Posted on Dec 15, 2015
What do you think about the US following in Israels foot steps and making it mandatory to serve two years at the age of 18?
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Personally, I think it's a GREAT idea. Once you turn 18 and if you are not a full time college student or disabled in any way etc....then both men and women should have to serve a minimum of two years.
I believe this would be great for the US...I think it will take the kids of today and tomorrow and instill some discipline into them...and maybe they'll learn humility.
It's working great for Israel and has been working for many years.
What say you RP members? Do you think this is a good idea or not?...and why?
Personally, I think it's a GREAT idea. Once you turn 18 and if you are not a full time college student or disabled in any way etc....then both men and women should have to serve a minimum of two years.
I believe this would be great for the US...I think it will take the kids of today and tomorrow and instill some discipline into them...and maybe they'll learn humility.
It's working great for Israel and has been working for many years.
What say you RP members? Do you think this is a good idea or not?...and why?
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I would support it. At least then, people would think twice about the next war they want to put "boots on the ground" for. Right now, going to war is good for "someone else" and "someone else's kids" - mandatory service would change that mentality.
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SN Greg Wright
MAJ Bryan Zeski Common sense wisdom like this is why I am glad you were doing a hypothetical in your thread, Major.
You're gosh-damned right. Suddenly Senator xxxx's daughter is being put in harm's way, that's A NO VOTE FOR WAR, where said Senator won't give a shit about YOUR daughter.
You're gosh-damned right. Suddenly Senator xxxx's daughter is being put in harm's way, that's A NO VOTE FOR WAR, where said Senator won't give a shit about YOUR daughter.
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it has been proven many times that when the need arises, Americans will answer the call. As much as I would like to see everyone benefiting from military training, I would not want to mandate it until "the need arises."
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Fantastic idea. Many countries used to have mandatory service. Until recently Germany had it. If for some reason you could not serve in the military, you had to serve in some other government capacity, like social programs. EVERYONE should be required to give back in some way to this great nation of ours.
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no ... we don't force our citizen to do anything .... that was our core belief. (sigh, too bad ... I still hope we come back to that core ...)
The world won't be better. It is just another indoctrination process for the government, so I disagree. Let people have the freedom to choose. Just like school choice, let them choose.
Israel is a different story, it is about survival.They got to have all able man to join into the fight when needed. So all able man must be trained, therefore such policy is enacted. Same with Taiwan, Singapore... that is the two that pop out from my mind.
The world won't be better. It is just another indoctrination process for the government, so I disagree. Let people have the freedom to choose. Just like school choice, let them choose.
Israel is a different story, it is about survival.They got to have all able man to join into the fight when needed. So all able man must be trained, therefore such policy is enacted. Same with Taiwan, Singapore... that is the two that pop out from my mind.
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I think that it is a good idea provided they are screened (mentally and physically), more years as 2 years is pretty easy. or else they have to spend time serving in the hospital, something that serves their local communities. Police and fire or emts as well, provided they are screened (mentally and physically)
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This is going to be a very unpopular statement; BUT HELL YA get them lazy People off the computers, XBOX, PS-4 ...get my point & put them in The Military. The AMA states the obesity among 17-25 year olds at levels never seen befor WTF
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SPC Donald Moore
SMSgt Emo McParland - The quantity of people involved is part of the problem with this suggestion and I am sad to see that you didn't think of it. Just how many personnel are we talking about if we put every 18 year old (regardless of gender) into the military?
I did a very quick Google search, I found (at the nces.ed.gov website) that the number of persons entering 9th grade in 2015 was 4.1 million. That should give us some idea how many people would be 18 years old a few years later, whether they graduate or not. If you put them in at 18 and make them spend two years, that would give you about twice that many in service at any given time. Can you imagine a military that had something like 8 MILLION personnel? What would you do with that?
To put that in some perspective, there are about 318 million people in the US (total) and the military (active only, all branches, as of 2013) was about 1.4 million.
So, if all the current personal stayed, it would bring the total military from 1.4 million to around 9 and a half MILLION.
If I did my math right, and you only paid these extra 8 MILLION people $1000 a month as a salary, it would cost the government about $96,000,000,000 a year.
Is that money well spent?
I did a very quick Google search, I found (at the nces.ed.gov website) that the number of persons entering 9th grade in 2015 was 4.1 million. That should give us some idea how many people would be 18 years old a few years later, whether they graduate or not. If you put them in at 18 and make them spend two years, that would give you about twice that many in service at any given time. Can you imagine a military that had something like 8 MILLION personnel? What would you do with that?
To put that in some perspective, there are about 318 million people in the US (total) and the military (active only, all branches, as of 2013) was about 1.4 million.
So, if all the current personal stayed, it would bring the total military from 1.4 million to around 9 and a half MILLION.
If I did my math right, and you only paid these extra 8 MILLION people $1000 a month as a salary, it would cost the government about $96,000,000,000 a year.
Is that money well spent?
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This question presents itself every few years. My view hasn't changed much in all the times i've heard it...
It may sound great - but in reality would hurt readiness and remove all pride we as veterans have in our volunteer services.
I won't go on and on, however just think about all the good soldiers and NCO's who would be relegated to babysitting shirkers, criminals and crybabies instead of fulfilling their mission.
Most of the Armies of other countries who implement mandatory service also implement corporal punishment (ex: ROK Army). They literally beat you if you don't do what is required. Our country isn't going to do that...
It may sound great - but in reality would hurt readiness and remove all pride we as veterans have in our volunteer services.
I won't go on and on, however just think about all the good soldiers and NCO's who would be relegated to babysitting shirkers, criminals and crybabies instead of fulfilling their mission.
Most of the Armies of other countries who implement mandatory service also implement corporal punishment (ex: ROK Army). They literally beat you if you don't do what is required. Our country isn't going to do that...
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I feel in doing such a thing many more folks would feel the sense of pride and service. I also feel they would learn a bit more about this great country and how fortunate they really are. If they do not serve in the Military they should have to serve in something that takes them overseas and exposes them to real life.................. maybe the Peace Corps or Doctors without borders? Just to have them see how very different life is around the world. After 2 yrs they may have a further understanding and direction they wish to go before attending college on Mom and Dads dollar only to party their cans off and blow a year of tuition away. (I had two stepsons do this in college, now they are doing awesome. Just cost me a fortune though lolol).
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I say hell yeah. It will weed out the hero's from the cowards. It would decrease crime, gun volience, and retort respect.
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1LT (Join to see)
Do you have any metrics to prove that veterans have lower rates of crime, gun violence, and respect as compared to the civilian population?
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SSG Michael Scott
Look at some of the other European countries. The country of Holland, it was required for all men to serve 2 yrs in thr military forces, or go to jail. Women could volunteer if they wanted to. Because of this duty, the Dutch Commando Army had a great decrease in crime rate, no homeless vets, the vets had jobs, and no suscide rate either. How do I know this, I was in Holland, and had the honor of serving with the Dutch Commando Army. It was not rocket science. The General of the Dutch Commando Army said, For once, tell your president to stop getting g into everybody s business, and take care of your own for once, because, that is what Holland did.
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It won't help. All the well to do entitled, whiny kids that truly need military service will just pull a Bush and end up in the Air Guard to avoid any actual service...
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