CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6148212 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Pet peeve. Marksmanship. <br /><br />How is it for promotion packets for E5 and E6, that Marksmanship and APFT carry the SAME point weight relative to the soldiers weapon qual or APFT scores but we will run the soldier into the ground for poor APFT and treat marksmanship as GO, or NO-GO, and not even really care there is no current weapon qual on record. I have never flagged a soldier for not having a current qual score. <br /><br />However, when it comes to promotions for Jr. NCO&#39;s they carry the same weight per the points allocation. 2020-07-27T20:03:31-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6148212

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Pet peeve. Marksmanship. <br /><br />How is it for promotion packets for E5 and E6, that Marksmanship and APFT carry the SAME point weight relative to the soldiers weapon qual or APFT scores but we will run the soldier into the ground for poor APFT and treat marksmanship as GO, or NO-GO, and not even really care there is no current weapon qual on record. I have never flagged a soldier for not having a current qual score. <br /><br />However, when it comes to promotions for Jr. NCO&#39;s they carry the same weight per the points allocation.

2020-07-27T20:03:31-04:00 2020-07-27T20:03:31-04:00 SPC Nancy Greene 6148232

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Excellent point 1LT Richard Lesher!<br />I knew many a Soldier whose records were ‘flagged’ fir bolo APFT scores and had barely qualified on their M16A1...I was always in a unit which stressed the importance of both! I qualified with my M16A1 every 6 months, same as mandatory APFT.

2020-07-27T20:08:32-04:00 2020-07-27T20:08:32-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 6148513

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a solid question. PT is an everyday event and going to the range happens twice a year for most units. I would say that this is perhaps the reason why.

2020-07-27T21:35:34-04:00 2020-07-27T21:35:34-04:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 6148535

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It takes minimal planning a resources to run soldiers everyday. Planning a range takes time and resources. In general, people tend to take the path of least resistance. Not saying it’s right, but that’s just how humans are wired.

2020-07-27T21:44:21-04:00 2020-07-27T21:44:21-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6148663

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can&#39;t speak for the rest of the Army but that is not the case in infantry units. Fort Bragg has a qual range that runs three days every week to get Paratroopers qualified. We make sure that all of the Paratroopers we get to the unit have a current qualification. For us a Paratrooper can&#39;t go into a live fire and that is a unit readiness issue. I would honestly ask why your unit is treating it this way. When I was in the guard weapon quals were hard to come by and were only performed at AT.

2020-07-27T22:16:31-04:00 2020-07-27T22:16:31-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 6148874

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So it’s funny. I just completed a study in my division in which I incorporated tons of soldier measurement data to determine the biggest predictors of Soldier “success” (as defined by some factors agreed along by the enlisted leadership) and the number one predictor was weapons proficiency.

2020-07-27T23:14:11-04:00 2020-07-27T23:14:11-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 6148921

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because you can PT on your own time and it’s free. It takes resources, money, and dedicated training area to train marksmanship. Basically, failing marksmanship is a failure on unit training, failing PT is a lack of motivation on the Soldier.

2020-07-27T23:35:15-04:00 2020-07-27T23:35:15-04:00 SSG David Kaelin 6152088

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Lazy leadership.<br /><br />It&#39;s an easy way to falsely evaluate people.

2020-07-28T18:56:23-04:00 2020-07-28T18:56:23-04:00 2020-07-27T20:03:31-04:00