What are your thoughts on Oath Keepers, Three Percenters and other "patriot" groups?

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:57:31 -0400

I have had limited experience with the Oath Keepers asking folks to join at local gun shows or out at the poker runs here in Vegas. Just wondering what people thought.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2014 2:33 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:33:19 -0400

I have read criticism of these groups by other groups who are supposed to be looking out for the rights of all (SPLC, ADL). Although I don't know much about Oath Keepers or Three Percenters, I can definitely see why others would be afraid of the potential for home grown violence that might be perpetrated by factions of these groups.

If they follow the law of the land, they should be okay (in my book). The perceived problem is likely that they attract people who might not be so careful about following the law of the land and might have a tendency to want to be violent. Whether that criticism is valid, I don't know. But you know what they say about perception being reality ...

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Mar 5 at 2015 2:58 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:58:06 -0500

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member, I understand that the Three Percenter movement was started by Mike Vanderboegh. He summarizes the doctrine of the Three Percent thus: "The Three Percent are the citizens the Founders counted on to save the Republic when everyone else abandoned it. And we will. There will be no more free Wacos and no more free Katrinas. For we are the Three Percent. We will not disarm. You cannot convince us. You cannot intimidate us. You can kill us, if you think you can. But remember, we’ll shoot back. We are not going away. We are not backing up another inch. And there are THREE MILLION OF US. The next move, if any, is up to the aspiring tyrants among the domestic enemies of the Constitution." from http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/06/a-brief-three-percent-catechism.html
It identifies with the 3% of the population that were actively engaged in fighting the British at any given time during the Revolutionary War.
It is not an aggressive movement. It's more like a porcupine that won't be driven back any more: if you try to push it any farther, you're going to feel those needles.

Oath Keepers was founded by Stewart Rhodes, a Yale law school graduate and former paratrooper, on Lexington Green, April 19, 2009. It is "a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders" dedicated to keeping the oath to defend the Constitution. Specifically, there are ten orders that Oath Keepers deems would violate the oath if obeyed. They therefore resolve the following:

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people. 
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people .
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal. 
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state. 
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty. 
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
 7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext. 
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control." 
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies. 
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Long version available at http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/

I think that both the Three Percenter movement and the Oath Keepers organization are well-intentioned, admirable, patriotic, and law-abiding groups.

Oath Keepers organized armed security (volunteers who brought their own gear) during the Ferguson riots for small businesses (mostly minority-owned) who couldn't afford to pay a security company. Their efforts were effective.

Sipsey Street Irregulars: A Brief Three Percent Catechism -- A discipline not for the...

Thank you, Mike. This is important. Especially considering the current regime's recent use of the term in their own psyops.

Response by Ray Gross made Aug 2 at 2020 6:59 PM

Ray Gross — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:59:10 -0400

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