Was all this impossible because it defies the odds it was just due to chance? Or too good to be true? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/was-all-this-impossible-because-it-defies-the-odds-it-was-just-due-to-chance-or-too-good-to-be-true <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Tell me how the terrorist knew that all the war games would be on-going prior to and during 9/11? The four Air Force exercises wherein false radar blips were inserted onto FAA and NORAD radar scopes? How did the terrorists know the best places was in the USA to turn off the transponders so radars could not see them and/or have a great deal of difficulty seeing them on radar scopes without transponders sending signals? How did the alleged terrorist know that other commercial airplanes would be in areas (and/or crossing paths with the jet they were hijacking) such that turning off the transponders prior to crossing, air traffic controllers could get confused. For example, UA 175 turned off its transponder just prior to crossing flight paths with UA93 (with its transponder on) and heading east like UA 175 should have been doing but started to turn around and head to New York City after these airplanes crossing paths. UA 175 was the jet that crashed into the south Twin Tower. How did UA93 know much later to make a U-turn and head back east, just after coming close to Delta Flight 1989,( another flight headed to LA). What are the odds that so many hijacked airplanes make turns near crossing paths with other airplanes? <br /><br />To see this link of a video of what I tried to describe above and to me does not equal it was just due to chance. Especially when we ask the question of how did the alleged terrorist know war games would fog up the air traffic controllers and NORAD radars with a bunch of what they call likely radar blip NOISE or NOT REAL BLIPS due to real airplanes. <br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907">http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907</a><br /><br /><br />How did AA11 know to turn off its transponder after being order by air traffic controllers to turn right 20 degrees so it would not come too close to MD80. How did the alleged terrorist know that MD80 also on a flight to LA would confuse the air traffic controller into thinking AA11 did not turn off its transponder. <br /> <br />AA11 time line<br />*8:14 Last routine radio communication; likely takeover AA11 allegedly made the suspicious radio transmission, but what was said appeared that the hijacker mistakenly intended to use the PA system to talk to the passengers.<br />8:21 Transponder is turned off right next to a primary radar gap, a radar hole <br />8:23 AA attempts to contact the cockpit <br />8:25 Boston Center aware of hijacking <br />8:38 Boston Center notifies NEADS of hijacking <br /><br /> *At 8:41, UA175 radios Air Traffic Control (ATC) to report hearing the AA11 hijackers making a suspicious radio transmission some 30 minute prior at 08:14. What are the odds a pilot would wait 30 minutes after hearing the follow: <br /><br />Alleged hijacker: “We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you&#39;ll be okay .. we are returning to the airport... Nobody move. Everything will be okay. If you try to make any moves, you&#39;ll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet. Nobody move please we are going back to the airport .. don&#39;t try to make any stupid moves.”<br /><br />Did UA175 just warn ATC do to chance or was this done to distract the air traffic controllers because five minutes later (08:46 ) UA175 changes its transponder code. <br /><br /> ~8:47 AA11 crashes into the North Tower.<br /><br /><br />Changing the transponder code is only done just prior to starting to the airplane taking off on is flight to Los Angeles. Doing this in mid-air tells the air traffic controller that someone has INTRUDED into the cockpit. The transponder was still transmitting the altitude and ground speed of UA175. I assume somehow ATC mark on their radar screen “intruder” vs “UA175”. <br /><br />At this time UA93, UA175, and a Midwest Express Flight Seven (MIDEX 7) all three jets crossed in the same time frame over Allentown, NY, but at safe altitudes between them. How did the terrorist know these three jets would possibly confuse the air traffic controller?<br /><br />08:46 to 08:47 UA175 changed it transponder code from to a new setting 3020. <br />08:51 to 08:53 the air traffic controller (ATC) noticed that UA175 changed its transponder code. Another air traffic controller heard him say, “There’s an intruder over Allentown(NY)” crying for help at ATC center.