Was it unethical for the AP to declare Hillary Clinton the nominee the day prior to the primaries?

CW5 Andrew J. Foreman — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:16:35 -0400

The AP, after calling the undeclared Super-delegates, declared HRC the Dem nominee the day before six states voted in their primary elections. This included California and New Jersey. This sent a clear message to Sanders supporters that it was not worth voting cause he had lost.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-ahead-of-california-primary/

Clinton has enough delegates to clinch nomination, AP reports

LOS ANGELES — Striding into history, Hillary Clinton will become the first woman to top the presidential ticket of a major U.S. political party.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jun 8 at 2016 10:18 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:18:08 -0400

It is considering Super Delegate votes still haven't come into effect.

Response by SFC Pete Kain made Jun 8 at 2016 10:21 AM

SFC Pete Kain — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:21:18 -0400

Ethics and the PRESSS. LOL
May as look for a hooker with morals.

Response by SSG Pete Fleming made Jun 8 at 2016 10:22 AM

SSG Pete Fleming — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:22:07 -0400

Well, that was just to sway votes. They screwed her 8 years ago so this time they will support her, even if they have to wipe every server in America.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 10:23 AM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:23:49 -0400

CW5 Andrew J. Foreman , at this point I would say it doesn't matter. I would say that 3 weeks ago it didn't matter. The Dems decided long ago that Bernie would not be their representative, he just refused to admit it.

Response by SP5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 10:25 AM

SP5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:25:12 -0400

CW5 Andrew J. Foreman Press and ethics have become mutually exclusive terms. Whatever sells their ad time is what they will present. True across the media spectrum.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Jun 8 at 2016 10:27 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:27:19 -0400

The most important part, and taken for granted, are the American voters/taxpayers. There are some people who want a female CIC so badly they are willing to accept anyone with their bull line.

Response by CPO Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols made Jun 8 at 2016 10:34 AM

CPO Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:34:59 -0400

Unethical and deliberate.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jun 8 at 2016 10:47 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:47:13 -0400

As Bernie said, "The fix is in." Dead man walking (and talking). He is cutting his staff by half, guess that means a deal was made or he gets to assist in developing the DNC platform. Of course, AP did this to influence the vote, and it worked.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jun 8 at 2016 10:55 AM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:55:50 -0400

This highlights the very reason I dislike the primary system as it now stands. It has been pretty obvious for some time now that Clinton would get the necessary numbers to gain the nomination. I voted in our primary yesterday although I knew what the results would eventually be. Many of my neighbors did not.
I know the States have control of the system, but I would prefer to see all States have their primaries on the same day. That would end this sort of problem.

Response by SFC Robert Bower made Jun 8 at 2016 10:58 AM

SFC Robert Bower — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 10:58:30 -0400

God I hate her.....Big mouth money hungry Crooked Hillary!

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Jun 8 at 2016 11:08 AM

SSG Carlos Madden — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:08:31 -0400

No. They are a private news organization, not a government entity. They are accountable to nothing other than their profit margins. Plus no matter what the AP said, doesn't make her the nominee. Finally, news organizations have polls and analysts whose job is to predict these kinds of things. Every news organization predicts the winners prior to any election so its not unethical - it's common practice. If we waited until the polls closed and all the votes were counted it could take weeks to declare a winner.

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Jun 8 at 2016 11:09 AM

SPC Andrew Griffin — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:09:34 -0400

It wasn't UNETHICAL! They feelings are just hurt! Give her, her Due!

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jun 8 at 2016 11:11 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:11:58 -0400

Define "unethical" as it applies to politics. That seems to be a moving target, doesn't it? The shenanigans of this year's crop of presidential contenders make them appear to be doing the Limbo compared to Nixon and the Watergate burglars who were dancing a Lindy Hop.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 11:35 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:35:07 -0400

Bernie Sanders never had a chance, the Liberial media in general has no supported him, the democratic party bosses have schemed against him. Obama has used his powers over the DOJ and such to help Clinton out by delaying things and make stuff disappear. So yes it was unethical, and this super delegate thing is just totally rigged anyway.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 11:42 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:42:15 -0400

Yawn. Nothing unethical about it. The press did the same thing with Trump, announcing he hit the threshhold near the end of May by counting uncommitted delegates who came out and said they would vote for Trump. Because if you want to get technical, the other repub candidates didn't end their campaigns, just suspended them. So since Trump hadn't actually won enough pledged delegates to win the nomination outright, did the RNC and press do something unethical by announcing Trump was the presumptive candidate before the uncommitted delegates actually voted at the convention? Of course not.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/26/politics/donald-trump-has-delegates-to-clinch-gop-nomination/

It's amazing to me how right wingers will twist reality into pretzels trying to make routine things look sinister and unethical. "The fix is in! The press is manipulating the elections!" Ignoring the fact that Hillary campaigned and won the popular votes by millions and the pledged delegates by hundreds. Take away all the super delegates and she still is the nominee.

