Media crave, do yourself and your Commander a favor, secure the colors.

2014-12-19T17:01:06-05:00 2014-12-19T17:01:06-05:00 SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member 378746

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nothing new to this. I love snagging guidons from other units within the battalion during unit runs. Then just run with my company until they realize it. A bit of fun is all. If someone stole it to be a douche and desecrate it then your reaction can be understood.

2014-12-20T11:27:15-05:00 2014-12-20T11:27:15-05:00 SSG Daniel Deiler 378791

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know what a guideon is but assume you mean guidon. It's a long standing tradition. Plain and simple. If you don't want it stolen, don't leave it unsecured. It's even tradition to attempt to do during PT runs, especially a BN run as noted below. It's done all in good fun and esprit de corps. If it was thievery, there would be no intent on returning the GUIDON. <br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.guidon.net">http://www.guidon.net</a>

2014-12-20T12:05:14-05:00 2014-12-20T12:05:14-05:00 SSG Chris Castillo 378796

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I like it. Protect those colors 1SG

2014-12-20T12:05:37-05:00 2014-12-20T12:05:37-05:00 SSG Ike Phelan 379009

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a great topic to discuss on this page. I agree with most people on this page if you secure someone else's guidon and you do it the way it is suppose to be done then it is all in good fun. We did this in my first unit all the time to the other platoons and the other units and it was a lot of fun and the platoon or person who lost their giodon was made an example of. We did not disrespect their guidon Ina any way and no one kept it for good and the platoon COC knew who had it most of the time the 1st SGT would call the platoon leader or Sargent out in formation to pay for and retrieve their guidon. But we also ran the gauntlet (for promotions) in this unit while we were down range and these were all the things I loved about the military when you try to turn a bunch of kids in to business men it does not turn out the way you want you have to let them be kids every once in awhile everyone has fun and it build unit cohesion and comradery. Besides that it also makes your guidon bearer take his job seriously and not like it is just some other extra detail trust me if he know someone can steal the guidon he will guard it like a hawk. Do not take your self or you kob to serious besides if your colors are ever taken in combats you can just look at 1-4 infantry in Hohenfels Germany to know your fate. Their colors were taken in Vietnam and they were deemed a training unit only from that day forward and to this day they have not deployed as a unit they have been over to the wars but just as a platoon or a few guys but not as a company or battion.

2014-12-20T15:11:59-05:00 2014-12-20T15:11:59-05:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 380249

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've only been playing Army for 13 years now so it cracks me up to see all these more veteran gentlemen chime in on this. The Majors, Sergeants Major, Master Sergeants and above. Just comes to show how long it's been around, and how things haven't ALL changed to conform to a handful of whiners in this great service. Kind of like the picture from WW2 if the gentleness posing with a launcher as their man parts lol. Men will be bo- er men! Men MUST compete even amongst their brothers. It is the natural way and tendency of man, and in doing so, begets a cohesive nature amongst men. Deep thought complete.

2014-12-21T13:22:29-05:00 2014-12-21T13:22:29-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 2200154

<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-126989"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-new-trend-to-steal-guideons%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+of+the+new+trend+to+steal+guideons%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-new-trend-to-steal-guideons&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think of the new trend to steal guideons?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-new-trend-to-steal-guideons" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="95f3377607b539a5ecb95441f938719d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/126/989/for_gallery_v2/e73092b9.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/126/989/large_v3/e73092b9.jpg" alt="E73092b9" /></a></div></div>Nothing new. As a Det SGT I actually have another Company guidon in my office that was unsecure.

2016-12-29T23:08:58-05:00 2016-12-29T23:08:58-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2268819

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Balad, Iraq 2008, several guidon &quot;went missing&quot; in a single night which became named by the PMO as &quot;the night of the ghosts&quot; due to the lack of evidence or witnesses. Nearly 9 years later, I have come into possession of 1 of those guidons, but am having difficulty with identifying it so that it may be returned to it&#39;s rightful home.

2017-01-21T11:36:22-05:00 2017-01-21T11:36:22-05:00 2014-03-18T07:30:09-04:00