What are your thoughts about Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump winning the New Hampshire Primary?

LTC Stephen F. — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:28:08 -0500

The results are still pouring in from the New hampshire primary. However, it seems clear that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders won handily in their respective party primaries. While this is not surprising based on polling over the past couple months, it has ruffled some feathers. With only two candidates in the Democratic party it seems pretty straightforward right now.
[Update 1540 EST 10 February 2016] It seems that Governor Christie and Carly Fiorina have dropped out of the race for POTUS nomination.
http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-new-hampshire-results/
Republican Primary Results, Last updated: 12:10 PM, 100% reporting 300/300 precincts [Democrat results below]
Leader Votes Pct.
1. Donald TRUMP 100,406 35.3%
2. John KASICH 44,909 15.8%
3. Ted CRUZ 33,189 11.7%
4. Jeb BUSH 31,310 11%
5. Marco RUBIO 30,032 10.6%
6. Chris CHRISTIE 21,069 7.4%
7. Carly FIORINA 11,706 4.1%
8. Ben CARSON 6,509 2.3%
OTHER 4,990 1.8%
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY Last updated: 12:10 PM 100% reporting
300/300 precincts
Leader Votes Pct.
1. Bernie SANDERS 151,584 60.4%
2. Hillary CLINTON 95,252 38%
OTHER 4,147 1.7%
"Bernie Sanders defeated Hillary Clinton by winning the southeastern urban areas she carried in 2008"

Live results from the 2016 New Hampshire primary

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Response by SGT John " Mac " McConnell made Feb 9 at 2016 10:31 PM

SGT John " Mac " McConnell — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:31:01 -0500

A scary thought ! LTC Stephen F.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Feb 9 at 2016 10:32 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:32:03 -0500

I was not surprised by the results. I am thankful that Hillary Rodham Clinton did not win. I think that if Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee he will certainly be a much more interesting candidate.
As far as the Republican ticket I am not a Donald Trump supporter. I prefer a conservative governor from a state between the coasts. That possibility seems to be evaporating.
[Update 2/11/2016] I will, need to reevaluate Governor Kasich's positions on the issues. He meets one of my criteria since he is a governor from a central state [not on the coast] who successfully worked with legislators from both parties.
2nd since the Republican Convention will be held in Cleveland he may have a home field advantage if he survives past the first ballot. LTC Kevin B. CPT Mike Seals

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 10:33 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:33:53 -0500

Hate talking politics, but what I see happening.
A. Clinton campaign is about to have a MAJOR meltdown. Don't think they'll recover and that's that.
B. The Republican candadites will continue with the 2nd grade mentality with the name calling etc, and not get anything accomplished.

So nothing new or good will come of it.

Response by LTC Kevin B. made Feb 9 at 2016 10:48 PM

LTC Kevin B. — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:48:47 -0500

Not surprised by the winners. I am happy to see Kasich doing well. I hope he can sustain it. I'm not excited about any of the other candidates, on either side of the aisle.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Feb 9 at 2016 11:00 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:00:12 -0500

LTC Stephen F. After observing Sanders speaking tonite, Feb 9, I have concluded that he is preaching the same hope and promise premise of everything for everyone that voters heard 8 years ago. This is the first time I have listened to Sanders. "Nuf", I will not do that any more. OUT!

Response by SFC Justin Scott made Feb 9 at 2016 11:36 PM

SFC Justin Scott — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:36:06 -0500

Nothing to see here. This was predictable and meaningless in this race.

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made Feb 10 at 2016 12:28 AM

Sgt Jay Jones — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:28:58 -0500

I think neither one will be on the Ballot in November. I am very pleased to see Kasich do well. He is the only viable and electable candidate in my opinion. The rest of the bag of nuts are very disappointing.

Response by CW4 Brian Haas made Feb 10 at 2016 12:32 AM

CW4 Brian Haas — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:32:36 -0500

I just don't wast more Clinton!!!

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Feb 10 at 2016 5:17 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:17:34 -0500

Last night Lawrence O'Donnell at MSNBC said the most interesting thing I have heard relating to politics ever. Hillary Clinton's poll numbers have NEVER increased. When she won the senate seat in New York (bad New Yorkers - bad bad!) her poll numbers were 67%. They were 67% the day of the election. In her two national campaigns her numbers have started at X and then dwindled.

