What can we realistically do after someone sees something and says something?

Sgt Jeffrey Clish — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:58:49 -0400

After the most recent shooting, I got into a debate with my colleague about the root cause of all these shootings. One thing that keeps standing out is that there is a long history of indicators leading up to the event. Folks interviewed afterwards that say he spoke about such and such, he was interviewed and release without cause, he always talked about doing bad things, etc. Many of these were reported, but nothing substantive seemed to come of it. Granted each report in and of itself may not rise to the level of concern, but the collective reports should. How can we use this "See something, say something" program as the initiator of a real intervention system? Creative thoughts preferred...

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2016 5:01 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:01:20 -0400

In regards to?

Response by Sgt Jeffrey Clish made Jun 14 at 2016 5:02 PM

Sgt Jeffrey Clish — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:02:57 -0400

Response by Sgt Jeffrey Clish made Jun 14 at 2016 5:13 PM

Sgt Jeffrey Clish — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:13:45 -0400

One solution an intel buddy of mine posed was a website where folks, average citizens, could fill out a form or something to report someone they are concerned about. This website fuses these reports with other forms of intel to draw out individuals that are of growing interest. Then the local law enforcement/mental health groups can focus their attention on people that are showing signs of going off the rails and intervene. This may require exceptions or modifications to existing laws, but might work. Making so that law enforcement and health officials are not constrained by privacy laws when a clear and present danger exists backed by "See Something, Say Something" reports. Thoughts?

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 14 at 2016 5:16 PM

PO1 John Miller — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:16:28 -0400

People today "don't want to get involved."

Response by CW5 Andrew J. Foreman made Jun 14 at 2016 5:31 PM

CW5 Andrew J. Foreman — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:31:09 -0400

It is the bystander syndrome. Meaning I do nothing because I am sure someone else will do something.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jun 14 at 2016 6:04 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:04:38 -0400

The problem I see with the "See something, say something" concept is perhaps it could lead to a society like Nazi Germany, the USSR, and Red China, where a "citizen's" duty is to report on their neighbors, regardless the infraction.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 9:23 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:23:06 -0400

I am not up to date on "big brother" technology, but I would assume there would be something to track this. I feel that every time a report is made about something even talking about carrying out a mass shooting or other terroristic threat, a file should be made immediately and every time a further indicator is noticed it sets off an alarm. I have seen a lot of interviews with the girlfriend, parents, etc...and they all saw this coming. It is crazy to think that nobody in the F.B.I. or any other government agency didn't see this coming. There needs to be a centralized system that everyone with a need to know can access to link certain individuals with these types of indicators, and they should be monitored. Yes, I know that would take a lot of man power, but wouldn't that just create more jobs? Hire a bunch of desk working vets, I am sure they would all love to stake out possible terrorists, I know I would.