What are your thoughts about the recent student marches for removal of college staff, free college and debt forgiveness?

2015-11-13T06:30:08-05:00

Response by TSgt David L. made Nov 13 at 2015 6:35 AM

2015-11-13T06:35:07-05:00

I think that if folks legitimately are owed something, then march away. The fact someone yelled a racial slur does NOT require the removal of a college president, however.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Nov 13 at 2015 6:50 AM

2015-11-13T06:50:39-05:00

Who do these students expect to pay for their college and forgive their debt, and how do they expect to learn how to survive in the real world where nothing is free?

I actually just saw a Fox News clip concerning this:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/11/12/cavuto-interviews-college-protest-organizer-one-percent-can-afford-cover-free-tuition

Protest Organizer: The 1% Can Afford to Cover Free Tuition, Loan Forgiveness

College students across the country are protesting student loan debt, arguing that public university tuition should be free.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Nov 13 at 2015 9:15 AM

2015-11-13T09:15:04-05:00

Removal of college staff: These are some of the ways labor workers go on strike, these are also some of the ways individuals go to get things done. I may not support the cause, but I support the action.

Free College: I do believe in somewhat of free education, at least for community colleges, and am willing to pay a little extra in taxes to support that. At the same time, the cost of college I believe should be lowered by a little bit. Books are ridiculously expensive as well. I used to be able to find books for cheap on 3rd party websites instead of buying from the school, however schools are now requiring special access cards, CDs, etc to make more money, which I don't mind, but I don't want to spend $400 on a textbook. I am complaining less than other students because my GI Bill is helping me out, but had it not been for that, I would not receive a full college education until I am 35+.

Debt Forgiveness: You have bills to pay, pay them. Although I'm not too fond of the grace period you get while you're in school. While you do not owe anything, and don't have to pay anything while in school, the interest racks of at a ridiculous rate. That I do not support.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2015 10:09 AM

2015-11-13T10:09:14-05:00

This shows you that ignorance shows no bounds. How about fix the VA, the Military Medical System, Fire Tricare, and ensure Veterans Benefits are not going to be destroyed.

Most students have never read the Constitution, much less have a basic knowledge of their actual rights. They are told by morons what to beleive and how to believe.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Nov 13 at 2015 10:28 AM

2015-11-13T10:28:54-05:00

I think the whole thing is a set up. Not that everyone and everything involved is fake, just that the conditions for trouble are being developed for a reason. It reminds me of the "sudden" groundswell of outrage that resulted in the Arab Spring (of course it took years of careful planning in the background to get it to spontaneously occur). Fortunately for us, America's well fed and overstimulated youth are more interested in their next text message and feeling good about themselves than long term commitment to a cause. You can get most of them to march in protest by telling them it will make them feel good about themselves, but that's about the end of their dedication. I see a direct link between the Ferguson riots, to the Black Lives Matters protests, to the current political correctness nonsense on college campus's, and the free college tuition idiocy. It's all just riling people up so they will remember to vote for the candidate that "promises" to give them what they want. I have a suspicion that similar issues will pop up every 1-3 months until the 2016 elections are over.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 13 at 2015 11:29 AM

2015-11-13T11:29:17-05:00

They are idiots if they thing all that stuff is free. It's like putting their debt for these costs on a giant credit card that never expires and they make payments on it for the rest of their lives. It is called the National Debt. 6% of all tax revenues are paid out each year by those that have taxable incomes. Guess what you unappreciative little a--holes, you Will be paying for it. This is worse than student loan debt, you can actually pay off the student loans.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2015 12:55 PM

2015-11-13T12:55:15-05:00

Honestly, I could care less. They are irrelevant in my life. College debt will never be forgiven, Sanders free college will never come around because someone will have to pay for it. Keep marching clowns, no one is listening.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 13 at 2015 3:20 PM

2015-11-13T15:20:13-05:00

They are cute economic and educational revolutionaries. When Joe public finds out the financial burden is on him and his family, the Revolution will lose support.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 19 at 2015 1:31 PM

2015-11-19T13:31:59-05:00

They have no clue how to pay for the tuition, just off the top of my head $400 billion a year. Either we pay significantly more taxes or steal money from other programs, both are poison pills.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2016 7:27 AM

2016-04-01T07:27:06-04:00

Perhaps too many adults have had a affect.

I will not even try to count the times I have read that someone thinks they should not have to pay back the money they borrowed.

Predatory loan? How many people have been loaned money without applying for it?

Response by SSgt Boyd Welch made Apr 1 at 2016 8:36 AM

2016-04-01T08:36:37-04:00

Make them work their way through college unless they have earned their way through military service. If they are working they have less time to think up B.S. If they have served, I believe they are less inclined to follow the "shifting wind..."

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Apr 6 at 2017 4:58 PM

2017-04-06T16:58:28-04:00

One of the problems is lack of jobs. We were in England on vacation and getting ready to pass world-famous/world-reknowned Oxford University. My college-age teen upon hearing "look, there it is" had a puzzled look on her face. "Dad...where's the stadium?" No college sports in Europe. With college sports in the USA a lot of colleges have to have skyrocketing tuition. Additionally, a European college graduate can actually get a job. Whereas in the USA, your choices are limited unless you want to sit on a help desk answering phone calls. And while I did that for a living, I didn't pay $150000 to learn how to do it, right? I don't have a college loan.

So while a bailout seems oh so millenial, where would they have got that attitude from? Lets see...we - their parents - bailed out banks, insurance companies and the Detroit big 3 right? So why not a bail out for everyone? Yeah - at one point ya gotta say "WTF" but then at the same time, the kids have a point. Or more to the point - "you told me to go to college. Work said they couldn't/wouldn't hire me without college. Now I have a debt and no job to work to pay the debt off." Its truly a catch-22.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2017 9:28 PM

2017-04-06T21:28:05-04:00

Well its tough because its a rigged game. If the federal government was out of education and true capitalism where to take charge it would change the costs, as well as if we changed our outlook on trade jobs and apprentices. With all that said prices would not be so high, but having said that, nothing is free and they need to grow up.