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Feb 10 at 2016 5:42 AM

PO1 Kerry French — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:42:55 -0500

My thoughts include too many Sailor words... the four letter type

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Feb 10 at 2016 6:37 AM

PO2 Mark Saffell — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:37:53 -0500

Knew HRC would feel the Bern...But 22% is Big Time. Wasn't happy that Trump got so many votes. Still don't think he is Presidential.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 7:33 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:33:29 -0500

That is the expect result .... but sure wish a different outcome ....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 8:16 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:16:03 -0500

It is scary how much of a gap Bernie took the primary from Clinton. I'm okay with Trump getting it I don't like his comments at all about Senator McCain's POW time and status, that was ridiculously demeaning however I'm pretty sure he was just pissing people off to get more attention, and not really meaning that POW's are horrible military members. I think he didn't think that comment all the way through before he spoke, and on his standards of not apologizing, it makes it hard to verbally back track. I do think he owes some sort of apology, and I hope he will make up for that comment though some sort of pro-military action that does wonders for the military.

Anyways off my soap-box. I do prefer Kasich over Trump, but I do think he is aggressive enough to tell people (bad guys, terrorists, horrible countries) to f-off and wipe them out. I do admire Trump's aggressiveness, and it reminds me of Regan's aggressiveness.

I think of all the Democrat, Republican and Independent candidates, I think that ISIS, N. Korea, and Iran would fear Trump the most. Mostly because of his aggression and willingness to conquer and destroy them at any means necessary. Also tied into that is that I don't think is Foreign Policy and Military Leadership is the best, but I think he is smart enough to put the right people in the right positions and then take their advice. He and Carly Fiorina both have great CEO/high-level Manger experience, and they know what they don't know, and they know that they should have the right people in the right places to make the right calls at the right time. (definitely not H.Clinton as Secretary of State)

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Feb 10 at 2016 8:29 AM

SPC Andrew Griffin — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:29:35 -0500

I personally pretty much expected it!

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Feb 10 at 2016 8:40 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:40:49 -0500

Response by SGT William Howell made Feb 10 at 2016 8:46 AM

SGT William Howell — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:46:48 -0500

My thoughts???? NH is a state of idiots.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Feb 10 at 2016 8:47 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:47:59 -0500

“Trump won men, women, every age group, every ideology, people who had and people who had not gone to college, and every single age bracket. And he won those groups by huge margins," Philip Bump writes. "Men, 3-to-1 over the second-place finisher. Women, 2-to-1. Voters under 30, 2-to-1. Nearly 4-in-10 of those who hadn't attended college -- but also a third of those who had.” - WashPo

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 9:03 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:03:12 -0500

I think it is a reflection of Americans becoming tired of "establishment" candidates (though I could make a case that SEN. Sanders is an establishment candidate). However, no matter how tired Americans are with "establishment" candidates - they'll continue to vote for the two party system.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 9:05 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:05:03 -0500

GO Bernie and no TRUMP !!

Response by Sgt Jude Eden made Feb 10 at 2016 9:10 AM

Sgt Jude Eden — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:10:59 -0500

Ugh.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Feb 10 at 2016 9:24 AM

MSgt James Mullis — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:24:08 -0500

It genuinely doesn't matter who won New Hampshire or Iowa. In the end, it comes down to simple math: The candidates who secure a simple majority of their parties’ delegates + superdelegates (party insiders) wins the party's nomination. The current Delegate count makes my point:

Democrats: * Hillary Clinton: 394 * Bernie Sanders: 42 * Not yet allocated: 4,327

Republicans: * Donald Trump: 17 * Ted Cruz: 10 * Marco Rubio: 7 *John Kasich: 4 * Jeb Bush: 3 * Ben Carson: 3 * Carly Fiorina: 1 * Rand Paul: 1 * Not yet allocated: 2,426

Note how far ahead Hillary is at this point despite the popular vote. That's because she has 350 Superdelegates who have publicly declared their votes for her. FYI: There are a total of 952 Democratic Superdelegates so whoever wins the party insiders vote will win the nomination. It's the same for the Republicans except they have not released who their Superdelegates are supporting. I'm guessing that most of the Superdelegate votes will go for Bush.

Response by LTC David Brown made Feb 10 at 2016 9:33 AM

LTC David Brown — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:33:44 -0500

This is interesting. Sanders isn't as squeaky clean as thought. Trump has liberal tendencies. The most important issue is going to be appointments for the Supreme Court. I would like Cruz because he would insure conservative justices.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 9:55 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:55:29 -0500

Until this country rids itself of the bipartisan politics, nothing will truly ever get done to make things better. And sadly, that will never happen, therefore it becomes a vote for the candidate who won't mess things up even worse over the next 4 years. At this stage, I really have no idea who that will be. My early favorite from the GOP got pummeled this weekend at the debates and appears to have lost his momentum. Rubio isn't going to get the bid, unfortunately.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 10:32 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:32:06 -0500

I think that the also-rans need to get out of the GOP race so that the party can get serious about a real candidate. The serious vote is divided four ways, so it is impossible for those candidates to rise to the top. When this is a three horse race, things will come into much better focus, and I suspect the winner would not be the current front-runner.