<br /><br />In the space of a few seconds two things happened, AA 11 ceased to exist and UA 175 changed its identity. This is at the same time his controller was looking for AA11, but it had crashed at ~8:47 AA11 crashes into the North Tower. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=47">http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=47</a><br /><br />This is when the alleged hijacker started turning around and rapidly descending toward the World Trade Center from high altitude. Every transponder code is only given to a specific airplane so it can tell air traffic controllers it altitude and ground speed. <br /><br />Why did the Air Force continue the war game (putting false radar blips onto FAA and NORAD radar screens until at least 0930 and/or 1012 hours), given UA175 crashed into the Twin Tower at 0903 hours. Why didn’t the US Air Force Generals tell the 9/11 Commission about all this? <br /><br />These US Air Force war games made it appear there were 22 hijackings on-going using false blips. Given that the CIA or DoD had many intelligence threat warnings that terrorist were planning to hijack airplanes, why didn’t the Air Force cancel it war games on 9/11? According to Susan Lindauer the CIA knew the World Trade Center was one of the likely targets from this intelligence. Why was her good name slandered by DoJ by jailing her in a mental hospital after 9/11? <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/331/988/qrc/lookingglass.jpg?1538972452"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907">9-11: Animation showing military precision of flight paths - Looking Glass News</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"> Untitled Document Team 8+ are a group of independent researchers who have been brought together by a mutual desire to find the real truth behind the 9/11 attacks and other major world events. The graphic below contains some introductory information about plane swapping, please also read &quot;Holes in the Radar&quot; and the other articles on this site for more information. click to enlarge If you are interested in the subject matters on this site,...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:20:53 -0400 Was all this impossible because it defies the odds it was just due to chance? Or too good to be true? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/was-all-this-impossible-because-it-defies-the-odds-it-was-just-due-to-chance-or-too-good-to-be-true <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Tell me how the terrorist knew that all the war games would be on-going prior to and during 9/11? The four Air Force exercises wherein false radar blips were inserted onto FAA and NORAD radar scopes? How did the terrorists know the best places was in the USA to turn off the transponders so radars could not see them and/or have a great deal of difficulty seeing them on radar scopes without transponders sending signals? How did the alleged terrorist know that other commercial airplanes would be in areas (and/or crossing paths with the jet they were hijacking) such that turning off the transponders prior to crossing, air traffic controllers could get confused. For example, UA 175 turned off its transponder just prior to crossing flight paths with UA93 (with its transponder on) and heading east like UA 175 should have been doing but started to turn around and head to New York City after these airplanes crossing paths. UA 175 was the jet that crashed into the south Twin Tower. How did UA93 know much later to make a U-turn and head back east, just after coming close to Delta Flight 1989,( another flight headed to LA). What are the odds that so many hijacked airplanes make turns near crossing paths with other airplanes? <br /><br />To see this link of a video of what I tried to describe above and to me does not equal it was just due to chance. Especially when we ask the question of how did the alleged terrorist know war games would fog up the air traffic controllers and NORAD radars with a bunch of what they call likely radar blip NOISE or NOT REAL BLIPS due to real airplanes. <br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907">http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907</a><br /><br /><br />How did AA11 know to turn off its transponder after being order by air traffic controllers to turn right 20 degrees so it would not come too close to MD80. How did the alleged terrorist know that MD80 also on a flight to LA would confuse the air traffic controller into thinking AA11 did not turn off its transponder. <br /> <br />AA11 time line<br />*8:14 Last routine radio communication; likely takeover AA11 allegedly made the suspicious radio transmission, but what was said appeared that the hijacker mistakenly intended to use the PA system to talk to the passengers.