We have technology to rule the world but fail at protecting our own borders from terrorism and illegal immigrant. Why?

PO2 Morton Scisco — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:12:40 -0500

Are we living in the dark ages that we need permission from "a ruler" to protect from intruders into our country? Are we going to build a castle wall to block Mexico? They can still go to Canada then come back down. Are we going to build another wall for the Canadian-Mexican invasion? I say let their employers fill out their workers information, the government just take a higher percentage of their wage since they aren't legal citizens. Make it a profitable choice to be legal citizens or charge employers higher fines for illegal immigrants. If the government just gives them aid for not finding work, we are the fools.

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Jan 21 at 2016 9:14 PM

PV2 Scott Goodpasture — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:14:29 -0500

Can you say liberals and greedy corporations seeking cheap labor?

Response by SPC James Harsh made Jan 21 at 2016 9:18 PM

SPC James Harsh — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:18:47 -0500

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the big drones not to 'shoot' but for the 'eyes in the sky'. They could definitely be of 'use'. I always thought that when I see the articles about fear of drones and that if they were used on the border to find smugglers at least it would be better than big brother stuff.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 21 at 2016 9:49 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:49:48 -0500

We think the ME is a greater threat.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2016 10:27 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:27:47 -0500

Simple, you can deal easily with technology.. It's just 0's and 1's. However, human are unpredictable.

Then, people tend to blame illegal immigrants for "taking America's jobs", but let's be honest, do you want to pay your orange juice $5 or $25?
I find it pretty hypocrite to recognize capitalism as a mode of sustainment. It's true that we have an issue on immigration, but taxing them doesn't help solve the problem. Most of them only work for a ridiculous wage, are we going to push them to pay to work? I ain't saying it's not the employer fault, but commerce goes both way: you need someone to sell, and somebody else to buy. Too sad we're continuously buying.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2016 1:03 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:03:31 -0500

If you want to stop illegal immigration, the best way to do it is with a soft wall.
Go after the employers with fines scalable by number of employees on the payroll, but don't stop there. Fine the hiring managers that knowingly hire illegals in order to get cheaper wages.

For example, Company A, a meat-packing plant, is fount to have 18 illegal workers among 200.
Fine the company $18,000, and the hiring manger(s) $1,800.
A smaller company, like a orange farm, has 25 illegal among 60 employees. They get fined $5,000 and the hiring manager $2,500.
I'll bet the problem gets solved real quick when the hiring guys get hit in the pocketbook.

The companion part of my plan would be to have a worker's permit of sorts that you have to register to get... and pay taxes. When the time is up - say 5 years or so - you go home and reapply or have taken the steps necessary to become a legal resident or citizen.
Fair. Even-handed. And solves the problem.
Vote for me... I'll freaking fix it.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jan 22 at 2016 1:59 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:59:47 -0500

PO2 Morton Scisco, the problem isn't so much illegal immigrants as it is the terrorists and gang-bangers that come in with them.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jan 22 at 2016 2:04 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:04:58 -0500

Comment posted in wrong thread.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2016 7:48 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:48:16 -0500

... many politician wanted the votes...

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jan 22 at 2016 9:53 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:53:12 -0500

Because human nature trumps (no pun intended) technology.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made May 1 at 2019 8:20 AM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Wed, 01 May 2019 08:20:19 -0400

Back some time ago the CIA /NSA were operating in our own nation against certain citizens that were suspected by FBI of Very Nefarious doings that may involve some type of terrorism... but couldn’t use U.S. Citizens, So Canadians were doing the monitoring so to not violate constitutional rights. The courts stated they still could not use the ‘fruit of the poison tree or bush’ even if obtained by an Allie. And the notes just happened to fall in our people’s hands.. by some source.. These are dangerous people true.. whether they are citizens or not they have to be provided the protection of our constitution. Especially our own citizens. Well.. i’m Sure the alledged ‘real’ foreign agents cheered that decision. .. and the traitorous americans(?)... you all know as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.. and then there are some domestic American citizen terrorists that the Fed court said Could not be sent to because they were citizens.. prisons are full of bad people ... but are a traitors, domestic terrorists worse? I say pretty much, there was a chance that what they done could’ve caused death.. whether at the scene or by a traitor giving national secrets related to our safety/security on our own shores..
These types can only deserve the worst of human comfort.. dank musty cell with a piece of cardboard to cover the springs and a bucket and a pan.. of course our country is too compassionate to do that.. Our constitution demands it..