Response by Sgt Mike Williams made Feb 10 at 2016 11:27 AM

Sgt Mike Williams — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:27:28 -0500

I think it speaks to the pop culture that the majority of our society is migrating to. The American Sheeple are no longer bothered with knowledge, research, and thoughtful consideration of the issues. Whichever candidate gets the most press or has the best one liner/catch phrases and tells the people what sounds good in the moment seems to win the day. Not surprised in least that these results turned out this way. I cannot get onboard with Sanders' self professed socialist agenda and, I will not support someone on the Republican ticket that carries himself the way Trump does. I am truly disgusted that this is the current state of our politics.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Feb 10 at 2016 11:39 AM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:39:27 -0500

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 12:39 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:39:48 -0500

The biggest mistake anyone can make is to believe either of these gents aren't wily old foxes that know their "base". Trump didn't end up one of the world's most recognized business leaders by shooting from the hip...and Sanders is probably about as "socialist" as my grandmother. Trump knows the Republican base can't win an election on their own...traditionally, we need the moderates. But the moderates aren't going to vote alongside GOP "platform" issues. Therefore, Trump is creating a new supplemental base-the hacked off conservative who hasn't been excited about a national election since the end of the Carter administration. To do that, he has to go "full bore" against social issues...and gloss over economic and foreign issues by saying, "Yeah, yeah...well...I'll sort all that out..when I get those pinko, communist *&^%%$ out of DC!"...and the crowd goes wild.

Sanders isn't any different.

He knows that Hillary has gone too far, and looks too fake to drive the far-left base anymore. They want something "else"...they want radical anti-capitalism...they'll settle for "communism lite" because they can't re-elect Barry, and even if they could, they're all wondering why they don't have hydroponic vending machines yet. The truth is, Bernie knows that if he sells the idea of a "new deal" to the working classes, and the "Brave New World" to the young intelligencia...no one's going to press him too hard on foreign policy or the social issues that could lose him the moderate vote.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Feb 10 at 2016 3:28 PM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:28:37 -0500

NH Vote totals:

100% in:
Bernie 151,584
Trump 100,406
Hillary 95,252
Kasich 44,909
Cruz 33,189
Jeb 31,310
Rubio 30,032

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 4:57 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:57:06 -0500

LTC Kevin B. Don't you think it's about time to unblock me? Whatever happened is long gone, and 2016 is a new year. Keith

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 5:03 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:03:31 -0500

LTC Stephen F., I wasn't surprised by Trump, but I was by Sanders. There is still a long way to go and anyone of them can turn the tide. Interesting note about Bernie Sanders. He's the first Jew to win a primary. I'll take him over Clinton any day. I'm concerned about the GOP side. I'm pulling for John Kasich to begin picking up points. I'm still out on Bloomberg running as an independent, if he does. That about wraps up my political side. (-:

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Feb 10 at 2016 9:02 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:02:17 -0500

Just too bad every state's primary isn't held on the same day so all this crap is over, down and dirty!! If it was, then people would have to make up their own minds instead of being influenced by others. Good thing Rotten Clinton didn't win. I just sent in my primary vote: Trump

Response by SGT Forrest Stewart made Feb 11 at 2016 8:08 AM

SGT Forrest Stewart — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:08:48 -0500

Bernie Sanders is a far better choice than Hillary. However, I won't vote for either of them. I don't much care for Donald Trump's arrogant attitude and rude mouth. Other people do and I fully realize it's not all about me. Cruz is a much more desirable candidate.

The majority of the people will get what they choose. I pray they choose wisely. I'm trying to...

Response by A1C Melissa Jackson made Feb 11 at 2016 2:16 PM

A1C Melissa Jackson — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:16:51 -0500

I think that it is notable that Bernie took the votes in NH that Hillary had locked up in 2008- the blue collar regions. People who really WORK for a living are tired of the rich boy oligarchy beating them down and making it difficult to just get by- much less have a comfortable middle class existence.

I think Bernie is the man to watch in this election. He is resonating with more of "the regular folks" than is currently apparent. The "socialist" tag is not scaring people away like it would have done 2-3 decades ago.

I think he might just surprise us all.

Trump? My GOD. He is a horror. If he had even a grain of tact and sense of "appropriate" he might have more appeal, but he is a total jackass. Throwing baby tantrums about a debate moderator who called him on his shit? Give me a BREAK.

Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Feb 12 at 2016 5:32 PM

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:32:21 -0500

LTC Stephen F. I still thinks it's too early on the race to tell what that means - it may mean that the majority of people in this country are tired of the normal politician and what they have become lately. I just find it very interesting!