<br />8:21 Transponder is turned off right next to a primary radar gap, a radar hole <br />8:23 AA attempts to contact the cockpit <br />8:25 Boston Center aware of hijacking <br />8:38 Boston Center notifies NEADS of hijacking <br /><br /> *At 8:41, UA175 radios Air Traffic Control (ATC) to report hearing the AA11 hijackers making a suspicious radio transmission some 30 minute prior at 08:14. What are the odds a pilot would wait 30 minutes after hearing the follow: <br /><br />Alleged hijacker: “We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you&#39;ll be okay .. we are returning to the airport... Nobody move. Everything will be okay. If you try to make any moves, you&#39;ll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet. Nobody move please we are going back to the airport .. don&#39;t try to make any stupid moves.”<br /><br />Did UA175 just warn ATC do to chance or was this done to distract the air traffic controllers because five minutes later (08:46 ) UA175 changes its transponder code. <br /><br /> ~8:47 AA11 crashes into the North Tower.<br /><br /><br />Changing the transponder code is only done just prior to starting to the airplane taking off on is flight to Los Angeles. Doing this in mid-air tells the air traffic controller that someone has INTRUDED into the cockpit. The transponder was still transmitting the altitude and ground speed of UA175. I assume somehow ATC mark on their radar screen “intruder” vs “UA175”. <br /><br />At this time UA93, UA175, and a Midwest Express Flight Seven (MIDEX 7) all three jets crossed in the same time frame over Allentown, NY, but at safe altitudes between them. How did the terrorist know these three jets would possibly confuse the air traffic controller?<br /><br />08:46 to 08:47 UA175 changed it transponder code from to a new setting 3020. <br />08:51 to 08:53 the air traffic controller (ATC) noticed that UA175 changed its transponder code. Another air traffic controller heard him say, “There’s an intruder over Allentown(NY)” crying for help at ATC center.<br /><br />In the space of a few seconds two things happened, AA 11 ceased to exist and UA 175 changed its identity. This is at the same time his controller was looking for AA11, but it had crashed at ~8:47 AA11 crashes into the North Tower. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=47">http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=47</a><br /><br />This is when the alleged hijacker started turning around and rapidly descending toward the World Trade Center from high altitude. Every transponder code is only given to a specific airplane so it can tell air traffic controllers it altitude and ground speed. <br /><br />Why did the Air Force continue the war game (putting false radar blips onto FAA and NORAD radar screens until at least 0930 and/or 1012 hours), given UA175 crashed into the Twin Tower at 0903 hours. Why didn’t the US Air Force Generals tell the 9/11 Commission about all this? <br /><br />These US Air Force war games made it appear there were 22 hijackings on-going using false blips. Given that the CIA or DoD had many intelligence threat warnings that terrorist were planning to hijack airplanes, why didn’t the Air Force cancel it war games on 9/11? According to Susan Lindauer the CIA knew the World Trade Center was one of the likely targets from this intelligence. Why was her good name slandered by DoJ by jailing her in a mental hospital after 9/11? <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/331/988/qrc/lookingglass.jpg?1538972452"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3907">9-11: Animation showing military precision of flight paths - Looking Glass News</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"> Untitled Document Team 8+ are a group of independent researchers who have been brought together by a mutual desire to find the real truth behind the 9/11 attacks and other major world events. The graphic below contains some introductory information about plane swapping, please also read &quot;Holes in the Radar&quot; and the other articles on this site for more information. click to enlarge If you are interested in the subject matters on this site,...