What do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-48913"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+of+the+Iran+Deal%E2%80%99s+Fatal+Flaw%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="0bfcd9b508edd18e2da74dbe5675d982" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/913/for_gallery_v2/965864e8.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/913/large_v3/965864e8.jpg" alt="965864e8" /></a></div></div>The Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw!<br /><br />By ALAN J. KUPERMANJUNE 23, 2015<br /><br />PRESIDENT OBAMA’S main pitch for the pending nuclear deal with Iran is that it would extend the “breakout time” necessary for Iran to produce enough enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon. In a recent interview with NPR, he said that the current breakout time is “about two to three months by our intelligence estimates.” By contrast, he claimed, the pending deal would shrink Iran’s nuclear program, so that if Iran later “decided to break the deal, kick out all the inspectors, break the seals and go for a bomb, we’d have over a year to respond.”<br /><br />Unfortunately, that claim is false, as can be demonstrated with basic science and math. By my calculations, Iran’s actual breakout time under the deal would be approximately three months — not over a year. Thus, the deal would be unlikely to improve the world’s ability to react to a sudden effort by Iran to build a bomb.<br /><br />Breakout time is determined by three primary factors: the number and type of centrifuges; the enrichment of the starting material; and the amount of enriched uranium required for a nuclear weapon. Mr. Obama seems to make rosy assumptions about all three.<br /><br />Most important, in the event of an overt attempt by Iran to build a bomb, Mr. Obama’s argument assumes that Iran would employ only the 5,060 centrifuges that the deal would allow for uranium enrichment, not the roughly 14,000 additional centrifuges that Iran would be permitted to keep mainly for spare parts. Such an assumption is laughable. In a real-world breakout, Iran would race, not crawl, to the bomb.<br /><br />These additional centrifuges would need to be connected, brought up to speed and equilibrated with the already operating ones. But at that point, Iran’s enrichment capacity could exceed three times what Mr. Obama assumes. This flaw could be addressed by amending the deal to require Iran to destroy or export the additional centrifuges, but Iran refuses.<br /><br />Second, since the deal would permit Iran to keep only a small amount of enriched uranium in the gaseous form used in centrifuges, Mr. Obama assumes that a dash for the bomb would start mainly from unenriched uranium, thereby lengthening the breakout time. But the deal would appear to also permit Iran to keep large amounts of enriched uranium in solid form (as opposed to gas), which could be reconverted to gas within weeks, thus providing a substantial head-start to producing weapons-grade uranium.<br /><br />Third, Mr. Obama’s argument assumes that Iran would require 59 pounds of weapons-grade uranium to make an atomic bomb. In reality, nuclear weapons can be made from much smaller amounts of uranium (as experts assume North Korea does in its rudimentary arsenal). A 1995 study by the Natural Resources Defense Council concluded that even a “low technical capability” nuclear weapon could produce an explosion with a force approaching that of the Hiroshima bomb — using just 29 pounds of weapons-grade uranium.<br /><br />Based on such realistic assumptions, Iran’s breakout time under the pending deal actually would be around three months, while its current breakout time is a little under two months. Thus, the deal would increase the breakout time by just over a month, too little to matter. Mr. Obama’s main argument for the agreement — extending Iran’s breakout time — turns out to be effectively worthless.<br /><br />Showering Iran with rewards for making illusory concessions poses grave risks. It would entrench the ruling mullahs, who could claim credit for Iran’s economic resurgence. The extra resources would also enable Iran to amplify the havoc it is fostering in neighboring countries like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen.<br /><br />Worst of all, lifting sanctions would facilitate a huge expansion of Iran’s nuclear program. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, says that he wants 190,000 centrifuges eventually, or 10 times the current amount, as would appear to be permissible under the deal after just 10 years. Such enormous enrichment capacity would shrink the breakout time to mere days, so that Iran could produce enough weapons-grade uranium for a bomb before we even knew it was trying — thus eliminating any hope of our taking preventive action.<br /><br />Nothing in the pending deal is worth such risks. Unless President Obama can extract significantly greater concessions at the negotiating table, Congress should refuse to lift sanctions, thereby blocking implementation of a deal that would provide Iran billions of dollars to pursue nuclear weapons and regional hegemony.<br /><br />Alan J. Kuperman is an associate professor and the coordinator of the Nuclear Proliferation Prevention Project at the University of Texas at Austin.<br /> Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:07:29 -0400 What do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-48913"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+of+the+Iran+Deal%E2%80%99s+Fatal+Flaw%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="ce52b806442f98485fe6b48d9deda04d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/913/for_gallery_v2/965864e8.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/913/large_v3/965864e8.jpg" alt="965864e8" /></a></div></div>The Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw!<br /><br />By ALAN J. KUPERMANJUNE 23, 2015<br /><br />PRESIDENT OBAMA’S main pitch for the pending nuclear deal with Iran is that it would extend the “breakout time” necessary for Iran to produce enough enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon. In a recent interview with NPR, he said that the current breakout time is “about two to three months by our intelligence estimates.” By contrast, he claimed, the pending deal would shrink Iran’s nuclear program, so that if Iran later “decided to break the deal, kick out all the inspectors, break the seals and go for a bomb, we’d have over a year to respond.”<br /><br />Unfortunately, that claim is false, as can be demonstrated with basic science and math. By my calculations, Iran’s actual breakout time under the deal would be approximately three months — not over a year. Thus, the deal would be unlikely to improve the world’s ability to react to a sudden effort by Iran to build a bomb.<br /><br />Breakout time is determined by three primary factors: the number and type of centrifuges; the enrichment of the starting material; and the amount of enriched uranium required for a nuclear weapon. Mr. Obama seems to make rosy assumptions about all three.<br /><br />Most important, in the event of an overt attempt by Iran to build a bomb, Mr. Obama’s argument assumes that Iran would employ only the 5,060 centrifuges that the deal would allow for uranium enrichment, not the roughly 14,000 additional centrifuges that Iran would be permitted to keep mainly for spare parts. Such an assumption is laughable. In a real-world breakout, Iran would race, not crawl, to the bomb.<br /><br />These additional centrifuges would need to be connected, brought up to speed and equilibrated with the already operating ones. But at that point, Iran’s enrichment capacity could exceed three times what Mr. Obama assumes. This flaw could be addressed by amending the deal to require Iran to destroy or export the additional centrifuges, but Iran refuses.<br /><br />Second, since the deal would permit Iran to keep only a small amount of enriched uranium in the gaseous form used in centrifuges, Mr. Obama assumes that a dash for the bomb would start mainly from unenriched uranium, thereby lengthening the breakout time. But the deal would appear to also permit Iran to keep large amounts of enriched uranium in solid form (as opposed to gas), which could be reconverted to gas within weeks, thus providing a substantial head-start to producing weapons-grade uranium.<br /><br />Third, Mr. Obama’s argument assumes that Iran would require 59 pounds of weapons-grade uranium to make an atomic bomb. In reality, nuclear weapons can be made from much smaller amounts of uranium (as experts assume North Korea does in its rudimentary arsenal). A 1995 study by the Natural Resources Defense Council concluded that even a “low technical capability” nuclear weapon could produce an explosion with a force approaching that of the Hiroshima bomb — using just 29 pounds of weapons-grade uranium.<br /><br />Based on such realistic assumptions, Iran’s breakout time under the pending deal actually would be around three months, while its current breakout time is a little under two months. Thus, the deal would increase the breakout time by just over a month, too little to matter. Mr. Obama’s main argument for the agreement — extending Iran’s breakout time — turns out to be effectively worthless.<br /><br />Showering Iran with rewards for making illusory concessions poses grave risks. It would entrench the ruling mullahs, who could claim credit for Iran’s economic resurgence. The extra resources would also enable Iran to amplify the havoc it is fostering in neighboring countries like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen.<br /><br />Worst of all, lifting sanctions would facilitate a huge expansion of Iran’s nuclear program. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, says that he wants 190,000 centrifuges eventually, or 10 times the current amount, as would appear to be permissible under the deal after just 10 years. Such enormous enrichment capacity would shrink the breakout time to mere days, so that Iran could produce enough weapons-grade uranium for a bomb before we even knew it was trying — thus eliminating any hope of our taking preventive action.<br /><br />Nothing in the pending deal is worth such risks. Unless President Obama can extract significantly greater concessions at the negotiating table, Congress should refuse to lift sanctions, thereby blocking implementation of a deal that would provide Iran billions of dollars to pursue nuclear weapons and regional hegemony.<br /><br />Alan J. Kuperman is an associate professor and the coordinator of the Nuclear Proliferation Prevention Project at the University of Texas at Austin.<br /> COL Mikel J. Burroughs Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:07:29 -0400 2015-06-27T16:07:29-04:00 Response by LTC Stephen F. made Jun 27 at 2015 4:13 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774915&urlhash=774915 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="138758" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/138758-col-mikel-j-burroughs">COL Mikel J. Burroughs</a> hopefully the fatal flaw will doom the dubious alliance with Iran - even though it is limited it was foolhardy enterprise. LTC Stephen F. Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:13:46 -0400 2015-06-27T16:13:46-04:00 Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jun 27 at 2015 4:13 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774916&urlhash=774916 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sadly, the fatal flaw is one of trust. I don&#39;t trust this President. I don&#39;t trust his motivations. I don&#39;t trust his goals. I don&#39;t trust his judgment. I don&#39;t trust his methods. Now you may dismiss me as racist but my lack of trust has nothing to do with race. It&#39;s his lack of experience. His lack of a moral compass. His lack of faith in America. These are the things on which I base my lack of trust in him. CPT Jack Durish Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:13:58 -0400 2015-06-27T16:13:58-04:00 Response by LTC Ed Ross made Jun 27 at 2015 4:26 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774929&urlhash=774929 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Iran "deal" sucks. Iran will get a nuclear weapon and there will be a war in the Middle East if this deal goes through. LTC Ed Ross Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:26:03 -0400 2015-06-27T16:26:03-04:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2015 4:35 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774947&urlhash=774947 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-48916"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+of+the+Iran+Deal%E2%80%99s+Fatal+Flaw%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="fa6977f98ce95b4257b15a27fff08dcd" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/916/for_gallery_v2/ceba4413.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/916/large_v3/ceba4413.jpg" alt="Ceba4413" /></a></div></div>The Iranian connection... Why is it such a great big deal?? We have an Iranian in the house. This is her deal, I guarantee you that. This is not &quot;a deal.&quot; SGT Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:35:12 -0400 2015-06-27T16:35:12-04:00 Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jun 27 at 2015 4:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774956&urlhash=774956 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t recall where I saw this, but why don&#39;t we offer them Thorium reactor technology (as opposed to Uranium)?<br /><br />It cannot be weaponized in the same capacity, and if they accept it, it shows they want Nuclear Power for its Energy, not its Weaponry. If I am not mistaken Thorium offers several benefits including disposal (half life of waste is decades not millinia, no weaponizing), and there are active Thorium plants which have 5-20 year ages. Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:42:46 -0400 2015-06-27T16:42:46-04:00 Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Jun 27 at 2015 4:45 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=774959&urlhash=774959 <div class="images-v2-count-3"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-48917"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+of+the+Iran+Deal%E2%80%99s+Fatal+Flaw%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwhat-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think of the Iran Deal’s Fatal Flaw?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="f046aa26d94370cd617d1ddc0d1b968d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/917/for_gallery_v2/029d8473.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/917/large_v3/029d8473.jpg" alt="029d8473" /></a></div><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-2" id="image-48918"><a class="fancybox" rel="f046aa26d94370cd617d1ddc0d1b968d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/918/for_gallery_v2/698f7b78.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/918/thumb_v2/698f7b78.jpg" alt="698f7b78" /></a></div><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-3" id="image-48919"><a class="fancybox" rel="f046aa26d94370cd617d1ddc0d1b968d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/919/for_gallery_v2/ddb12a48.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/048/919/thumb_v2/ddb12a48.jpg" alt="Ddb12a48" /></a></div></div> GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:45:11 -0400 2015-06-27T16:45:11-04:00 Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Jun 27 at 2015 5:45 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=775031&urlhash=775031 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is only one deal we should offer Iran. Stop or we stop you. SFC Everett Oliver Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:45:13 -0400 2015-06-27T17:45:13-04:00 Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 27 at 2015 6:52 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=775151&urlhash=775151 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The guy just got off a strong week winning in the SCOTUS and now this gets announced. Maybe another verse of "Amazing Grace" will make this work too. MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:52:54 -0400 2015-06-27T18:52:54-04:00 Response by COL Charles Williams made Jun 27 at 2015 10:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=775535&urlhash=775535 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="138758" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/138758-col-mikel-j-burroughs">COL Mikel J. Burroughs</a> I don't like any deals with Iran... nor would I ever make one/any. I remember when President Obama was running the first time, and said he would sit in talk with our adversaries, and I realized he had no clue who he was dealing with... I am convinced either he is clueless about the evil intentions around the world, and the disdain for the US and US way of life... or that he has an ulterior motive contrary to our National Security Strategy. I will be interested to see how history records him and his reign. COL Charles Williams Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:51:43 -0400 2015-06-27T22:51:43-04:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 8:15 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-you-think-of-the-iran-deal-s-fatal-flaw?n=781871&urlhash=781871 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How do we trust a people that can't be reasoned with, I remember the 60+ people that were taken hostage during the Carter administration and thought it was the right thing to do for 444 days. They couldn't be reasoned with then and they still think the same way. Trust is not given easily, and they certainly haven't earned it. CPT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:15:53 -0400 2015-06-30T20:15:53-04:00 2015-06-27T16:07:29-04:00