Donald Trump has delegates to clinch GOP nomination

Donald Trump has the delegates to clinch the GOP presidential nomination, according to a CNN delegate count Thursday.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 11:56 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 11:56:24 -0400

Of course it was unethical.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Jun 8 at 2016 12:00 PM

Capt Walter Miller — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:00:31 -0400

The AP calling the nomination for Clinton and Obama indicating he would support her as the nominee on the DAY BEFORE the last six major primaries - was contrived, planned for ahead. Of course it was unethical.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jun 8 at 2016 12:18 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:18:41 -0400

Since when did ethics and AP fit in the same sentence?

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Jun 8 at 2016 12:22 PM

TSgt Kenneth Ellis — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:22:16 -0400

No. This was always set up for Hillary. Everyone dropped out so fast it made my head swim. Bernie never got the memo. There was no way that Hillary would loose.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jun 8 at 2016 12:41 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:41:30 -0400

Of course it''s unethical, but what do you expect for the money and support behind Clinton to make sure she get the prize.

Response by SSgt Ryan Sylvester made Jun 8 at 2016 12:44 PM

SSgt Ryan Sylvester — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:44:54 -0400

Given the fact that the DNC has strict rules on primaries and the Superdelegates don't and can't be counted until after the convention in July, yes. It was absolutely unethical for them to declare her the nominee. Presumptive nominee, sure, but she hasn't sealed it by any means yet.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 12:53 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 12:53:46 -0400

Was it in an opinion piece or was it sold as "news"? If OpEd, then no. If "news" then yes. Report the facts.

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Jun 8 at 2016 1:03 PM

PO3 Donald Murphy — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:03:00 -0400

Well legalistically, if it's not unethical that your vote doesn't count (unless you're an electoral college voter) then......?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 1:22 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:22:34 -0400

CW5 Andrew J. Foreman - While everyone seems to be complaining about the candidate . . . the real problem with the AP report was that it discouraged voters who would come out to support Hillary from voting because they felt she had already won . . . which gave Bernie the opportunity to push more of Bernie's base to vote . . . this may have skewed the final result in these six states. No preference on my part . . . just strategically and statistically speaking . . . the results not to be trusted. Warmest Regards, Sandy

Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Jun 8 at 2016 1:35 PM

MSgt Michelle Mondia — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:35:58 -0400

It's like reporting that Al Gore was the new president in 2000. Lol

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Jun 8 at 2016 2:27 PM

CPT Ahmed Faried — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:27:08 -0400

Yes.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 2:38 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:38:20 -0400

It's unethical that she is allowed to run for office at all let alone be declared the winner.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Jun 8 at 2016 3:39 PM

CPT Pedro Meza — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:39:23 -0400

Look back to history Dewey Defeats Truman" was an incorrect banner headline on the front page of the Chicago Daily Tribune on November 3, 1948, so the answer is no it was not unethical.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 4:20 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 16:20:33 -0400

Ethical, media, political - I think one needs a least three paragraphs to link these words. Except when used as in this post they should never be used together until things change.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 8:22 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:22:08 -0400

Why expect anything else from Hillary or the Dems. Now all Sanders has to do is run as an independent and hope tat the FBI throws the cuffs on Hillary, then the Dems will be SOL for this election.......wishful thinking I know, but would be awesome to see.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 2:57 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 14:57:38 -0400

Because impartial, fair, balanced, and truthful CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and CBS have not been since this imaginary black Messiah landed on their collective radar in 2004. She is their new Hydra de Milo!!!

Response by CPO Arthur Garcia made Jun 9 at 2016 3:20 PM

CPO Arthur Garcia — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:20:26 -0400

YES. But it was a moot point, there was no way the party was going to allow anyone else

Response by SPC Gerardo Aguilar made Jun 9 at 2016 4:21 PM

SPC Gerardo Aguilar — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:21:44 -0400

Isn't that like showing up to your promotion board for E-5 with the rank already on? All signs show you will get it, but lets not jump the gun here.

Response by PO3 Sherry Thornburg made Jun 10 at 2016 9:18 AM

PO3 Sherry Thornburg — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:18:59 -0400

More trying to rig the priimaries. any little thing they can manage.