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CW3 Dick McManus Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:20:53 -0400 2018-10-08T00:20:53-04:00 Response by LTC Stephan Porter made Oct 8 at 2018 12:21 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/was-all-this-impossible-because-it-defies-the-odds-it-was-just-due-to-chance-or-too-good-to-be-true?n=4027268&urlhash=4027268 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Amazing! Great share! LTC Stephan Porter Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:21:42 -0400 2018-10-08T00:21:42-04:00 Response by CW3 Dick McManus made Oct 8 at 2018 12:21 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/was-all-this-impossible-because-it-defies-the-odds-it-was-just-due-to-chance-or-too-good-to-be-true?n=4027269&urlhash=4027269 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just too good to be true<br /><br />Two bags of Mohamed Atta’s luggage were found on 9/11. Inside the luggage the FBI found Abdulaziz al-Omari international driver&#39;s license and passport. Al-Omari allegedly flew to Boston with Atta. Also found in the luggage was Atta’s passport and international driver’s license, correspondence from the university Atta attended in Egypt, a handheld electronic flight computer, a simulator procedures manual for Boeing 757 and 767 aircraft, two videotapes relating to “air tours” of the Boeing 757 and 747 aircraft, a slide-rule flight calculator, a copy of the Koran, a religious cassette tape, airline uniforms, a folding knife, pepper spray, a letter of recommendation,, and “education related documentation.” <br />A former FBI agent and a former federal prosecutor who helped direct the New England investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks told Newsday that more than what the 9/11 Commission report cited, including the names of the hijackers, their assignments and their al-Qaida connections.<br /><br />Former FBI agent Warren Flagg said, &quot;It had all these Arab-language papers …&quot;How do you think the government was able to identify all 19 hijackers almost immediately after the attacks?&quot; &quot;They were identified through those papers in the luggage. And that&#39;s how it was known so soon that al-Qaida was behind the hijackings.” The former federal prosecutor, who declined to be identified publicly, supported Flagg&#39;s account. He said, &quot;These guys left behind a paper trail. They had bank accounts. They rented cars.” <br /><br />Atta&#39;s last will and testament, along with an instruction paper to the other hijackers to prepare themselves physically and spiritually for death, and said, &quot;Check all of your items - your bag, your clothes, knives, your will, your IDs, your passport, your papers. ... Make sure that nobody is following you.&quot; Similar papers were also found in the wreckage of another crashed airliner. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.aviationpros.com/news/10400889/luggage-that-didnt-get-put-on-sept-11-jet-provided-lead-to-terrorists">https://www.aviationpros.com/news/10400889/luggage-that-didnt-get-put-on-sept-11-jet-provided-lead-to-terrorists</a><br /><br />No physical, documentary, or analytical evidence that provides a convincing explanation of why Atta and Al-Omari drove to Portland, Maine, from Boston on the morning of September 10th. I bet ya their trip was done give a reasonable a tail as to why two bags full of evidence point to Al Qaeda were left for the FBI find. <br /><br />If the commuter flight they took from Portland, Maine had been delayed by an hour, Atta and al-Omari would have missed their AA11 connection and screw up the attack on the World Trade Center. As it was they arrived in Boston about an hour prior, therefore how unusual was it that their luggage was not loaded on the flight to Boston? Atta was the only passenger whose luggage didn’t make the flight of the 81 aboard American Flight 11. (Paul Sperry, WorldNetDaily.com, September 11, 2002).<br /><br />“A 9/11 staff statement LIED that it was a tight connection, saying: “The Portland detour almost prevented Atta and Omari from making Flight 11 out of Boston. In fact, the luggage they checked in Portland failed to make it onto the plane” (Staff Statement No. 16, June 16, 2004). When the 9/11 Commission Report appeared the following month, this LIE was missing in it.<br /><br />“Atta and Omari arrived in Boston at 6:45,” added that “American Airlines Flight 11 [was] scheduled to depart at 7:45” (9/11 Commission Report [henceforth 9/11CR], 1-2).<br /><br />An unnamed gate agent at Logan Airport in Boston calls Donald Bennett, the crew chief for flight AA11, and asks him if the two suitcases of a passenger who has just boarded the plane have arrived from US Airways. Bennett replies that the suitcases, which belong to Mohamed Atta, have arrived, but AA11’s baggage compartment has already been locked for departure, so they will not be loaded. American Airlines baggage expediter Philip Depasquale will later claim that bags from US Airways are always late, and so this problem is a common occurrence. <br /><br />The luggage is turned over to Depasquale to have it sent to Los Angeles on another flight. According to Salvatore Misuraca, a ramp service manager stated gate agents do not usually call about a bag unless the passenger that owns it has specifically asked about it, to ensure that their bags have been put on their flight. (see September 11-13, 2001). [FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 9/11/2001; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 9/17/2001; 9/11 COMMISSION, 2/10/2004]<br /><br />So what are the odds an unnamed gate guy makes this unusual call, giving the FBI a heads-up to go looking inside the luggage? <br /><br />Marwan Al-Shehhi’s rental car is discovered at Boston’s Logan Airport containing an Arabic language flight manual, a pass giving access to restricted areas at the airport, documents containing a name on the passenger list of one of the flights, and the names of other suspects. The name of the flight school where Atta and Al-Shehhi studied, Huffman Aviation, is also found in the car. [LOS ANGELES TIMES, 9/13/2001] <br /><br />Two days before 9/11, a hotel owner in Deerfield Beach, Florida, finds a box cutter left in a hotel room used by Marwan Al- Shehhi and two unidentified men. The hotel owner checked a nearby trash and finds a duffel bag containing Boeing 757 manuals, three illustrated martial arts books, an 8-inch stack of East Coast flight maps, a three-ring binder full of handwritten notes, an English-German dictionary, an airplane fuel tester, and a protractor. [MIAMI HERALD, 9/16/2001; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/16/2001]<br /><br />A car owned by and registered to Nawaf Al-Hazmi is found at Washington’s Dulles Airport on September 12th. Inside was found a cashier’s check made out to a flight school in Phoenix, four drawings of the cockpit of a 757 jet, a box cutter-type knife, maps of Washington and New York, a copy of Atta’s letter to the other hijackers, and a page with notes and phone numbers. ARIZONA DAILY STAR, 9/28/2001; COX NEWS SERVICE, 10/21/2001; DIE ZEIT (HAMBURG), 10/1/2002] <br />The alleged 9/11 hijackers Nawaf Al-Hazmi and Khalid Al-Mihdhar drop off two bags at a fundamentalist storefront mosque in Laurel, Maryland. On September 12th.The FBI recovered the bags. The FBI said that the bags contain pilot log books, receipts, and other evidence documenting the brief flight training that Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar underwent in San Diego in early 2000, including the receipts, some mentioning their names. What are the odds that these receipt were kept for over a year and then left them at a mosque to be found. [FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/2001, PP. 273]<br /><br />So the news media is full of stories about evidence that the alleged hijackers were taking flying lessons and had box cutters. News reports broadcast false story about passengers using their cell phones. These fake phone calls are the only evidence about the hijackers having us box cutters and having used pepper spray. The reason we know these were faked cellphone calls is because at some 30,000 feet in the air and flying at about the ground speed of 500 mph, cellphones do not have time to do a hand shake with a cell phone tower on the ground. By the time a hand shake is completed, the airplane has moved and has to again attempt to do another hand shake with the next cellphone tower on the ground. It was therefore, IMPOSSIBLE to make a cellphone call from any hijacked 9/11 airplane. <br /><br />We need a new public Congressional investigation of 9/11. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/331/989/qrc/og_default.jpg?1538972501"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.aviationpros.com/news/10400889/luggage-that-didnt-get-put-on-sept-11-jet-provided-lead-to-terrorists">Luggage that Didn&#39;t Get Put on Sept. 11 Jet Provided Lead to Terrorists</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CW3 Dick McManus Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:21:42 -0400 2018-10-08T00:21:42-04:00 Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Oct 8 at 2018 6:13 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/was-all-this-impossible-because-it-defies-the-odds-it-was-just-due-to-chance-or-too-good-to-be-true?n=4027512&urlhash=4027512 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Excellent share. SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth Mon, 08 Oct 2018 06:13:21 -0400 2018-10-08T06:13:21-04:00 2018-10-08T00:20:53-04:00